Doctor Archive
Thread: Buffs MUST GO !!!! (2)
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Saborcoco
Fri Sep 24, 2004 4:47 pm
#1
IThink buffs should be limited to a max of500-300 increase in Health,Action, or Mind and maybe a 50-75 on the secondary stats such as Const, Stamina, Focus. And even with this limits it might be unbalanced.
The most oviussolution might be to just take them off completly, however this solution would leave doctors without a specialty on mastery and that has to be filled up with something.
How do you suggest buffs to be modified? or should they be removed?
Naaxin
Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:41 pm
#2
In my opinion buffs should still stay in the game, however, if you were to base doctor buffs the way you base dancer buffs they would balance themselves & get rid of a lot of Min/Max people out there.
The buffs for dancer are based off of you stats you have
A master dancer buffing me with 1000 mind gives a +1000 buff.
But a friend with a 500 mind gets a +500 buff
so all the min/max chr's who have 400 HAM bars would only jump to 800
but a wookie brawler with 1200 HAM would go to 2400 with a similar system. (Advantage non-min/max)
Something similar would work, but if SOE does nothing to reduce the MOB's HAM then it would be pointless. Balance should be about GAME balance, not just player balance.
Trillianna
Master Brawler/Master Fencer/FS
Tempest Server
quitch
Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:17 pm
#3
Saborcoco wrote:
IThink buffs should be limited to a max of500-300 increase in Health,Action, or Mind and maybe a 50-75 on the secondary stats such as Const, Stamina, Focus. And even with this limits it might be unbalanced.
The most oviussolution might be to just take them off completly, however this solution would leave doctors without a specialty on mastery and that has to be filled up with something.
How do you suggest buffs to be modified? or should they be removed?
Are you kidding me? 50-75? God no. That would sux0rs. I would say based on a percentage, like a 200% buff.
TheSidhe
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:42 pm
#4
Naaxin wrote:
In my opinion buffs should still stay in the game, however, if you were to base doctor buffs the way you base dancer buffs they would balance themselves & get rid of a lot of Min/Max people out there.
The buffs for dancer are based off of you stats you have
A master dancer buffing me with 1000 mind gives a +1000 buff.
But a friend with a 500 mind gets a +500 buff
so all the min/max chr's who have 400 HAM bars would only jump to 800
but a wookie brawler with 1200 HAM would go to 2400 with a similar system. (Advantage non-min/max)
Something similar would work, but if SOE does nothing to reduce the MOB's HAM then it would be pointless. Balance should be about GAME balance, not just player balance.
Trillianna
Master Brawler/Master Fencer/FS
Tempest Server
Wow!! And will docs who require far more points to hold master and require very rare and spendy mats have the same ability as a dancer who is only required dance to provide a buff not to mention can buff groups? Maybe we should just take the doc out of the game and let dancers buff all stats. I think Fencer class should be restricted to wearing padded armor and stun damage should be removed as well. Maybe we could nerf it to the point of worthlessness as you suggest happen to the Doc class.
Baleorg
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:37 pm
#5
[farstar]
dont worry. tehy "took care" of the buffproblem.. today and for days iam searchign for good resources, and EVERY planet
has crappy FLORA resources (bug? cant be coincidence that MOST oq/pe ratings are below 20!)
so with those resources you can be happy to hit 1000 :-P
dont worry. tehy "took care" of the buffproblem.. today and for days iam searchign for good resources, and EVERY planet
has crappy FLORA resources (bug? cant be coincidence that MOST oq/pe ratings are below 20!)
so with those resources you can be happy to hit 1000 :-P
fdiskman1492
Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:35 pm
#6
"or Mind and maybe a 50-75 on the secondary stats such as Const, Stamina, Focus.": are you crazy? I couldnt wear Armor, as many others wouldnt be able to either.
"How do you suggest buffs to be modified?" They have been, as the Quality of compoents are random, and therefore currently SUCK.
"or should they be removed?" hey if you dont want a buff then you have that choice, dont ruin the game for others because of what you dont understand.
You must not be a Doc if you dont understand what pains we go through to get these good buffs.
And as you havent said your profession then I assume that you are not, and therefore dont have a CLUE!!!
Ragol
Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:07 pm
#7
"or Mind and maybe a 50-75 on the secondary stats such as Const, Stamina, Focus.": are you crazy? I couldnt wear Armor, as many others wouldnt be able to either.
While I do not agree that buffs be removed, I do think that wearing armor should check base(unmodified?) values and not the current value of the stats. As is, HAM values on armor are meaningless.
Ovakito
Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:23 pm
#8
I agree buffs need to be nerfed a bit but not to 50 for secondaries, that's rediculous. 800 Health and Action 600 to secondaries maybe? I want a little strategy to be incorporated into this game.
Legende
Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:38 pm
#9
Welcome to thread number 176430871 about nerfing buffs. There is nothing here that you can't read in the first 176430870 threads, but here it is anyways.
Buffs are going to be nerfed, that's a pretty easy assumption, but not until Combat Balance and not a day before is my guess. Let the damn horse RIP.
Buffs are going to be nerfed, that's a pretty easy assumption, but not until Combat Balance and not a day before is my guess. Let the damn horse RIP.
Knocky
Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:28 am
#10
ROFL
How many Docs will there be left if the Devs totally gut buffs?
quitch
Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:32 am
#11
Knocky wrote:
ROFL
How many Docs will there be left if the Devs totally gut buffs?
Lol... do you mean if buffs not nerfed... not Devs got buffs?
Marzuk147
Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:01 am
#12
Knocky wrote:ROFLHow many Docs will there be left if the Devs totally gut buffs?
Im guessing almost none. We can heal over 1000 wounds per shot, but guess what, the majority of people dont have over 30. Given that wound healing is what the majority of the doctor profession is aimed at its going to be pretty crappy.
Knocky
Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:41 am
#13
Nope...I meant exactly what I wrote. Marzuk read it correctly.
quitch wrote:
Knocky wrote:
ROFL
How many Docs will there be left if the Devs totally gut buffs?
Lol... do you mean if buffs not nerfed... not Devs got buffs?
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