Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Droid Engineer Issues Designer responses
First off I have just started the DE profession and am not too familiar with all the current issues of this profession. I do intend to progress up the DE trees and hope i can help to make this an exciting and more functional profession. I am also a CH (about 1/3 filled) so I can make some comparisions b/t the CH pets and the totally underpowered combat droids.
I agree w/ everyone that our droids need much more functionality. Everyone in the game should want a droid for certain activities and others should need a droid to perform certain activities. One suggestion that other posters have made is a slicing/hacking droid. If I remember correctly, a Smuggler w/ Slicing I is one of the professions needed to take over a factional HQ. This person should be required to use a slicing/hacking droid. Bio-Engineers could have a driod that can take DNA samples and keep the BE out of danger. Damaged structures should require the use of a repair droid rather than X amount of credits to fix. Surgical droids should be able to heal damage in the wild and during combat. I think in Star Wars Battlefields the surgical droids could actually heal up your troops. Something like them being able to heal X amount of damage per charge and possibly have a timer or something would be good. Several people have giving good suggestions for the protocol droid. I'd like to see using the protocol droid to determine what part on a damaged droid needs to be replaced and other things like this. If languages were harder, that would have been a good function. Perhaps needing a protocol droid to talk to high end quest NPCs would be something cool as well. Tracking droids for CHs and BEs would be great also. The previous suggestions of droids giving skill bonuses and crafting bonuses are good sugesstions too.
Now I am not a master CH but this is what I've learned so far. At Novice CH, it is ridiculous how strong a pet i could get compared to a combat droid. As a side note, i do think it was a mistake to allow everyone now to have a creature pet. It should have been strictly player mounts but that's another thread. Now at Novice CH I had a pet Wrix that had 1500 or 1750 HAM. I'm not sure if that's the strongest pet I could have at that point but it worked for me at that time. I don't know that HAM for the combat droids but you guys can enlighten me and make comparisons. Now after getting Taming I, i think I had pets w/ HAMs from 3000-5000. Add one more skill box Training I, I think, and I now have a 2 pets w/ HAMs of 6500 and 7500. i think the combat droids need to be adjusted to the level of creature pets. Possibly give them 50-75% of a comparable creature HAM but make them 2-3 times harder to kill b/c of armor. just a suggestion. I'd like to see what the current HAMs are for the combat droids if someone could post them or give a link to a thread.
Well that's enough from this newbie DE. I will sacrifice my Grand Wrix in the hopes that it will appease the Devs and encourage them to give us some lovin'.
Laz
There were combat droids in other episodes besides eps 1&2.... IG-88 anyone? But I seriously think that droid engineers should be able to construct things like AT-ST or AT-DTs sometime in the near future... those are basically droids with a pilot anyway.
Another thing, what's with architects being able to build these huge buildings, then carry them in their pocket. You want a use for the binary loader... that's it. Architects should have to have binary loaders to move the buildings and build them. Have binary loaders setup with either constuction arm or lifting arm modules. That's what they should be used for.
oh and another thing make it so there is a chasis of every droid we can make so we can display them mainly this goes for the MSE and the R5 , TREDWELL and D270 these are the lower level droids we should be able to make non functioning display models like we can of most of the higher droids
and my last thing is why the hell do droids have perma death - all throught the movies u see droids get REPAIRED doh it is a mechanical thing and if i can build a droid why the heck cant i fix one , and on that note in the movies u see peeps controling thousands of droids at a time but i can only control one a droid has a challenge rating just like living pet so why cant we have a level limit on what we can control ,,i mean a CH can control 3 pets at once , living unprogrammed things and rasie them from the dead , but i a droid engineer cant reapir my droids and cantcontrolmore then one preprogrammed droid at a time just dont make sense.
hey bag, with that thinking, you would have to empty 99% of your inventory. Because thier is no way in hell you could carry what in your inventory.
I would think about that before you suggest something like that. Not everyone is going to want A Binary load lifter to carry all thier stuff right?
Its just the way Role Playing games have always been.
Ok.. here are a few features that I would like to see ina battle droid...
I would like a droid to be able to have a greater variety of weapons that are either made by the droid engineer or by a weapons smith. It would be great if the they could have multiple weapon slots.
A shield of some type... Since the HAM nerf there are just not enough points.
