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Thread: Does anyone else have to put up with people like this?

Stegalin
Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:06 pm
#1

Last night, late, before I was going to bed I was walking through town. I saw a guy spamming that he wanted a bare bones mouse droid. I sent a tell saying, I could make him one for 1k. The resulting onslaught of insults and accusations are here:


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In all seriousness Isell them at 1k because that's what makes making them worth my while. Let the novices that are grinding them make them for less... after the first few tells that's all he needed, but he kept insulting me, and I kept my composure and attempted to stay nice to him.


any critiuqes? I love how he claims to have masters on other servers, and complains about 1k.




Pima U'ko
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Icarus-6
Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:24 pm
#2

Never gotten that bad, but then I've never argued with anyone that long, either. The closest I ever had was someone who negotiated to buy a droid. I dropped my price down a lot for them (came down about 25% from what I was asking because they were polite while we were negotiating) and started making their droid. While I was doing it they launched into how much I was overcharging them so I started to walk away. They paged and asked where I was going since I hadn't made their droid and I told them I had reconsidered and they needed to find another DE.

They paged me a few times to yell, which I ignored, then offer more credits, which I turned down. There were a few more pages with invectives which I ignored and then they went quiet.

I assume that they were a bit more polite to the next DE they dealt with.




Tallin Rose
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Gorantoth
Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:53 pm
#3

Had something like that when I was making Probots. Guy didn't like the price I was charging and so he decided to spam the area with shouts, saying that he was selling them for 5k less than I was. After about 15 minutes, he gave up and said he was getting it from a friend of his. A couple days later, he came crawling back and agreed to pay my price. But of course, I had black listed him by then and wouldn't sell him the droid for any price. It doesn't pay to be a **edit**.



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Mohi
Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:54 pm
#4

1k is not out of line for a Master produced MSE. As you said, we don't want to kill Novice droid engineer's only sellable item. It isn't worth our time to think about an MSE much less make one.


I have passed on orders of droid storage compartments to novices (unless a high experimentation is desired) simply to help out novices. Hard enough to skill up in this profession without making a dime


The conversation was quite long, I agree, and I doubt I would have taken that long with him. I applaud your patience.




Mohi Sedo -- Kettemor
retired Master Droid Engineer/Master Artisan/Master Shipwright

now a Master Carbineer/Master Doctor and still a Pilot Goof Off
Gorantoth
Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:59 pm
#5

Actually, I simply refuse to build MSE droids. If someone asks for one, I politely explain that I do not make them anymore. And I do this for the same reason some people charge 1k for one... to help the NDEs out with sales.



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- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
r2rknot
Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:03 pm
#6

You are a better man than I, after the first few lines of curssing I would ahve simply told him to 'f' off and ignored him. probably just another non-crafter




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Cynova
Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:06 pm
#7

And he claims to have flown to Theed and purchased a droid with medical module and still beat your price by 500 credits??? Now whos smoking crack. Id like to meet the DE whos selling droids with medical modules and paying for customers airfare to come pick them up.... Last time I flew to Theed Im pretty sure the ticket cost more than 500 credits round trip??
progman63
Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:06 pm
#8

haha...... Why waste your time?


If someone doesn't like my price, they can always go find someone else. Esp if they're a jerk about it.


Like they'd expect me to help them after treating me like that?????



BTW, I always insist on getting special orders by mail so they can't jerk me around on the price. I can just forward the original mail right back at em and shut them up.


Right now I'm waiting for some jerkwad to contact me for an R2 unit he ordered. We did everything using tells, I deliveran ADV unit with morethan he even asked for, just cause I had the chassis laying around and wanted to get it to him quickly (std R2 required socket cluster Prod III???). We 'agreed' on 7k, he comes back with "Wasn't the price we agreed on 6k???"


BS! I'm sick of selling crafting stations, kreetle, and 'basic camp kits'.......


I'm polite, and like helping people that need it, but I'm not putting up with crap when I can't even make any money except selling cheap personal harvesters.









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Kollos
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:09 am
#9

I sold a MSE-ADV to someone who desperately wanted a Mouse with a Food Crafting Station and a L6 Medical Module. I tried to talk her into something better, but she really really wanted a Mouse.


I explained that I charge based on capabilites, not frame, and she said that's what she expected and that she really wanted a mouse. So I charged her my usual rate for a Surgical Droid with the capabilities she wanted and she went away very happy with her new mouse.


I guess if they're willing to pay Master-level prices that I should just shut up and sell to them, but I do always try to steer them to the bazaar for low level items.




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makimus
Sat Oct 11, 2003 5:43 am
#10

you go girl!


hehe jk pima...


but yea, we've all had our fill of the ill tempered customer, who happens to know more than you.




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Jonahm877
Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:23 pm
#11

well, as a new DE 0-0-0-2 I would like to thank the master DE's that are charging more. Grinding through the first 2 boxes of blueprints were mind numbing enough, its good to see that I sold some of them because you master and higher de's were considerate of us lower de's. I will definately do the same thing from now on too just to help those with no blueprint skills. Not to change the subject, I know that most if not all DE's are frusterated with this non-working profession (I got pissed every time I saw a guy soloing the old endor 22k missions) and I stand there for 3 hours trying to find a group in a city with about 50 people in it. But hey, I guess what I'm trying to say is this:


1. yes DE's are broke, but hey I think they are still fun to build


2.I agree with the nerf on mission prices, now all those people who became master CH just for the money are all screwed lol


3.Don't worry our day will come, and you will be able to sell hundreds of droids then!!! (I just hope to become master DE by then)


thanks for reading my rant...


Jae Wook -Eclipse

Eutock
Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:43 pm
#12

Refusing to build MSE's or charging high prices is an implicit way of helping Novice DE's.


If a newbie does ask for an MSE, just give your price (1k, 5k, etc.) and then tell him to lookfor MSE deeds at the bazaar, as they're bound to find one for a few hundred credits. If it's a reasonable player, he'll thank you for the advice and might even remember you for future droid needs.





Eutock of Radiant
July 5th, 2003 - August 4th, 2005

"I am not a droid engineer, but I used to play one in Star Wars Galaxies."

tgtaro
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:38 pm
#13

Once I had this imp who wanted a probot but it wasn't letting me trade with him. So what I did was a I transferred control of the probot to the imp. I told him that since we can't trade he could tip me. **edit** imp didn't tip me and ran away saying "Whatever". I guess I should have known.

BTW I don't make MSE, R5, treadwell, and seeker droids unless someone comes up to me in the middle of nowhere and requests one. I leave those for the novice DE's who are grinding away and just want to make some money. I also offer free training for DEs on my galactic server Naritus.



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