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Thread: Is your CL 30 probot being beaten by low CL mobs ?

Aglardae
Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:38 am
#1

I have a CL 30 probot, crafted after the droid changes. In combat it is often beaten by crappy mobs (low CL). In other situations it can rule. Who has the same problems ?


Note: I never group with it and it is owned by CL 8 mobs very often.


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Jenden
Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:23 am
#2

When its not fighting very effectively what attack noises is it making?



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Betha
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:52 pm
#3

My probot droids are fine.. against even CL 24 Sharnaffs or DIrcats



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Kejid
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:00 pm
#4

My probot (created before the recent publishes) is working just fine.



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JodoKai
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:14 am
#5

If you are lower than CL 30 don't group with your droids. To make sure no one uses them, the Devs have decided to make it so droids drop their level to the lowest person grouped with them.
smg77
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:32 pm
#6

Same thing here...lvl 30 probot was fine last week but this week is getting creamed by lvl 8-12 mobs
Dorelli
Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:35 am
#7


No - i think something weird is going on b/c i have had the same thing happen. My droid got owned by a mutant womp rat whereas last week he was fine. I had just charged his battery for the first time ever and i don't know if that might have had anything to do with it. ie. needing storing after recharging to 'set' it as charged or not - pure speculation here.


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RasalTheWise
Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:51 pm
#8

I did some testing last week with my CL 30 probot (last time I tested was a week after Pub18), and found that it gets two to three good shots in on its target (like around 250) but then damage falls to around 90 on every shot after that. I had to assist it with a CL18 MOB.

Interesting thing was I then pulled out my CL 30 R3, and I did not see any damage degradation when I sent it into battle. It stayed strong against all MOBs I threw it up against.

So in summary, yes, I am seeing an issue with probots.




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JodoKai
Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:21 am
#9

Wow I'm just impressed that people have used probots more than 1 week in a row
Obo_alCan
Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:56 am
#10


Jenden wrote:
When its not fighting very effectively what attack noises is it making?



Very important question here if you are seeing something like this.
Does it make blaster sounds, or that 'other' sound?

Perhaps we should do a mass test and finally hunt down the cause of this, if it's not random.





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RasalTheWise
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:35 am
#11



Obo_alCan wrote:

Jenden wrote:
When its not fighting very effectively what attack noises is it making?



Very important question here if you are seeing something like this.
Does it make blaster sounds, or that 'other' sound?

Perhaps we should do a mass test and finally hunt down the cause of this, if it's not random.


Yeah I keep forgetting to check for that. I'll do so this evening.




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Drashk
Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:11 am
#12

Its not limited to the spitting sounds.


When RD and I were testing out the intial Pub changes, Red-Dwarf noted that the droid would sporadically drop in damage and would take more damage then it should.


It seemed to happen most often when the droid closed for melee combat.







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Obo_alCan
Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:52 am
#13


Drashk wrote:

Its not limited to the spitting sounds.



In my experience (and I always take note of this because it really, really pisses me off ) is that they are tied together.
Every time a droid spits, it is doing lower damage.
Any time a droid is doing lower damage of this type, it is either spitting or making no sound. In the cases where it is making no sound, it is almost always in the first few exchanges of the fight (and so I think those instances are simply a server-client syncing issue with the changing of the droids state, so I don't think that can be counted).



When RD and I were testing out the intial Pub changes, Red-Dwarf noted that the droid would sporadically drop in damage and would take more damage then it should.

It seemed to happen most often when the droid closed for melee combat.





Now that you mentioned this it seemed to ring a bell.
So I went off just now to do some testing. What I found is that the change takes place when the droid and the target close to within 30m of each other, which I assume is where a change in the droids combat state from ranged to melee takes place (this is with the probot).

From the limited testing I have just done, when the two are over 30m apart, the droid always (100% of the time) does max damage (blaster sounds included).
If they are within 30m the droid will always (again 100%) do low damage (with spitting).
If during combat they cross over the 30m limit they it will switch from one state to the other (although I can only see this going from ranged to melee, as I can't get them to move away from each other in combat. all npcs here).

If people could check for this when they see this happening we might be able to confirm it, if this is actually what is happening.

Out of my Probots and R3s on my characters, I can only get it to work with my Probots so far, as the R3 is stuck in melee and can't do ranged right now.
This could perhaps actually be related to changing from the default combat state, which for the probot would be ranged and the astromech melee. I know the probot doesn't have a ranged/melee toggle, but it does have melee behaviours.





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