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Who came up with this idea? I know, the Devs. How stupid. So now my question is this: is there any DE's on Bloodfin who can sell me an R2 droid with med110/storage/food and crafting that is originally completely red so I don't have to paint it? I paid 26K for the one I bought and 4K for the paint job, but of course wasn't told I would have to repaint every 20 uses. Anyone able to fill this order on Bloodfin please let me know. I will buy a couple in fact, as long as they are originally completely red. Thanks.

Ber im sorry you havent liked the answers but they are acurate

Kamayyk

Master Artisan

DE 4-3-4-4

You're right, I don't like the answers. I pull my droid out a couple times per day, so every 3-4 days I have to get it repainted? This is unacceptable. I don't recall R2 needing a paint job every few scenes in the movies, not that continuity matters to SOE. So I buy the droid, have to repaint it every 3 days, and put new batteries in each day...just isn't worth it to keep droids around. I was intending to get one for each of my guild members, but not anymore. Thanks for everyone's assistance.

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Bergalad wrote:

This is unacceptable.



"Unacceptable" to you or not, it is how it is....sorry.

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So I buy the droid, have to repaint it every 3 days, and put new batteries in each day...just isn't worth it to keep droids around.



First off, no one says you have to paint a droid. You can leave them 'stock' and never have to paint them.....ever. Yes, you do need to put in batteries. The best thing to do is get a crate or two of them. Problem solved.

And...despite what you believe...it's very worthwhile to keep droids around.

You BH's can't do your jobs without them, boss. Sorry.



I was intending to get one for each of my guild members, but not anymore.


Probably easier to let them buy their own, I'm guessing.


Thanks for everyone's assistance.

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/bow

Respectfully,

Bergalad, if you want to have such a crappy attitude, don't both asking questions on this forum. Just look at the post count for Rho - he's one of the most experienced DEs around these boards. If you're not willing to accept the answer of someone with 500+ posts to their name, what will you accept? He's certainly well informed, as are almost all of us here. We've been dealing with this issue for the past 2 weeks, and then the 3months prior to that, so yes, we do have a clue what we're talking about.

Quite simply, the answers are the truth, and your poor attitude to answers that are not in your favour won't get you any favours around here. Customisation does fade, always has, always will. Paint not sticking, that's a pre-patch droid, as the others have stated. 4K for a paint job, you got ripped off. Battery consumption, yes, we know about that. We're not happy either with the rate, and are trying to get it fixed, but not in any short amount of time. It took us a whole week to get the devs to even fix a problem that left the entire profession completely useless (much life Chefs are right now), so don't expect minor issues like battery consumption to be fixed overnight, or even in the next month. Besides, look at Dev Tracker, yet again the Devs are ignoring fixing professions in order to continue working on P0kemon wars....

500 posts means you spend a lot of time on the boards. It does not necessarily mean you spend much time in the game. I am looking, simply, for a real answer. You say the droid in question is pre-patch, someone else said it contained pre-patch components, and someone else here said the droid must be post-patch. Do you see why I am skeptical? I just want to know what I have to do to get my droid to keep it's color, whatever the real answer is. I am not here to be a d1ck, but everyone has basically given me a different answer. I will say it one more time: DE's need to be given love now from SOE. I just want to have an all-red R2 unit...how can I do that without painting it every two days? Thanks.

My post count is high because I spend more time at work than I do at home, and I cannot play games at work.

That being said, I'm going to say this as clearly and simply as I can: There is NO game mechanic in SWG that will allow you to have what you want, even though what you want seems incredibly simple and reasonable. Even though what you want SEEMS to be supported, at least for Advanced droid models, by the fact that we get to customize the color of the chassis which then is used to build a final droid that will be randomly colored every time you pull it out.

I'm sorry, that's just the way it is.

The simple answer is that none of us know the definitive answer. We've been given no guidance by the devs, so we're working this out by ourselves.

