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MonroeThanes

Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:30 pm

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=35955&page=12

above is the link to the thread that TH has responded to on the experimentation changes, please come join this thread and lets see if they will listen to enough of us together. only 12 pages long so far but i know there are alot more crafters out there that do not agree with this new system. please, join us

well see what you get to experiment on with the patch, but youll be using a cripled system to do so

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duncje

Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:33 pm

#2

Man, we are the wrong crafters to be asked this question. We just want experimentation to work, and to have decent stuff to experiment on.

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JavelinCatcher

Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:39 pm

#3

Speaking as one who's been on TestCenter for the last 2 weeks making tons of stuff: I like the new system. It didn't really hit me until a day or so ago about why it was better. Then again, we have worse problems on our hands than experimentation to worry about...

...like actually making a product people will want to buy in the first place

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MonroeThanes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:34 am

#4

this new system is a serrious nerf to crafting profs that use more than one line of experimentation

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MachineZed

Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:42 am

#5

Yeah and thats the thing. It means nothing to us. So we can experiement to make 2 level 3 modules into a level 6. Or we can make 2 unexperimented level 4 modules into a level 6. Or we can make one level 6 module. My point is we don't have one line to experiment on. So why would it hurt us.

And finally we could experiment on the HAMs of droids to get a whopping 3 extra HAM.

PS your going to get the same resoponse from Tailors

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JavelinCatcher

Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:44 am

#6

MonroeThanes wrote:
this new system is a serrious nerf to crafting profs that use more than one line of experimentation

List out your points, you won't get anywhere with just pathos arguments.

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DarthIguana

Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:14 am

#7

I'm in favor of the crafting changes. It will probably slightly lower the average quality of a given item compared to the same item crafted today, but it will create a greater diversity of item stats. In 2 months, everyone will have adjusted to the "new" items and it won't be an issue. In the meantime, our jobs as crafters have become more challenging which is fine with me.

Chris

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Zubulun_Mufasa

Fri Mar 05, 2004 10:43 am

#8

Not me. I like making an item 'evenned' out. A little experimentation here, a little there...

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Barfalomue

Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:56 pm

#9

What is the difference between this and my "Vote for your idea on the 3 most un cared for professions?" This should be deleted too, and all of your posts forum-wide. But, then again, you aren't on the Moderator's SH!T list, so they can discriminate against me because of it I guess.

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MonroeThanes

Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:00 pm

#10

JavelinCatcher wrote:

MonroeThanes wrote:
this new system is a serrious nerf to crafting profs that use more than one line of experimentation

List out your points, you won't get anywhere with just pathos arguments.

if you would please follow the link there is now a 15 page discussion with all the points explained. i know that DEs do not have experimentation now but with your profession's overhaul maybe experimentation is worth messing with, i really dont know enough about the DE profession, but i have been a crafter since day 1, ive been MBE, architect, and have been a weaponsmith since september (none of these were holocron or jedi grinding professions), so i do know how crafting is going to be effected by this. there are many very convincing and valid points to go along with this debate. please join us

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JavelinCatcher

Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:13 pm

#11

MonroeThanes wrote:

if you would please follow the link there is now a 15 page discussion with all the points explained.

Actually, I went ahead and read all 15 pages. I read it once TH started commenting about it. I spent more time reading "This is stupid! why are you trying to nerf crafters?" posts than I actually saw any real information.

MonroeThanes wrote:

i know that DEs do not have experimentation now but with your profession's overhaul maybe experimentation is worth messing with, i really dont know enough about the DE profession, but i have been a crafter since day 1, ive been MBE, architect, and have been a weaponsmith since september (none of these were holocron or jedi grinding professions), so i do know how crafting is going to be effected by this. there are many very convincing and valid points to go along with this debate. please join us

1) Refer to my post above when I said that I have a character on TestCenter, have used the system and like it. All of my Artisan stuff has turned out better. (As a DE, I have to be a Master Artisan as well...due to approx 41 of our schematics requiring MA parts)

2) You don't know how our profession works right now (and how our experimentation is broken except for Droid Storage compartments...which is new since last patch, and the architects complained because they couldn't get "quality compartments" anymore). Anything "new"concerning the values we've been getting via our experimentation has been changing with each new patch on TestCenter (eventhough, nothing is documented about it) Will experimentation be a factor for combat droids? all I can say at this point is yes, but we have no idea what kind of values we're supposed to be getting for anything that it does work for (which is why folks here havn't heard anything new recently concerning values).

3) If there are "many very convincing and valid points" to your argument and you are recruiting us to join your cause, the least you could do is give a small bullet point list (note: I'm not asking you to list all of them) so everyonedoesn'thave to comb through 15 pages....most of which say nothing at all.

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OoseTykia

Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:11 am

#12

Not even then. Just read this forum. Trust me.

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MonroeThanes

Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:53 pm

#13

wow thats alot javelin. your right, and i said earlier that i dont know how DE works, but i know how crafting works and this is a serrious nerf, and im asking for your help because SOE doesnt seem to get the message until its over 30 pages of disagreements

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