Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: State of the profession October 29th, 2003

LanFisher
Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:28 am
#131

Welcome to our new friends from the UK. I would suggest to any new players who are considering the DE profession to stick with it. I have faith that these bugs will eventually be fixed. By the time you get all the grinding done to work your way up to Master Droid Engineer, much time will have passed in which many improvements should have to have been made.

If I'm wrong, and no improvements are made over the next few months, well then maybe it will be time to start cancelling subscriptions.

Lan
PickerelRodan
Sat Nov 15, 2003 11:46 am
#132

With the new patch out, I feel the need to voice my displeasure with the status of the Droid Engineer profession.


I am a Master Droid Engineer, making a modest living (mostly due to the fact that wealthy characters want a "cute" or "cool-looking" droid to carry around), but I am very unhappy with DE in relation to some other professions, especially creature handler. Here are my primary concenrs:


1) Master CHs get to have multiple creatures out (2 or 3, I don't remember); Master Droid Engineers get to have 1 like every other player in the game.


2) Mounts are fun, yes. However, CHs already own the game. Why help out a profession that much when it didn't need any help in the first place? At least hold off on introducing mounts until vehicles could be simultaneously introduced. With this patch, the disparity between professions has grown immensely.


3) Right now the best combat droid is a Probot. And it has 820 HAM. And it's attack speed is something like 1.5. And it's damage is something like 45-50. Can you say worthless? Compare the Probot to creatures, and you get a laughable result. For some reason, organic creatures can take more hits and do more damage than a droid. Doesn't that seem completely backwards? Yet, mounts are introduced before better combat droids.


I fail to see why the game has become so biased toward the combat professions and why it has left the crafting professions, with the possible exception of Architect (more buildings to make due to player cities), out inthe cold. The sad thing is, that many DEs in the game, including myself, are ready to dump the profession unless it is fixed promptly.





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Fulkari
Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:25 am
#133

I read all the posts on this forum and the only thing i can see is that devs dont do anything for this profession.


Sintrosi awesome post from and from all that are here .

PickerelRodan
Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:47 am
#134

I am working on Master Merchant to better sell my wares, because mass exposure is the only way to make any money inthis badly flawed profession.


I am also a Master Artisan; being able to make Master Artisan parts makes my DE life much easier.


I also have Scout - Exploration 4 (4/0/0/0); handy when looking for resources in the field (running and masking scent).


I also have Novice Pistoleer (0/0/0/0 - Marksman 0/4/0/0); handy just in case I do get attacked while looking for resources.


Finally, I have Novice Architect 0/0/0/1 so I can make Power Core Units; necessary for building Power Droids.


As I advance in the Merchant tree, I will need to adjust my skills; likely to go first are the Scout skills (unnecessary with mounts), then the Pistoleer and Marksman skills.




Pickerel * MASTER SMUGGLER | MASTER DOCTOR *
REBEL FACTION SALES - 110 cpu
Hong-Kong * DOSH JEDI KNIGHT *
(nnnnnnnnwnn|ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)
AVENGERS OF SHADOW - GHOST
Bramodolus
Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:54 pm
#135

Very good job to all the posters. Everyone has a little bit to add that makes sense.


And like PickerelRodanI am making an ever so small living off selling cute droids to the wealthy.



But here is what I am wondering about:


What profession(s) do all you other DE's have out there?


I myself am a Master Doctor next to being a 1-3-2-3 DE and I dont recommend it. Thinking about dropping it and going for Politician.

Bramodolus
Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:56 pm
#136

obviously I meant:


What other profession(s) do you all have?

Inventer
Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:46 pm
#137

Yeah ! Excellent report, SOE is incosistent with all story, droids have huge role in StarWars, but droid engineer cannot make any but useless ones. Why CH have superpets and actual Probot is not able to even challenge lowest MOBs. Why not allow some inter-profession cooperation - like weaposmiths can make special weapons usable in droids, where are Destroyers, Droid tanks, various droid soldiers??? We have just funny Probots from Empire Strikes Back. Why Repair droid cannot repair - good god. I think plan is: Everybody let is Bounty Hunter, Pistoleer and Tera Kazi and lets go and camp FS NPCs and share Holocrons! An after you have enuf sell it to poor crafters! For 3 mil ! and more ! You will be Jedi - millioner - which is, again very consistent with Jedi philosophy! I like the game but they do everything to make it pure PvP for kids not able to think - just shoot everything and get xp.
Bum Bum Bum I am Jedi.

Seriously I am architect too and that's only source of living in this funny system.

Keretheh Kent
Master Droid Engineer
Master Artisan
1/4/4/4 Architect
Novice Pistoleer
RashnuSWG
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:04 am
#138

I havent really posted much lately. Mostly due to being just frustrated. But something caught my attention that made me want to post. I see a lot of DE's (master or not) pretty much on the verge of dropping the class. Don't do it. Please. The less of us there are, the less they feel they need to fix us. I don't have any words of encouragement because to be honest, there are none to give with the state of this proffession. All I can ask is that you all please stick in there.



