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Thread: So what reason do I have to make 80K credit Advanced combat droids?

Gavvot
Fri May 07, 2004 4:40 pm
#1

There is 2 uses for combat droid :

1- tank for you
2- team with you to have better missions when you're in a stage the game just can't make you correct level mission.

Combat droid aren't uber and won't be.
For some reason dev see them as combat pets, so they have to sux like combat pets for non CH.



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psikobunny
Fri May 07, 2004 5:39 pm
#2

I use my probot to improve my mission selection all the time. I find the mission generator to be woefully inadequate (I know its because of the full combat revamp being put on hold). Plus I use the droid as additional DOT.



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aldure
Sat May 08, 2004 12:13 am
#3

Sure, they can have in the mid 4K hams, and 40 resist, but lets face it, the dammage is way to low to be usfell to anyone but a new player, with no elite skills. No use to a crafter, what for, they cant keep up with a speeder to guard them, cant kill nothing much over deseased verlets. I just cant see justfying the resources and cost of making these at all.

All in all, the only one I can make that is usfull is the harvestor droid, rest are just to have, like having a pet Durni.



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Sunfire1
Sat May 08, 2004 12:23 am
#4

First off, its only 20% resist, the 40% the droid says is a bug. Secondly, they are EXTREMELY usefull.


On my 2nd account, I am currently hologrinding though pistoleer. I use an LE repair droid to hold agro for me on Tortur missions. Some of these missions spawn 2 Bull Torturs and 1 Tortur. I can take all 3 down with my pistol (about 5-6 minutes), while my droid tanks for me. I never once have to heal him in the battle. Once the battle is over, sure it takes 4 or 5 Repair Ds to get him back to full, but I never once have to heal him in battle.


In fact, since droids doing damage are just stealing exp from you anyway, I only put 1 combat module in the LE and 2 autorepairs to reduce my need for repair kits.


You fail to see the HUGE boost to droids. Droids have never and never will be pets that can kill a large creature for you. What it can do is take a MASSIVE BEATING while you kill what is attacking it. And with the new HAM levels, they are much better at doing this.


Asteroids
Sat May 08, 2004 12:43 am
#5






Sunfire1 wrote:

First off, its only 20% resist, the 40% the droid says is a bug. Secondly, they are EXTREMELY usefull.


On my 2nd account, I am currently hologrinding though pistoleer. I use an LE repair droid to hold agro for me on Tortur missions. Some of these missions spawn 2 Bull Torturs and 1 Tortur. I can take all 3 down with my pistol (about 5-6 minutes), while my droid tanks for me. I never once have to heal him in the battle. Once the battle is over, sure it takes 4 or 5 Repair Ds to get him back to full, but I never once have to heal him in battle.


In fact, since droids doing damage are just stealing exp from you anyway, I only put 1 combat module in the LE and 2 autorepairs to reduce my need for repair kits.


You fail to see the HUGE boost to droids. Droids have never and never will be pets that can kill a large creature for you. What it can do is take a MASSIVE BEATING while you kill what is attacking it. And with the new HAM levels, they are much better at doing this.







Totally agree, I've sold probably more of my 'Tankbots' than any other model I stock. They hit for peanuts but thats not why people are buying them, 5970 HAM and usable by anyone makes them an ok tank.


I also like to have a probot out and fighting with me while I smack stuff with my hammer and I have one for my DE who has no combat skills at all.


starcraftWS
Sat May 08, 2004 12:54 am
#6

*adds "make some tankbot" to list of things to do tonight*



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Malitevv
Sat May 08, 2004 12:57 am
#7

I agree with the others. They have lots of uses for low and mid-level players.


But let's be clear: they aren't useful to elite combat players. but they aren't suppossed to be (for better or worse). Even an Adv LE maxed out for HAM and filled with auto-repair modules drops almost immediately if you take him to the geonesian dungeon.


I do wish they were a little faster though. The probot should at least be able to keep up with a land speeder. :-)



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AudioOrgana
Sat May 08, 2004 3:53 pm
#8

Because people will buy them?


Reason enough for me...


/counts money


AO


Jenden
Sat May 08, 2004 4:15 pm
#9

Because most people prefer to hunt with something (if nothing else than for the xp bonus) and a lot of people prefer droids to creatures since this is Star Wars, not pokemon. Before the droids didn't look that appealing (though with the 40% medium armor they had they were still better than most of the non-ch pets), now that they look better, people will use them.



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AudioOrgana
Sat May 08, 2004 7:17 pm
#10






Jenden wrote:

Because most people prefer to hunt with something (if nothing else than for the xp bonus) and a lot of people prefer droids to creatures since this is Star Wars, not pokemon. Before the droids didn't look that appealing (though with the 40% medium armor they had they were still better than most of the non-ch pets), now that they look better, people will use them.