A recon droid that could show you a given area...maybe even cloaked... Recon droids could also help be a tool to help gather resouces from harvestor, pay maint, etc..
A suicide droid that could deliver a deadly bomb blast to a given region or target....
It does apear that SOE or Lucas Arts or whoever has been seduced by the Darkside and has given into greed and exhibited a lack of integrity and character.
What I mean by this is ..... To rationalize releasing the game for monetary reasons with so many BUGS and with such a poorly thought out profession is ... "NOT" ... what Yoda would have done! ...... Ahh ... but that's real life isn't it. Why wine about such sloppy craftsmanship ... or being so disconnected from the game they don't even know what's in the game and whats not. ... That is the way of life ... the Darkside is stronger ... just go with it ...don't try to fight it .... It's All about just getting your piece of the pie. As big a piece as you can get!!!! Don't wine about integrity or character or .... DOING THE RIGHT THING! .... no ...no ...don't ... just go with the flow ( cackle )
But, it is what the trade federation would have done! It is what the Empire would have done ..... The Empire would actully do things like think of ways of creating Money sinks like incresed vendor fees. Why oh why would they want to FIX THE BUGS in the software. By the time the masses realize it they will be immersed in a world of pain, frustration and sorrow. The Empire will have completely killed any belief in the force. Crushed any and all belief in the outdated worthless values ... of doing the right thing!
DOING THE RIGHT THING has no place in the real world or in SWG. Muhahaha ... The force is no more ....
... cackle ... spfft.. hissssssssssssssssssssss
Note: The above was an intercepted decoded message from 3po to the presidents of SOE and Lucas Arts
You interpret it as you wish ... I interpret as ... they know DE's are broken ... they either don't have the resources (Money, time or skill) to FIX THE BUGS or it's all a part of a master plan to bring more frustration, pain and sorrow into your already miserable lives. A way to currupt the youth of the world ... to let them really know that it is .... after all .... just about MONEY AND Power. To introduce them to the DARKSIDE!
I know I cringe every time I have a customer say " What do you mean there is no way to heal or repair a droid" I realize I too must have been seduced by the darkside by becoming a DE. I know that if i had actully informed the poor customer of this he probably would not have bought the droid and I would not have the money for my harvesters. .... giggle
I wonder how far I have really gone over to the darkside whenever I get ,,, "What do you mean there is no way to get my probot disengaged from a battle with a rogue faamba ..... OMG he died!" But then it all seems humourous when I can hear the rage and anger the customer is expressing at ME .... not soe or lucas arts. .... at ME .. wow I can actually feel the power of the anger and rage wash over me. I drink it in and am replenished. Muahhaaa
Can you imagine the pure joy of hearing a newbie player who has just recieved the brand spanking new Advanced Probot only to have it disapear on him when he, WRONGLY, thinks the release command means disengage the MOB ...something like that which he was used to in Everquest. Oh, how he was enraged, he had spent a week doing missions to earn it. He was almost in tears. Sometimes I think I might have a chance of being released by the Darkside ... I actully made him a new one for free ... I am fighting it .... I might be able to get back to some sense of integrity and character. Hmmm maybe i will join the Rebels and fight the opression of the Empire and re-join the light side of the force ... but that would mean either giving up being a Droid engineer .. or ack .. maybe ... just maybe getting out of this galaxy completely ... Oh I just dont know what to do!!! Oh wow maybe I will just hang out and see if SOE... Lucas Arts could try to influence the youth of the world in a positive fashion ....
Argh ..... ack ... whoa ..... Cringe ... MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!
( brought to you by REBELS for Doing The Right Thing )
Oh by the way Lando Calrisian had an assistant with a cyborg headpiece and Luke skywalker had a cyborg hand ... wouldn't it be fun if droid engineers could make cyborg parts that would have effects like slicer can do to a weapon or armor? That would be neat but of course if the BUGS were FIXEDI could actualy store more than10 items in a droid with 9 lvl 4 item storage modules in it .... It really does say it has a storage capabilityof 64... but alas i can only really store 10 items ...
