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Thread: Droid Combat....

xakia
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:03 pm
#1

Was wondering if there is any hope for a Droid Engineer to become more combatant like that of a Creature Handler.


Use of multple droids at once.....Special attack commands....ect.


Mind you, I haven't really played much in 2 years so I'm not sure what DEs can currently do. I've just noticed that some of my droids have "specials:" listed but no specials actually listed..


Been my dream to be Master Bounty Hunter/Master Droid Engineer for roleplaying purposes mainly.


Additionally, it'd beenjoyable to be able to take on Jedi when I want with a crazy template like this and still have the ability to relax and craft droids while up in space in my Nova =)





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Jenden
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:09 pm
#2



xakia wrote:
Was wondering if there is any hope for a Droid Engineer to become more combatant like that of a Creature Handler.
Use of multple droids at once.....Special attack commands....ect.
Mind you, I haven't really played much in 2 years so I'm not sure what DEs can currently do. I've just noticed that some of my droids have "specials:" listed but no specials actually listed..
Been my dream to be Master Bounty Hunter/Master Droid Engineer for roleplaying purposes mainly.
Additionally, it'd be enjoyable to be able to take on Jedi when I want with a crazy template like this and still have the ability to relax and craft droids while up in space in my Nova =)




Very doubtful, as that has been in the past opposite of the destination most DE's would like to see the profession heading towards. The core of the debate is that one profession can't have the best of both worlds, so either we're a full crafting profession, or a gimped crafting/gimped combat profession (and so far the majority of DE's have favored being a full crafting profession).



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xakia
Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:12 am
#3

I don't know...I love my droid. It hits for 75-150 or something like that at a really fast pace and it can take some hits as well. Having 2 out at once would be great. Its not an army of 3...but its more than 1!


Yeah I'm dreaming. This is Sonywars, not starwars.



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Idahe
Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:32 am
#4


Interesting call, telling the DE correspondent that he has overlooked one of your ideas that (to my knowledge) you have never posted before. And an idea that had zero relevance to his previous post at that. Jenden was referring to the fact that most DEs out there would rather have our crafting abilities and finished products improved rather than having our profession transformed into some manner of half-crafter / half-combatant. As correspondent its his job to keep aware of what the DE community wants, pretty sure he's an authority on what DEs are looking for in the way of changes.


DE is a crafting class. We are not fighters. CH get additional pets because they are a pet handling class (the only pet-handling class). Requesting Droid Engineers be granted multiple called droids is equivalent to asking to give Weaponsmiths dual-wield. The fact that we make droids has nothing to do with the ability to call droids.






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Dariane_Kamutsovy
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:21 am
#5






Idahe wrote:


Interesting call, telling the DE correspondent that he has overlooked one of your ideas that (to my knowledge) you have never posted before. And an idea that had zero relevance to his previous post at that. Jenden was referring to the fact that most DEs out there would rather have our crafting abilities and finished products improved rather than having our profession transformed into some manner of half-crafter / half-combatant. As correspondent its his job to keep aware of what the DE community wants, pretty sure he's an authority on what DEs are looking for in the way of changes.


DE is a crafting class. We are not fighters. CH get additional pets because they are a pet handling class (the only pet-handling class). Requesting Droid Engineers be granted multiple called droids is equivalent to asking to give Weaponsmiths dual-wield. The fact that we make droids has nothing to do with the ability to call droids.







1. Then you should spit the forums because I have (and I know several others have to) brought this *IDEA* up times before.


2. Drashk is the current DE correspondant, not Jenden. Jenden did a great job while he was tho, and for that /salute.


And last but not least, I saw Jenden's post as a reasoning why something would not be viable and I proposed/countered the ideas.


As for DE being a crafting class, I agree. However, it can beMADE that a DE cannot have out more then one droid out having a CL>1 (if you can check now if you have/are able to use more then 1, then you can refine this). That would allow a DE to have 2 droids out.


As someone said, this appears to be sony wars, not starwars. The starwars universum I KNOW, you see droids in every corner. Here, you have to SEARCH for them.


For real droid combat, like CH, some extra profession might be needed. Tho i doubt it will ever come, seeing how many professions are broken still.

Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 09-30-2005 05:23 PM

DTQ
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:32 am
#6

What was Droid Commander all about? I see a few people with the title, was just wandering what the proffession actually was? I agree a DE needs to be a crafting class, but I see no problem with a Droid combat class, or even tagging it on to CH, just an ability to be surrounded by an army of real battle droids



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Idahe
Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:40 am
#7






Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:






2. Drashk is the current DE correspondant, not Jenden. Jenden did a great job while he was tho, and for that /salute.





Dude, I'm done responding to anything you ever post... you can't get the simplest of things right. Jenden is the DE Correspondent, Drashk is the TC correspondent. Unless this has changed in the past several hours and their titles and forum information have not updated yet, there really is no reason to get this wrong. Wait, wait... I know, you were under the impression that Drashk was the DE correspondant, so its ok that you werewrong. Grow a clue.