It's true.


Doesn't matter how much I try to explain (I gave up, for obvious reasons), there is no denying that a droid with 3200 HAM is exponentially sexier than one with 830, even if theoretically it could take more damage.


Right now, droids are rather powerful. Even 20% across all stats for armor is better than you are going to get for legal non-ch CL-10 pets. I have a bantha with like 3K HAM but it's riddled with vulnerablities.


Damage wise, a Probot now does about the same amount of base damage as a Pre-nerf FWG pistol or a real nice slice on a new one. If kept at ranged and protected, that's a lot of firepower to add to your group.


As tanks, no, none of them are great. I have just begun experimenting with combinations of auto-repair modules and combat modules, but haven't mass produced them yet. I have yet to determine if it's really worth it or not.


However, someone mentioned filling up a LE with nothing but auto-repair modules - to be honest, hadn't thought of that combination. With almost 6K HAM, it might be effective.


The good thing is that while we lost part of the mini-tank client base who discovered how good the armor was back in the 830 days,we gained a lot of new customers who have finally chosen droids over creature pets. And man, those harvesting droids are still flying off the shelves - any bonus to harvest is enough to get many people to really want that droid.


The answer to the original question is really best answered by my previous pithy response - because people want them.


Are you going to solo the Corvette or a Krayt with one? Of course not - but in a group a couple of people with droids can add signifigant firepower and if used effectively can be very rewarding.


AO


Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 05-08-2004 10:19 PM

Shian_Tavkin
Sat May 08, 2004 10:10 pm
#11






AudioOrgana wrote:






Jenden wrote:

Because most people prefer to hunt with something (if nothing else than for the xp bonus) and a lot of people prefer droids to creatures since this is Star Wars, not pokemon. Before the droids didn't look that appealing (though with the 40% medium armor they had they were still better than most of the non-ch pets), now that they look better, people will use them.







It's true.


Doesn't matter how much I try to explain (I gave up, for obvious reasons), there is no denying that a droid with 3200 HAM is exponentially sexier than one with 830, even if theoretically it could take more damage.


Right now, droids are rather powerful. Even 20% across all stats for armor is better than you are going to get for legal non-ch CL-10 pets. I have a bantha with like 3K HAM but it's riddled with vulnerablities.


Damage wise, a Probot now does about the same amount of base damage as a Pre-nerf FWG pistol or a real nice slice on a new one. If kept at ranged and protected, that's a lot of firepower to add to your group.


As tanks, no, none of them are great. I have just begun experimenting with combinations of auto-repair modules and combat modules, but haven't mass produced them yet. I have yet to determine if it's really worth it or not.


However, someone mentioned filling up a LE with nothing but auto-repair modules - to be honest, hadn't thought of that combination. With almost 6K HAM, it might be effective.


The good thing is that while we lost part of the mini-tank client base who discovered how good the armor was back in the 830 days,we gained a lot of new customers who have finally chosen droids over creature pets. And man, those harvesting droids are still flying off the shelves - any bonus to harvest is enough to get many people to really want that droid.


The answer to the original question is really best answered by my previous pithy response - because people want them.


Are you going to solo the Corvette or a Krayt with one? Of course not - but in a group a couple of people with droids can add signifigant firepower and if used effectively can be very rewarding.


AO



Message Edited by AudioOrgana on 05-08-2004 10:19 PM





Thats the key to droid use..several in a group. The more I show people how good they can be..the more I sell. Endor was death for droids once..now with a few players having them (and more importantly learning HOW to use them) they make a lot of difference.


Note to AO..dont fill up a LE with autorepair..cos 1 it cant attack, and 2 it has too few modules..tried it and wept


R3 with 5 of them is a completely different story..it is wonderful ..all that has to be remembered is have LOTS of batteries.


Droids have become tanks again..and its lovely..people are catching on fast



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Skopti
Sun May 09, 2004 1:42 am
#12

I've found making the tank bots invaluable for my BH, I'm skilling up my carbine/pistol and llc trees, and as i run unbuffed most of the time I find these bots incredibly good at holding the aggro while I unload weapons into them. Was using an Adv R3 but switched to an ADV LE with 2 auto repair and 1 combat mod in.
Rorenikibi
Mon May 10, 2004 1:16 pm
#13

As a long time CH who uses his pets to enhance his fighting ability and at the same time being a roleplayer, I definitely see more acceptance of a combat droid than a creature pet.


They just fit the game better.


I discovered this weekend they aren't any more effective at PvP than a comparable creature pet is, but in PvE and the light PvP that comes with RP, they are very effective little sidekicks.






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