How about a smuggler droid that could be used only once to see if there is any danger on the route he has chosen for his smugling mission ... how about an assasin droid that can be sent to try to kill a specific person ( ew what neat things you could do with faction there) ... how about a droid that can disengage from a target ... how about fixing a lifter droid so that it can hold more than 10 items .. how about temporary camp turrets ... they could be powerups for camps! ..how about Having Repair modules actully work .. how about having R3's have a decypher module so they can unlock doors .. how about a protocol droid having a module that could decode encoded messages.... I got more ....but i got to go back to the game cuz my factories have probably hung up and my big order for the seeker droids is gonna be late ..... Oh and I think a droid that would service the harvestors .... like go out and get the resources and deliver the maintenance payments and power would be awesome ..You could make them programmable ... you could use waypoints and macro commands to do it. .. hmm just dont do it like all the other droids
I would love to load up my Binary Load lifter with 500 Tons of explosive concentrate and set it off under an AtSt. Let it be a tank torpedo.
Id like to see some sort of melee droid. Tank armor, possibly low hit force.
Flying Drone? Recon? Let us see over the horizon. Would require Master Scout Skill perhaps?
Minefield probe.. disarms minefields.. even if at a very slow pace. Make it with fairly decent front armor but vulnerable from the backside. In this manner, the deployers would have to defend it while it works.
Droid Smart Mines. They lay in wait - under cover. When armor approaches... or a vehicle.. it activates, homes in and hits. Similar to current US underwater mines using Mark 40 torpedos. Speaking of underwater mines.. why not? Make river crossings more interesting.
Harvester Droids.. Binary Load Lifters maybe? They walk to my harvesters.. gather the goods and deliver them to my bank. Never ending route. I would have to walk the route with it once to program.
Survey Droids.. Send to remote planets and let them scout the area - surveying. Give them some basic creature avoidance.. but they can be relatively vulnerable. Set them to survey for certain categories.. i.e., mineral/non-ferrrous/copper. They return peak point waypoints when found.
I guess that's enough for a 5 min brainstorm.. Kinda funny to me that the devs cant think of simple stuff that would be useful as heck.
-- Rikk of TWC (Tarquinas)
I know everyone wants Destroyer Droids - that may be good for Master DE -, However I will be happy just to see normal battle droids and Super Battle droids.
Other droid ideas: IG-88 type: I know there is a huge expanded universe story with this guy (ie. dont flame me), but maybe something similar at least, IG-78s an older modle.
Just a suggestion, but maybe DEs can put a specific weapon with battle droids. Like some droidshave carbines or rifles etc.
Oombi Oumvega of Corbanits
I propose the following:
The Development Team should point out one Dev to grind his way through the Droid Engineer Proffesion - by all means don't just give him a Master Droid Engineer - let him work his way up through the Artisan and Droid Engineer Tree.
Let him grind for a week a so to reach Expert Droid Blueprints only to find that his Probots can't be sold because a tamed Kreetle is so much more powerful.
Make him go to this board on every Droid request he gets, to find out if that exact combination of Droid and Modules he is requested to build actually works. When he finds out that they don't, let him explain that to the customers.
Make him answer hundreds of questions about droids.. If he lies, he'll probably make sales - if he's truthful, hell be poor.
Just make sure that this Dev is expendable - chances are he'll quit his job.
I would like to see "Human Replica Droid GURI" implimented as a Rebel Faction based pet to counter ATST or makeher a Faction based schematic. Follow the link if you have no clue who GURI is. I find she can be made with different modules. Assassin being the best. Consider this please
http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/guri/eu.html
Ok i am a Star Wars geek so i got some droids for you. ( gets out his Guide)
IG-76 Assassain Droid: The model is there for it already as i have screen shot of it
http://www.innercirclepa.com/albums/album02/screenShot0002.sized.jpg
Droideka's : Model and mechanics there just make it buildable and customizable
Trade Federation Battle Droids: Possible low level droid
Dark Trooper Phase I: This is basically the skeleton of a Dark Trooper with a Saber on one arm. From Dark Forces
Viper War Droid: Would love to see this but its too early in the time line. Dark Empire II Comics
Imperial Assualt Droids: Up to their 6th version in the comics so you could make a lesser type. Dark Empire II Comics
Assassian Droids: From the Lucas Art's Shadow of the Empire game
I want to throw in my support for more combat droids. They need to be a viable alternative to creature pets.
I feel like I'm playing Pokemon Galaxies.
And in general...well, you all know what's wrong with DE's and droids. Make it happen.