Message Edited by Idahe on 09-30-2005 11:59 AM




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Dariane_Kamutsovy
Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:15 am
#8






Idahe wrote:






Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:






2. Drashk is the current DE correspondant, not Jenden. Jenden did a great job while he was tho, and for that /salute.





Dude, I'm done responding to anything you ever post... you can't get the simplest of things right. Jenden is the DE Correspondent, Drashk is the TC correspondent. Unless this has changed in the past several hours and their titles and forum information have not updated yet, there really is no reason to get this wrong. Wait, wait... I know, you were under the impression that Drashk was the DE correspondant, so its ok that you werewrong. Grow a clue.

Message Edited by Idahe on 09-30-2005 11:59 AM




When I wrote it, Jenden showed on the webpage as a BLUE GLOWIE (if you know what that means).

Hence me deduction. I just checked and he now has the corresp logo in front.


And yes, please refreain from further commenting on my posts if you cannot do anything else but flame.

Buh-bye!

I won't miss it.
DTQ
Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:27 am
#9






Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:






Idahe wrote:






Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:






2. Drashk is the current DE correspondant, not Jenden. Jenden did a great job while he was tho, and for that /salute.





Dude, I'm done responding to anything you ever post... you can't get the simplest of things right. Jenden is the DE Correspondent, Drashk is the TC correspondent. Unless this has changed in the past several hours and their titles and forum information have not updated yet, there really is no reason to get this wrong. Wait, wait... I know, you were under the impression that Drashk was the DE correspondant, so its ok that you werewrong. Grow a clue.

Message Edited by Idahe on 09-30-2005 11:59 AM




When I wrote it, Jenden showed on the webpage as a BLUE GLOWIE (if you know what that means).

Hence me deduction. I just checked and he now has the corresp logo in front.


And yes, please refreain from further commenting on my posts if you cannot do anything else but flame.

Buh-bye!

I won't miss it.






Temporary Forum bugs, gotta hate that.


Idahe, you should know better than posting corrections to people's posts people dont like to be told they are wrong, repeatedly.




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Idahe
Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:35 am
#10

Back to the issue at hand. It would be nice for droids to have expanded capabilities, in combat and otherwise, but giving these abilities to Droid Engineers alone would be a great loss. Instead, it would be more beneficial for everyone involved for the multiple combat classes to have 'droid certifications' allowing them to use specific droid combat modules (with special attacks) and up to a certain CL of droid (this would be assuming that they raised the maximum possible combat level a droid can have.) Give the ability to call multiple droids to professions where the ability would be appropriate (Squad Leader, Commando perhaps...). Doing this would increase the variety of products DEs can make, as well as add a whole new element to each classes gameplay. While most professions would still be limited to one droid at a time, the special attacks would give that one droid far greater upside than is currently found.
If one were to argue that DEs should inherently be able to control more than one droid, by the same logic Bio-Engineers would have to also be able to control multiple pets. Droid Engineer is a crafting class, nothing more, nothing less.




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Vossarian
Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:31 am
#11


I like the idea of droid certs. Ithink that would be a fair way to get more and/or higher level droids in the game.



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KupyiLabe
Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:18 am
#12

I love it when people can't admit they're wrong.

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Dariane_Kamutsovy
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:48 pm
#13






Jenden wrote:





xakia wrote:

Was wondering if there is any hope for a Droid Engineer to become more combatant like that of a Creature Handler.


Use of multple droids at once.....Special attack commands....ect.


Mind you, I haven't really played much in 2 years so I'm not sure what DEs can currently do. I've just noticed that some of my droids have "specials:" listed but no specials actually listed..


Been my dream to be Master Bounty Hunter/Master Droid Engineer for roleplaying purposes mainly.


Additionally, it'd be enjoyable to be able to take on Jedi when I want with a crazy template like this and still have the ability to relax and craft droids while up in space in my Nova =)








Very doubtful, as that has been in the past opposite of the destination most DE's would like to see the profession heading towards. The core of the debate is that one profession can't have the best of both worlds, so either we're a full crafting profession, or a gimped crafting/gimped combat profession (and so far the majority of DE's have favored being a full crafting profession).




I think you overlook a few things here.


Master CH:

-1 Droid (maxCL30)or hireling +up to 3 pets, making a total level of 70 (max 3x23, max 2x35, max 1x70)

- CH = combat class


Everyone (including Master DE):

- 1 Droid (max CL30)or hireling


To make Master DE something, why not add the abilitie for one more droid?

Like:


Master DE:

- 2 droids (2x CL30) or 1 hireling


This makes up and allows for a DE to have a droid out, together with some repair, power droid or something. Nice combo's can be made (yay, droid wars


as I see it, 2xCL30 are still no match for fighting anything, since a full master DE has no high CL themselves (assuming they take a bit of merchant and master artisan). Contrary to CH which also adds up to CL80, CH pets grouped with CH will gain benefits (cl80 mitigation). Droids would only get it if a DE is in a group with a CL80 and have his droid(s) grouped... How many groups out there that welcome DE in a group??? Let alone the droids who are not as effective in battle then any player?


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