Droid Engineer Archive

Thread: Sad Sight

JediKnightMark
Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:05 am
#1

Yeah, I just logged on an hour ago and on my home planet (Tatooine) there are a grand total of SEVEN Droid Vendors registered on the planetary map. 7. There's about 30 for housing/harvesters, 20 for clothing, 25 for armor and same for weapons. 7 for DE (including myself and this other guy who also does housing on the same vendor), and I'm the only one in the area surrounding Eisely.





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Haelon's Mercantile, Bounties and Starship Services.
Tatooine 2490 -4860
2-4-1-4 Reality Consultant
Yet another beta wasted
A respec a day keeps the monotony away

Shian_Tavkin
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:24 pm
#2

I'm notquite surewhat the point you are making is here.


Our Correspondant told us that there are roughly 3000 DEs across the various servers. Thats no doubt far less a number than Weap/Armoursmiths etc, but in all truth who can blame that on anything except the state of our profession.


The other point I would make is that I don't register on the planetary map, many of us dont although we could.


But as I said, I'm not clear on what point you are making?





Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
demosthenes810
Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:43 pm
#3

And besides, this number is jumping a heck of a lot really fast, without doubt...I've noticed every five minutes I see another novice DE wandering around ever since they announced the patch. They'll play DE a while, then leave. *shrug* I played this game back when it first came out, plenty of DE's then...left the game for 6 months, come back and almost none...now it'll surge with a boatload of people who don't even know how to make a probot trying to figure it all out so they can cash in on the extra business we'll get with the patches...then they'll disappear after they've raked the money out of our hands. *shrugs* happened to architects with mining, artisans with vehicles, chefs with the new food, BEs with their big change...will happen with us too.


Deric
darknacht
Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:56 pm
#4

Are you crazy man? You don't have much competition...you better get to making droids right now. The lines outside your shop will be huge after the patch.
AudioOrgana
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:12 pm
#5






darknacht wrote:
Are you crazy man? You don't have much competition...you better get to making droids right now. The lines outside your shop will be huge after the patch.







Exactly.


One person's sad sight, another person's golden opportunity.


When I'm looking to place a new shop, first thing I do is go where other DE's aren't.


Audio

Astronaut_jones
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:33 pm
#6

Well I make it a point not to register my vendor unless they have something worth selling.
AudioOrgana
Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:38 pm
#7






Astronaut_jones wrote:
Well I make it a point not to register my vendor unless they have something worth selling.






It's too bad more people didn't subscribe to this theory.


People shouldn't be allowed to have a vendor registered if it doesn't have a minimum of items on it - most of the time when I get to an empty vendor it's not because it's sold out, it's because the person wanted merchant XP and would lure people in to get XP for viewing.


Audio

JediKnightMark
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:43 pm
#8





AudioOrgana wrote:

People shouldn't be allowed to have a vendor registered if it doesn't have a minimum of items on it - most of the time when I get to an empty vendor it's not because it's sold out, it's because the person wanted merchant XP and would lure people in to get XP for viewing.


Audio





Problem with that is that many people, like me, have a vendor that has the shop's name on it that doesn't carry anything, then they have 2-3 other vendors that are categorized into things like "BH Droids" and "Combat droids" and "chassi". It wouldn't make much sense to register any of these vendors, so I just register the "Haelon's Custom and Bounty Hunter Droids" vendor so people know the name of the shop when they look it up.


The only way to make any online game system work is to have human evaluation of in-game situations. Yes, this opens the door to a whole 'nother world of issues which I'll go into thoroughly if asked to, but it's not for this thread. A simple "must have x items listed" rule will lead to three things: 1) honest players being annoyed, 2) exploiters getting around it by making x junk items and constantly relisting them and 3) merchants all over swg simply evolving past the new rule set and coming full circle back to where we already are: listed vendors with nothing (worhwhile) on them.





AudioOrgana wrote:



Exactly.


One person's sad sight, another person's golden opportunity.


When I'm looking to place a new shop, first thing I do is go where other DE's aren't.


Audio




Well, it would be an opportunity if I were in the process of setting up a shop. However, I have had a shop here since a month after release, so it's still a sad sight to me. It's a sad sight because I'd like to see competition. However, there is no competition because there is no demand.


Oftentimes, a lack of competitors isn't an opportunity so much as it's a sign. lol

Message Edited by JediKnightMark on 02-27-2004 11:45 PM



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Haelon's Mercantile, Bounties and Starship Services.
Tatooine 2490 -4860
2-4-1-4 Reality Consultant
Yet another beta wasted
A respec a day keeps the monotony away

Shian_Tavkin
Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:51 pm
#9

Well, embarrasing though it is to admit it....


I have learned a lot from this thread..so thankyou all





Shian -- Master Droid Engineer/ Master Artisan
Malitevv
Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:00 am
#10

I don't think the new comers are coming into the profession for the business benefits. More likely that they are doing it because they want to make what they hope to be cool new combat droids. Yes, some of them will set up vendors and sell them, but you seem to be implying that their purpose is to take away the business of existing DE's. That's very unlikely.



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SiameseFluff
Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:02 am
#11

On Sunrunner I have noticed A LOT of newbies



And I have also runned into a lot of masters who have no clue what to do at all. All they do is wait around for patch 7 now.


Personally, most of my business is by shouting around and people sending me tells while I'm online. And I dont make much money as it is. Of course, I have been taking patch 7 pre-orders...most of my guild is already either signing up for one or will be buying one.


Finally, will actually make money, lol






Ackoen Ini
Master Droid Engineer and Novice Pike
On Sunrunner - Proud Member of the Royal Academy
Leader of the Sunrunner Branch for the Droid Engineer Association
Venders are located at the following: -314m -5636 South of Coronet and on Naboo in Athena Beach's ShuttleMall

Malitevv
Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:19 am
#12

I've got 6 vendors set up by the shuttleport in a player citynot far fromtheed. My vendors names are


  • Decorative Droid Chassis'

  • Utility Droids by Malitevv (registered on map)

  • Combat Droids by Malitevv (registered on map)

  • Arakyds and Seekers (registered on map)

  • Droid Batteries and Other Items

  • Resources and Special Orders

I spread the inventory out amongst these so that everything is easy to find (minimizes the problem that multiple pages will cause some customers to not see some of your inventory). I also label everything consistently so it is easy to see what the functionality of each droid is. I charge relatively low prices (but still turn a nice profit), am only a 4/3/1/4 DE, and keep all the vendors well stocked. I also leave a BLL patrolling the player city I live in that is named: "Droid-Shop-East-of-Shuttle".


I make very good money, and have people regularly buying all kinds of droids and chassis. Word of the shop seems to be spreading amongst some in the BH community also because I've got a gradually increasing list of return customers to the Arakyd vendor; all whom I've never met.


And I only just moved my entire shop from Talus 3 weeks ago.


I made 300k on droid sales between last Saturday and today, but my typical sales are 30k to 50k a day on average.


Anyway, my point is that you can make good money as a DE if you have well stocked and well positioned vendors. Well-stocked is probably most important. Any player who visits your shop and doesn't see a good selection is going to delete the waypoint from his/her datapad and you will never see that player again.




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Lonkley
Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:19 am
#13

what exactly are you presellling for patch 7? there's nothing coming out till patch 8






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