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Thread: I have BAD ATTITUDE

Arcdischarge
Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:53 am
#1

Most folks aren't like this, but enough are to make doctor frustrating.


I was hanging out in Endor with my MasterDoctor title up and some guy named Gera (why should he remain nameless?) asks me to heal up his pet which has ~10k damage. I reply that I charge 1:3 (1 cred = 3 pet damage) and that his pet was 3k. His reply was "with that attitude you will never find a group" and proceeded to let everyone know what an a-hole i was every time he came into town and how much money he was making while I was looking for a group. He didn't use profanity or anything like that but sheesh, even if I needed it pet heals dont give XP.


This was the first thing that happened to me after hitting MasterDoc and I was pretty discouraged, but excuse me Doc is an ELITE profession and I am master of it. Expect to pay for my services up front.


/addignore Gera


Estevan Maturin, Master Doctor / Pistoleer (Ahazi)




Estevan Maturin Master Doctor/Merchant & CEO of |DS| EAS Medical
Ahazi's first +125 med. experimentation crafter
happily retired for the time being
Ahazi's 3rd slowest hologrinder
Lucreel
Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:13 am
#2

People are idiots. Well, not most people, but some anyhow. As you said /addignore idiot is a wonderful thing.


Only problem there is the potential negative advertising that guy is spreading about you, but I think that can be worked through. If you have 10 happy customers for every idiot out there, they will eventually tell him to f*ck off.

jondom
Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:20 am
#3

This is the reason I don't put up my doc title in game. IfI see someone needs healing, I can decide whether or not to offer it andI can avoid random tells of "can you heal me/res me/hold my hand and tell me everything is allright?"- blah blah blah whine whine whine.


Of course, when I offer to heal I don't ask for money in exchange. i hope I'll get tipped but AI don't expect it.So if you are specifically trying to make money using your doc skills (and for some reason, non-doctors don't like this. They seem to think we are their medic slaves) then you are going to have to deal with that exact attitude from patients all of the time. You're not the A-hole for trying to make a few credits, he's the CHEAP A-hole for not being willing to pay for your time/skill/medecines.




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Big_Ears
Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:44 am
#4

Well, he definitely has a bad attitude for not accepting your terms for what they are. Going around flaming you is sheer stupidity. But yeah, this is how half the players seem to be in SWG. Totally clueless.

One thing I want to add, though, is your price seems a bit skewed to me. I sell an 806 heal/56 charge Stim D for around 1500 credits. Assuming it heals 1000 damage per charge on average, you would heal 56000 damage total with this one stimpack. At 3 cr/damage, that's 168000 credits that you'd be charging if you healed only pets. Time is valuable, but it is this valuable? Personally, I'd value the use of the entire pack anywhere from 10k to 50k, but 168k seems a bit overboard.

The flip side of this is, 3k is not a whole lot to one person, especially a guy who can run Lok missions. If it's a one time thing, I think 3k is pretty doable. If someone wants to come to you every day for pet healing, I think it would be fair to lower the price a little.
Big_Ears
Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:09 pm
#5

Well, he definitely has a bad attitude for not accepting your terms for what they are. Going around flaming you is sheer stupidity. But yeah, this is how half the players seem to be in SWG. Totally clueless.

One thing I want to add, though, is your price seems a bit skewed to me. I sell an 806 heal/56 charge Stim D for around 1500 credits. Assuming it heals 1000 damage per charge on average, you would heal 56000 damage total with this one stimpack. At 3 cr/damage, that's 168000 credits that you'd be charging if you healed only pets. Time is valuable, but it is this valuable? Personally, I'd value the use of the entire pack anywhere from 10k to 50k, but 168k seems a bit overboard.

The flip side of this is, 3k is not a whole lot to one person, especially a guy who can run Lok missions. If it's a one time thing, I think 3k is pretty doable. If someone wants to come to you every day for pet healing, I think it would be fair to lower the price a little.
Arcdischarge
Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:46 pm
#6

The 1:3 price I use is based on (1) the value to customer of near-instant healing speed (2) scarcity of this service (esp. with no pet heal XP) (3) scarcity of customers desiring this service and (4) personal desire not to be spammed for heal requests. I think it's a fair price and evenwhen u got XP for pet heals (thus increasing the motivation to provide this service)only about 1 in 10 objected to the price, 9 of 10 pay my rate w/o hesitation since I'm enabling them to continue their rapid income generation.


If I had a steady stream of business for an hour I'd heal all pets 500/ea one after another no matter what the damage.


It doesn'tbother me if someone doesn't like my price, but they could sure say "no thx" or"that'stoo much what about 1k?" or whatever.




Estevan Maturin Master Doctor/Merchant & CEO of |DS| EAS Medical
Ahazi's first +125 med. experimentation crafter
happily retired for the time being
Ahazi's 3rd slowest hologrinder
Voidwalker_Nimue
Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:30 pm
#7

Charge what you feel is fair, and if no one is buying, then maybe you can adjust your prices (assuming you still want to sell). That guy sounds like he has some serious issues. If you don't like the price, go somewhere else ... and whatever other cliches apply


Big_Ears, his price wouldn't be 168k for that pack of stims you used in your example. Your formula seems to be backwards. He says he charges 1 credit per 3 damage, so that same pack would be 18,667 credits, assuming it dished out 56,000 points of healing.


I stopped selling meds on the cheap. I've spent way too much time, and way too many credits getting to Master Doc to short myself in the end. You want your stats buffed? 1cr per point of increase, and I can use lower end packs if you are short on funds. Let's assume I get 2k buffs on all 6 stats (not likely for me on sub-stats), well that's 12k. That would be an extreme example, but how much money could a combat class make in 2 hours or more? I know I could run out and make 12k in about 15 minutes.


Most weaponsmiths (that I've seen) charge up the yin-yang for their services, why shouldnt' Doctors?




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Big_Ears
Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:06 pm
#8

Hehe, I skimmed over that as 3 cr per damage, not 3 damage per cr. Oh well. It's probably because I'm used to reading about 2 or 3 credits per wound. So yah, at 1 cr per 3 damage, it's a lot more reasonable than I first thought.

Anyway, I should point out that I haven't healed anyone except myself/pets for a couple weeks, wounds or damage. I got sick of no tips/few thanks, and I didn't want to be ostracized for charging up front, so I just quit doing it. Unless you do charge a lot, you will never beat doing missions as an elite combat profession. Even running a med shop hasn't come close for me, but I don't sell much with all the competition.

As for buffs, I figure you can charge an arm and a leg, or whatever you want. It's not absolutely necessary, more of a luxury than anything else. Furthermore, the component requirements suck, especially since they nerfed creature harvesting.
Tamour
Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:13 pm
#9

Don't worry about what he said. When I hear someone loudly complaining about something ... I always question their motivation. As my dad always says "Consider the source." Anyone who knows about healing will side with you on that matter anyway.



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