Droid Engineer Archive
Thread: R2 and Utility Modules
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KruppeRift
Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:08 am
#1
Any ETA on when our R2's will accept normal modules again.. (I assume it hasn't been fixed since I last checked a few days ago...)
I completed a run of 150 chasis about a day before the "Tin-Can Invasion" and now they are next to useless as I refuse to turn them in to sub-standard combat droids...
I have all the crafting/medical/item/data modules you could shake a stick at and nothnig to put them in..
WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED....Please..
I completed a run of 150 chasis about a day before the "Tin-Can Invasion" and now they are next to useless as I refuse to turn them in to sub-standard combat droids...
I have all the crafting/medical/item/data modules you could shake a stick at and nothnig to put them in..
WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED....Please..
dontlikeloading
Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:34 am
#2
im pretty sure you can still use the data/med/storage modules in the R2s
have you actually tried it yet?
Agisto
Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:22 am
#3
You should have no problems. Just put your data, item...... modules in the combat cluster instead of the general cluster.
I thought this worked fine, am I missing the point!?
_KernMist
Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:01 am
#4
Putting the individual modules in a combat capable clusters works fine. It's the poor suckers like me who did a factory run of general clusters that have wasted stock..
Agisto
Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:08 am
#5
I hear you and to be honest I think that the devs were really unfair on this part! They should officially warn us of such changes (did they?).
DarthIguana
Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:50 am
#6
KruppeRift wrote:
Any ETA on when our R2's will accept normal modules again.. (I assume it hasn't been fixed since I last checked a few days ago...)
I completed a run of 150 chasis about a day before the "Tin-Can Invasion" and now they are next to useless as I refuse to turn them in to sub-standard combat droids...
I have all the crafting/medical/item/data modules you could shake a stick at and nothnig to put them in..
WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED....Please..
They do work and have since Pub 7 went live. Uou must insert the crafting modules into the combat capable socekt cluster and then install that into the R2. This small detail wasn't widely reported prior to the publish being launched but there has been plenty of discussion about it since.
Basically what the devs did was force us to use CCSCs for any module going into a combat capable droid and the standard socket clusters for the others.
Chris
DarthIguana
Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:55 am
#7
Agisto wrote:I hear you and to be honest I think that the devs were really unfair on this part! They should officially warn us of such changes (did they?).
I agree that it sucks and was a surprise to most of us. I haven't been able to determine if the CCSC was a last minute addition or had been there all along. I REALLY wish that the devs would give us an obvious heads up when doing something like that though if only to prevent this like running 150 standard socket clusters only to find out that the path has made them installable in only 2 or 3 droids. Hell, TH went and told weaponsmiths that, if he were them, he'd be stocking up on pre patch 7 guns because of the crafting changes. It would be nice to get a hint and a half like that for us....
Chris
Kollos
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:05 am
#8
Oh, we got that kind of warning... too bad it was a LIE. TH told us to stock up on Probots and Probot chassis because the cost to make them was going to go up, but didn't bother to mention that all of the armor was going to get nerfed into oblivion and so the "old" Probot's 820 HAM would make it USELESS.
DarthIguana wrote:
I agree that it sucks and was a surprise to most of us. I haven't been able to determine if the CCSC was a last minute addition or had been there all along. I REALLY wish that the devs would give us an obvious heads up when doing something like that though if only to prevent this like running 150 standard socket clusters only to find out that the path has made them installable in only 2 or 3 droids. Hell, TH went and told weaponsmiths that, if he were them, he'd be stocking up on pre patch 7 guns because of the crafting changes. It would be nice to get a hint and a half like that for us....
Malitevv
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:20 am
#9
I agree that the change to the clusters was a slap in the face to us all. It'sinconceivable to methat they didn't even document this change in the patch notes (yet they didn't do it). Make a fundamental change in the way that the icon's of this profession are crafted (R-series utility droids) and don't even mention it in the release notes?!?? I was stupified. Shoot, I was still crafting the general socket clusters after the patch hit live, and I read through the release notes and all the information provided on these message boards. Didn't discover I was wasting my time until later in that day when I tried to use them.
I hope that doesn't happen again. I hope its just a reflection of the fact that the code for this profession is so badly mangled that the dev's are privately pulling their hair out of their heads trying to figure out what to do with it and can't help but drop the ball in the process. Because if that's not the reason, then incompetence is the only remaining explanation.
Bearalag
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:22 am
#10
I am a little worried now to waste my time making a bunch of Combat Cluster with Storage/Med/Craft Modules then they are going to change it in next publish.
DarthIguana
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:32 am
#11
Bearalag wrote:I am a little worried now to waste my time making a bunch of Combat Cluster with Storage/Med/Craft Modules then they are going to change it in next publish.
At the moment, I do factory runs as needed. If I need CCSCs with med/item/data, I just decide how many droids I want to produce using them. I won't be back stocking anything like that until after the next publish. I don't want to risk having to toss a bunch of socket clusters of Lv 6 modules.
chris
Neroir
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:09 am
#12
Solution: dont make factory runs for clusters.
I have crates for all the components (lvl 6 medical, storage, crafting sttaions and droid brains) and when I need to build the droid, I craft the required cluster on the spot, it take less than 1min and its safer
Ellesa
I have crates for all the components (lvl 6 medical, storage, crafting sttaions and droid brains) and when I need to build the droid, I craft the required cluster on the spot, it take less than 1min and its safer
Ellesa
Shian_Tavkin
Thu Apr 01, 2004 3:14 am
#13
Kollos wrote:
Oh, we got that kind of warning... too bad it was a LIE. TH told us to stock up on Probots and Probot chassis because the cost to make them was going to go up, but didn't bother to mention that all of the armor was going to get nerfed into oblivion and so the "old" Probot's 820 HAM would make it USELESS.
DarthIguana wrote:
I agree that it sucks and was a surprise to most of us. I haven't been able to determine if the CCSC was a last minute addition or had been there all along. I REALLY wish that the devs would give us an obvious heads up when doing something like that though if only to prevent this like running 150 standard socket clusters only to find out that the path has made them installable in only 2 or 3 droids. Hell, TH went and told weaponsmiths that, if he were them, he'd be stocking up on pre patch 7 guns because of the crafting changes. It would be nice to get a hint and a half like that for us....
Agreed
Of all the lies we have been fed over time, this one was probably the most directly damaging one.
Two lessons to learn:
One, never believe a word TH says about droids, what he knows of them would fit nicely on the back of a postage stamp issued by a Third World country with a paper shortage.
Two, trying to outguess a publish that affects droids is a pure lottery, there are stealth 'fixes' in every publish and it isn't worth the risk.
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