Rashnu Botmaker - Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan/Master Merchant - Lowca
Kip1
Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:22 pm
#139

Well I am not a DE. I am a CH and pistoleer. I had no use fo ru guys except getting doids with crafting stations and item mods (only 10 slots though - that sucks). Well I only need one for that. Even with a med mod (or whatever-Im not a DE). But I was excited about storing pets and waypoints in them so I ran out, spent a on of money for the 210 data slots for my waypoints and pets. I had one droid for pets and one for waypoints and crafting stations. I was looking SSSSOOOO forward to having my own personal collection of tamed creatures (like a zoo that I could show to people-or just view myself). Well that got nerfed along with the waypoint storage. Now I have two somewhat useless droids. I then found out about the probot. Got one, woohoo. NERFED!!!! D%&*, S*&$! SO like you, I knew people were gonna turn to creatures of DL 15. Now I have no need for yall really, and Im getting your business by people wanting non CH pets.


Now I think the non-CH pet thing is a GOOD idea (not just because Im a CH). But, yall got kicked in the head when the probots got nerfed. I want my data mod use back. I want to store more pets! What advantage does it give me to have durnies or paralopes in my droid?????? Even if I put maulers or rancors in there, Im still limited in the number I can have out at any one time. Whats the prob with me having them in there???????


This profession has been nerfed into NEAR oblivion. If it wasnt for the crafting stations going into the droids (this allows me to craft in the wild while camped), I would have no need for droids except for holding 10 more items. Remember, I dont have to have those mods in the droid, if Im coming to town to get more missions because my droid no longer holds more waypoints. So I stop and craft when in town getting my next 2 missions.


All I can say is I sympathize with yall. Yall have gotten the short end of the stick on this balancing thing. And why cant we vary the colors of droids? Yall should be able to use like 64 colors or something to individualize the droids. Oh well, just a thought that will NEVER happen because we might enjoy that too much!!!!




My vendors are located at 2716 -5276 just outside of Mos Eisley



Has anyone seen the REAL SWG lately? I miss the game I bought! *sigh*
Ellewen
Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:29 pm
#140

May as well coppy and past for this months SOTP. *sigh*





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RashnuSWG
Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:21 pm
#141

I agree. The parade sounds like a good idea. Two problems though. 1) Lag. we may not even be able to move with that many people around. Both good and bad thing. Would definately get someones attention. 2) Getting people to actually show up. A "protest" was staged before, where we were all suppose to go and create DE's on the test server. I only saw 2 other people there besides me. And one was not a DE but made one there in support of us.


If you can get it set up, and people will actually be there instead of just saying they will, count me in through all the lag it will cause. Hell, I got nothing else to do really since I became master.



P.S. It's just Rashnu. Same name same person in all online games, and not just MMORGs. I forgot what the password originally wasand just created a new login way back in EQ days.




Rashnu Botmaker - Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan/Master Merchant - Lowca
LanFisher
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:31 am
#142

Hey, if we can get enough DE's together to cause some good lag then I would consider that a success. That is the tricky part though; is it possible to get a good portion of the scarce amount of DE's we have to even join in such a March? And would they pay the credits to fly to somewhere on the opposite side of the galaxy just to do it?

It's a chance I'm willing to take. I realize there's a good chance that maybe only five to ten people will show up, but you never know. We might get a good turnout if we spread the word using the message boards and in-game tells, and give everyone a week's notice. I guess the other problem is that there are so many different galaxy servers. There maybe an excellent turnout in one galaxy, while the turnout in another galaxy may be non-existent.

I'll post a separate thread to see if it generates any interest. If no one wants to do it, that's quite understandable.

Lexx
RashnuSWG
Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:32 am
#143






LanFisher wrote:
For the time being, I suppose we will have to accept the fact that if Lucasarts had their way, they would go back and digitally remove all droids from the Star Wars movies in favour of big, beasty pets.

Just think what it would have been like...

Instead of C3P0 and R2D2 we have Stinky the Slice Hound and Fido the Dewback. Her ship coming under attack by the Empire, Princess Leia gives Stinky the stolen plans for the death star before running off. Along comes Fido, insisting that they get to an escape pod so that they can go to Tatooine. Stinky and Fido get aboard the escape pod and blast off towards the desert planet.

"There goes another one," says the gunner on the port-side laser turret.
"Hold your fire," exclaims the deck officer. "There's no life forms on board. It probably just short-circuited." At second glance he says, "Oh, my bad, there -are- life forms aboard. Blast it!"

The gunner blasts the escape pod into oblivion, along with Stinky, Fido and the plans for the death star. The rebels have no attack plan, the death star does a drive-by of Yavin 4 and the Empire quashes all resistance in one fell swoop. All this because the devs want to re-write Star Wars history and do away with droids in favour of furry critters.

Lexx



I couldnt have put it better myself




Rashnu Botmaker - Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan/Master Merchant - Lowca
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