You droid randomly changing colour can mean one of many things. In fact all the answers above may well be correct, we really don't know. A random colour change each time you call the droid suggests a droid that was built after the big patch, that's one of the key indicators. If you said it was grey/red all the time, then it means a pre-big-patch droid. If the colour is not sticking, there can be many reasons why. Here's some various reasons. None of them are conclusive. None definitive. These are things that have passed through the boards in the past couple of weeks. You'll need to draw your own conclusions from them, just as we are.

It is possbile that some or all of the components were made before the big patch. I would discount that as being unlikely because I make my probots and R2/R3s with some components from crates made before the patch and they keep their colours.

There are reports that droids made with frames that were produced before their patch but had the final assembly done after the big patch don't hold their colour. They produce random colours like new droids, but don't hold the colour either between store and call.

There was a time between when the big patch landed and we got a proper fix for droid colours that droid frames could be produced (there was a long time where they couldn't at all) and droids made then hold their colour after the 3rd or 4th paint/store/call cycle.

All droids produced after the final patch about a week ago now hold their colour after first being made. Any colour assigned during the construction process is ignored. To colour it the DE needs to use a Droid Customisation Tool, that is available at Novice Level. Only a DE can use this tool. What is available to a Novice is the same as taht available to a Master, so there's no need to seek out a MDE. Novices will probably keep repainting it for a hell of a lot cheaper than the Master will.

Colour is designed to fade, on purpose. We don't know exactly how long that is. Pre big-patch there used to be a Customisation Lifespan readout in the datapad entry. That has now disappeared, but before it had a number counting down from 20. We have no reason to believe that it has changed the number of call/stores.

Rubbing off in 20 call/stores is probably too low, but what that should encourage you to do is keep the droid called as much as possible. Like the movies, droids get kept out in the movies. You don't see them being put into pockets and calling them again. This encourages some degree of realism. Don't want your droid to be scratched and bumped about, don't keep throwing it in the storage compartment.

a droid's painting should not fade, period. Maybe once every 1000 calls out, but definitely not like it is now. Those coloring kits require 2 components, only have like 2-3 charges each, and some droids have two colors to set, so a whole customization unit can go in one droid. For this to last a couple of days is just a pain, and I tell that to all my potential 'customization' customers. I charge 500cr per color but clearly state that it will only last a couple of days. Most people say 'aww that sucks, nevermind then'.

but yelling at us does no good, we are not in control of this the dev are. Our hands are tied.

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Wolfing wrote:
a droid's painting should not fade, period. Maybe once every 1000 calls out, but definitely not like it is now. Those coloring kits require 2 components, only have like 2-3 charges each, and some droids have two colors to set, so a whole customization unit can go in one droid.

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While I disagree that droid coloring should never fade, I do agree that the 20 or so calls is much too low...but I wouldn't go 1000 calls either.

Also, try experimenting on those kits and the components, you should get 5+ charges easily. Heck, the one time I got only 5 was when I failed on an experimentation, usually I get at least 6.

I'm gonna have to agree with wolfing here. Droids should not have this customization fading. Tailored clothes don't fade colors, neither do bio-engineeredpets, or any other thing in the game.People will want their droids recolored every so often. They'll get tired of their same-old colored droid after a while. They'll probably be willing to pay more for it if it was desired, rather than shoved down their throats because their droid's paint just wipes off like it was washable marker.

Gveedo of Bloodfin

I have one customer that wante dto never have to paint his droid EVER agian

r2 /food,chem/medical 110/Item storage 10

I explained to him the ranom process, and any paint will fade after 20 pulls, and how the base color was permanat and uncontrolable by me..

he said fine

my price is 23k for this droid..

he said great.. make me one, I did, he said nope and deleted it, tipped me another 23k.. said make me another please, I did.. he deleted it, paid me 23k more, said try again..

after tipping me 500k,and MANY droids later,I simply said, lets just keep making them for ya dont tip me .. untill we get one ya like, but tell me what colors exactly you want... he said frame this color ish, stripes that colorish.. we made him 36 r2's, and after a brief pause, he tipped me 328k more.. thanked me, and said he would be back for another droid some time..

I thanksed him too, and restocked my house from my storage sheds..

another hapy customer..

another happpy

Gveedo