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Thread: Quality check on ABEC's

Bj0rn
Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:45 am
#1

Hello good ppl, and you who ld killed me 2 days ago.. rrg

Anywas, I've been doc for 6-7 months now, and the buffs I'm crafting are finally taking form..
The one thing that has held them back are the Advanced Biology component.
Are 25power 12 charges decent abec's?

Input from other crafting docters apriciated..

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Marrow1
Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:54 am
#2

There are two schools of thought. Do you like max power or max charges.


If your a 10 point doc and you like max power then I would say our ABEC are top notch.


If your like me and you like to max your charges then I would say you need to reverse the way you exp which depending on the UT of your class 4 may result in a good ABEC or a bad one.






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DFA-FrstbyteOO
Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:58 am
#3



Im the the opinion of max charges then power also. get more uses out of your packs that way. Seeing power is 1:1 ratio you are only sacrificing a few points of power to get significantly more uses out of your pack.


as an example I make ABEC's to 18 power / 23 charges. Those give me 31 uses right off the bat. and Im losing 8 whole power. If I were to go power over charges, I can make a 26 power / 18 charge ABEC, but I would only gain 8 total power and lose 6 entire uses on the pack this way.

Im actually considering playing around with these one of these days to try to make some that are 20/20 and see what that does for me.

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The_Strider_Family
Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:13 pm
#4

I always experiment my ABECs to Charges first. With 12 Power / 22 Charge ABECs the buff packs (as a 10-pointer) always come out to 30 Charges after I have maxed out the Duration/Power lines.



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Bj0rn
Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:55 pm
#5

Thanks for the response. I'm only interested in getting the most power out of my buffs, as i am my own doc.. ill try to make a charge/duration buffpack one time, to see the difference..
DrFizzie
Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:44 pm
#6






Marrow1 wrote:

There are two schools of thought. Do you like max power or max charges.


If your a 10 point doc and you like max power then I would say our ABEC are top notch.


If your like me and you like to max your charges then I would say you need to reverse the way you exp which depending on the UT of your class 4 may result in a good ABEC or a bad one.






Since when do you need class 4 for ABECS and since when does class 4 have UT ?




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Marrow1
Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:59 pm
#7






DrFizzie wrote:





Marrow1 wrote:

There are two schools of thought. Do you like max power or max charges.


If your a 10 point doc and you like max power then I would say our ABEC are top notch.


If your like me and you like to max your charges then I would say you need to reverse the way you exp which depending on the UT of your class 4 may result in a good ABEC or a bad one.






Since when do you need class 4 for ABECS and since when does class 4 have UT ?





Since the time of lack of cafine.... of course I ment tat fiber.





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drmidnight
Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:28 pm
#8

This all depends on the resources you have.. I use tat fiber with an OQ of 975/UT of 724 & lok wild wheat with OQ880/PE464... I can get 23 charges and 17 power out of these resources as a 12 point crafter. It takes a few tries and a couple amazing successes, but that's what I like to use when I'm making my buff packs. If you're hitting 22/17 or 23/18.. you're doing pretty good.



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Rere
Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:45 pm
#9






nerf_you wrote:

PE on lok wild wheat is gated (either 700 or 750 I don't remember), so the max power on an abec is actually 27.





Yeah, I was wondering about this the other day. I've been crafting meds for a bit over 15 months now I never saw Lokian Wild Wheat with a high PE.


If you don't mind me asking, where did you read it that it's gated?





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pircio
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:46 am
#10

well based on the buff calc in the sticky FAQ up there it says my ABEC's should hit 30 power maxed out, idk the charges, i'll try it tonight and let you know



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nerf_you
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:57 am
#11

PE on lok wild wheat is gated (either 700 or 750 I don't remember), so the max power on an abec is actually 27. 26 is the highest I've ever crafted/seen.


While maxing out the abec for charges makes sense, my buffs crafted using an abec maxed for power always sell out first.



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The_Strider_Family
Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:59 am
#12






nerf_you wrote:

PE on lok wild wheat is gated (either 700 or 750 I don't remember), so the max power on an abec is actually 27. 26 is the highest I've ever crafted/seen.


While maxing out the abec for charges makes sense, my buffs crafted using an abec maxed for power always sell out first.







That's the age old story about people wanting the highest of anything of course (and not worrying about charges). I saw this with weapons also where people could have cared less about a gun that was 5 points lower in max damage than a higher one. They would gladly pay double the price of the lower gun just for that tiny little advantage.




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TheRockStar
Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:18 am
#13

As previously stated I'd always go for experimenting on charges so that abec wouldn't be favoured... the only exception would be if I really needed the extra couple of points of power, but I haven't come across such an occasion yet



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