Droid Engineer Archive

R3's are a pain to make, first of all. Second, the TOlium we need we have to compete with other crafting classes for. Third, it has to be good stuff to get a good rating. 4th, to make them in a factory is a rea l ordeal. No one in the game has to deal with the complexity DE do when facotry producing final builds like this. AS may be a kinda close, but still firmly in second place. It takes upward of 7 or more factory runs to make a mere 300 or so droids.

I really dont like making them. I push poeple to the MSE, which get a 250% bonus to det power, and are much easier and faster to make. The R3 Bombs I stock are for those who just wanna see a big boom and dont care that much that they are 60K and up.

Straker_Atrella can answer this best, but as an up and coming Master DE and merchant there are three main reasons:

1) The cheaper droids are not good quality.

a) Good Detonation modules rely on Reactive Tolium gas which is expensive and rare. An R3 uses 6 detonation modules! The 100k droids are the maximum number of damage you could do...or 1 pt shy (59 and the max is 60).

b) The good R3 droid should have max ham and armor. All which need high OQ materials.

2) An R3 is the most complicated droid to make and uses somewhere around 40 components (I may be off but I think this is a good estimate). So it is time consuming process which many factory runs to get the parts in order. For comparison it takes two components to make a swoop. =)

3) Pricing: A droid engineer selling any R3 for 30k makes no sense to me. I'd say the exploding R3 droid is probably the most costly R3 to make. So if you are selling your regular R3s for 60k then you will mark up the exploding ones from there.

Mind you I have yet to make exploding R3s (just the MSEs) given the diffiiculty in making GOOD ones.

This is all my opinion of course..

-kz

Message Edited by Kaasi on 02-07-2005 01:28 PM

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lindalu wrote:

think that the reason they are expensive is the sheer ammount of resources involved plus a R3 adv. can carry six detonation modules, which can result in an explosion thats on average well above 2k, plus the HAM on a maxed R3 allows it to survive its own blast so with a few repair kits, your R3 is ready to explode again.

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They can survive the blast? Im 99.99999% sure that is incorrect regardless of HAM...but there is that .00001% uncertainty

Message Edited by Kaasi on 02-07-2005 01:28 PM

Thanks for the info everyone. I'm confused about the 250% detonation bonus on the MSE though? What does this mean exactly? What are your average MSE dmg outputs in PvP? When I use them, they barely scratch the surface of most jedi, but the R3 does very well.

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Zanex_Tenz wrote:

Thanks for the info everyone. I'm confused about the 250% detonation bonus on the MSE though? What does this mean exactly? What are your average MSE dmg outputs in PvP? When I use them, they barely scratch the surface of most jedi, but the R3 does very well.

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This is how it works, a single detonation module can have max rating at 10.

Thus an R3 droid with room for 6 modules can have a max rating of 60.

Now the advanved MSE droid has room for 2 modules BUT it gives 20 free points for detonation. Thus, with room for 2 modules it has a max rating of 40 with a minimum of 20. That is, if you have 2 modules with 9 det power each the mse droid wil have a rating of 20 + 9 + 9 = 38. The R3 which those exact modules would have 6*9 = 54.

-kz

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Kaasi wrote:

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lindalu wrote:

think that the reason they are expensive is the sheer ammount of resources involved plus a R3 adv. can carry six detonation modules, which can result in an explosion thats on average well above 2k, plus the HAM on a maxed R3 allows it to survive its own blast so with a few repair kits, your R3 is ready to explode again.

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They can survive the blast? Im 99.99999% sure that is incorrect regardless of HAM...but there is that .00001% uncertainty

Message Edited by Kaasi on 02-07-2005 01:28 PM

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Yeah, that's a pretty wild claim. I have never, ever heard of a droid surviving its own explosion, R3 or otherwise. I would not have the repeat customer base for exploding R3s if that were the case.