Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: Fixing the Price Gap
/bow
Velneth wrote:
And explain to me how a Droid's a nessessity to any profession...
Jjiaah wrote:
If DE were suddenly taken out of the game, only one profession would truely suffer. And that's Bounty hunter.
ssssssssh, don't say that - the jedi may hear you and scream for that to happen...
Capt wrote:
Jjiaah wrote:
If DE were suddenly taken out of the game, only one profession would truely suffer. And that's Bounty hunter.
ssssssssh, don't say that - the jedi may hear you and scream for that to happen...
DOH!
/em gags himself with a tusken sweatsock
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Nice theory...but price controls don't/can't work.
/bow
Respectfully,
I understand all that...but it just doesn't happen that way.
There's never going to be anyway that market price will be 'set' by anything but the market.
Over time, the lot changes (affecting the resource market) will help us...but it will hit everything across the board.
People will have less to spend so we might lose anyway, since people will spend less on things they "need" first. Droids will be optional vis a vis Weapon/Armorsmith products.
I wish it weren't so but there will always be DEs that hurt the vets by dumping cheap stuff on the market. /shrug
/bow
Respectfully,
TheRealTK421 wrote:
Zorkk,
I understand all that...but it just doesn't happen that way.
There's never going to be anyway that market price will be 'set' by anything but the market.
Over time, the lot changes (affecting the resource market) will help us...but it will hit everything across the board.
People will have less to spend so we might lose anyway, since people will spend less on things they "need" first. Droids will be optional vis a vis Weapon/Armorsmith products.
I wish it weren't so but there will always be DEs that hurt the vets by dumping cheap stuff on the market. /shrug
/bow
Respectfully,
So why do we sit and take it?? For the next week it is goign to be my crusade to get ALL the de's on flurry on the same page... i don't care what they wanna sell the FC's for, but for the love of starwars, they WILL start charging 5K/chip, even if i have to buy out 1000 lots at 500/per chip. Sure i'm doing this for me, but I also consider the bigger picture, the struggling novice DE's... the up and comming intermediate DE's.... having a standard price for 1 item in this game is good for ALL of us.
If EVERY de on these boards, can agree with what i'm saying, then start doing something about it on your server. Contact thru email, or tells, every de on your server you know, ever DE's name you can track down, and send them an email like
SUBJECT: DE's must work together!
Hello fellow DE! I've recently been by your shop, and noticed your pricing on the unprogrammed command chips. I'm trying to start a movement on this server to get ALL DE's to have a standard price of 5K for 1 programming chip. this does many things for us, least of which is give us some worthwile profit. it also helps the up and comming novice DE's by giving them a product they can sell on the bazaars, to build up their income for getting to master.
Too long we have been stuck in a pricing by CPU scam, and all it does is hurt us. show me any novice pilot that cannot afford 5K for a command chip. that's a reasonable price for the market, when you figure that players pay 200K for a crate of brandy, or 500K for a suit of armour. Imagine how much ships are going to cost. I ask you to please reconsider your pricing, and let's get these things in-line with what their actual market value is, not "oh, i made 300%, or 700 credits!! at my 5cpu*resources model"
If you agree with this, please give me a shout back to show your suport, and also forward this email to any and all other DE's on our server! We have a great profession, but let's work together on this 1 item to bring some money into it!
yours sincerley,
I'll let you all know how my quest progress'. there's no good reason to price these silly things at *3 or *5 cpu.... i know i should be yelling and ranting/raving at the dev's, but this is what they've given us and i don' t see it changing so i'm pleading with you all to help me, and us, make this profession just a little bit better.
If i fail, I fail so be it. On the plus side, i won't be spending as much time stocking my vendor, nor will i be upset when i see a lvl 4 programburned to a chip for sale for 50K.
actually... if that doesn't work, i think i'll just go and start buying out all the chips i can find.... at 300/chip i can afford to buy em and delete em from my inventory so that the ones on my vendor sell.
Z
Message Edited by psikobunny on 10-25-2004 02:08 PM
psikobunny wrote:
Our stuff doesn't magically become "worth" more just because we want it to be.
This is the reason that decay wouldn't likely affect us in a negative way as much as some might think.
The issue there is that most/many players don't often understand how to get at the value a droid can bring.
/bow
Respectfully,
psikobunny wrote:
DE has never been about making money. I charge what I think is fair, across the board, for new and vet players alike. My prices are for my satisfaction, and based on the discussions I've had with the other DE's on my server, I'm not uncercutting anyone significantly. So basically, my point is, stop lobbing rocks at our house, because you're not happy with the money you're getting. Accept it as the way things are and move on. Charge what you will, advertise heavily, and you can get plenty of money for your droids, because there will always be people in too much of a hurry to shop around. It's your prerogative to take advantage of that, but just remember that's what you're doing, taking advantage of someone.
Our stuff doesn't magically become "worth" more just because we want it to be.
edit- just read all of your most recent post, and honestly I can't think of a more selfish thing to do. I hope Flurry DE's read this thread, ban you from their shops and go on selling for whatever price they like. Free markets rule, price controls and greed suck.
Message Edited by psikobunny on 10-25-2004 02:08 PM
I enjoy being a DE, I help out many novice DE's on my server, i spend almost every minute in game being selling droids, and i LOVE it. But i also like making money, and I'd like to afford the things those combat character can afford. is that wrong of me?? I would hope not. We've been screwed over by the dev's with these new modules being so lame, that i'm trying to make the best of the situation, and charge fair market value for my goods, not fair CPU. fair market value. that FC someone buys for under 1K credits will last then until they delete it. how fair is that to us? it just plain isn't.
In fact, i've been very happy with the money i've made up until this point, and I will continue to do so, I am truely concerened about the state of our profession, in terms of the market economy, and the unfortunate mess that new DE's that have to step into this. it's not like i'm trying to control, or set prices across the board, it's 1 item out of the 10's of different styles and items we can make.
You say i'm taking advantage, I disagree, I'm getting a fair return on a product that a customer wants. your right, they could spend hours shopping and finding a droid that they want, probably for cheaper. Do I feel that these items are worth this much?? 100% i sure do. a scout droid for 100K is a bargain when that scout can then go do 2 hours hunting, get 25% more resources than normal, and sell them to a doc and make their 100K back plus more.... in a couple hours!! there's value for you.
I realize it doesnt' 'magically' become worth more, but If i work hard at it, perhaps I can change peoples perception of the 'worth' of their products to the players, on a scale that's actually in line with rest of the economies prices on the server. And also, it really seems that there's little difference between server economies.
EDIT: that reads a bit hypocritical psikobunny. you highlight the free market economy, but then say "shame on me" for using it to my benefit?? c'mon! give me a break.. which is it? free market, where I can buy anyones goods, and resell them, or do whatever i want with them..... or am i supposed to 'respect' that they wanna sell an item cheap, and let them continue to undercut me..... I know which businessman I am.