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Thread: I was using a buff set that was giving 2200 to each buff, and then it droped to 2000? What happend?
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Icre
Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:18 pm
#1
I was using a buff set that was giving 2200 to each buff, and then it droped to 2000? What happend? Why did i drop to 200 less I didnt touch anythin gon my character at all?
Bad_Bad_Leroy
Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:24 pm
#2
Bivoli run out?
Changed into non-med clothes?
Wearing med clothes, but they've been damaged down to 0 condition?
Did the person you were buffing have a high Battle Fatigue level?
Message Edited by Bad_Bad_Leroy on 06-21-2004 04:24 PM
Auraveda
Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:37 pm
#3
Something like that happened to me once. I noticed my droid was either out of power or nearly out of power so I put a fresh battery in. The buff numbers jumped back up. I'm not sure if it was a coincidence, or if that was the problem, but it seemed to clear things up.
Cailid010
Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:16 pm
#4
A difference of 200 is about what bivoli would give you so it probably ran out on you.
Icre
Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:02 pm
#5
Im pretty sure they had high battle fatigue, bc I kept getting low buffs here and thier on ppl. I don't know why it doesnt say what I buffed them so I don't go crazy thinking im lying to ppl on the buffs im giving.
Sotaudi
Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:07 pm
#7
I am going to say the problem is almost certainly your droid's battery. You went from 2200 point buffs to 2000 point buffs. That is a change of 200 points. 200 points is 10% of 2000, so whatever changed cost you the ability to boost your buffs by 10%. A 110 medical droid will boost your buffs by 10% (i.e., 110 means that it acts as a 110% environment which works out toa 1.10 multiplier for your buff power). Thus, if you see a 10% drop in your buff power, looking to your droid is a good place to start.
I am going to assume you thought to make sure your droid is called. You seem to indicate that you were buffing one minute at 2200, then suddenly you were buffing at 2000. That means that you did not change environments (see why this would matter below). Therefore, the most likely cause is that your droid battery ran out. When this happens, medical modules (among others) stop functioning. If the medical module is not working, you will lose the 110 medical rating of the droid, and, thus, you will lose 10% power to your buffs. This makes droid power the most likely cause of the problem, and if you recharge your droid, the problem will correct itself.
One caveat: I am assuming you have have not changed environments since it sounds like you were buffing in the same location. However, be aware that the environment can override your droid. If you are in a camp or, I believe, in a Med Center in an NPC city, the medical rating of those environments will override your droid medical rating. Since the drop was only 10% and since most (if not all) camps have a medical rating of less than 100, it is not likely this is from buffing while in a camp. This would have resulted in a drop of greater than 10%. However, an NPC Med Center has a rating of 100, so if that overrides your droid, you would have a drop of 10% even if your droid was out and at full power. (Player buildings do not seem to override the droid, so this is not true of Player Med Centers or other player structures.)
Also, Player cities that have a Medical specialization will grant a 1.10x boost to buffs, resulting in 10% bigger buffs. So if you were in such a player city then went to another city to buffor the city changed its specialization, you would see10% drop in buffs. Since these cities are rare, I am assuming this is not the case either.
The only other thing that would cause this would be a drop of 10 points in your wound treatment. There are no skills in Doctor thatyou can drop which would dropwound treatment by only 10 points which would still allow you to buff, so a 10% drop cannot come from dropping a Doctor sklil. Also, since most bivoli you get is over +20 to wound treatment, it is not likely that you just forgot to take bivoli or that your bivoli ran out. This would result in a drop of 20% or more in your buff strength. The only way for it to relate to bivoli would be that you were using bivoli that was +10 and forgot to take it or it ran out, or you went from using, say, +24 bivoli to using +14, resulting in a 10% drop in buff power. I am guessing these are not the case either.
That leaves as the only other possibility that I can think is that you could have a piece of clothing that has a +10 to wound treatment that you forgot to equip. If you had, say, +10 to wound treatment pair of pants and a +15 to wound treatment shirt, if you equipped the shirt but not the pants, this would result in a drop of 10% in your buffs. Similarly, if you had a shirt that was +25 to wound treatment and equipped a shirt that was +15 instead, this would also result in a 10% loss of buff power.
I cannot think of anything else that could possibly do this.
Sotaudi
Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:10 pm
#8
Cailid010 wrote:
A difference of 200 is about what bivoli would give you so it probably ran out on you.
Bivoli will boost the buff by 1% per point of wound treatment point of the bivoli. The change was 10%, so unless he was using bivoli with only +10, or unless he went from using, say, +24 bivoli to +14 bivoli, it could not have been the bivoli.
Sotaudi
Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:20 pm
#9
Icre wrote:
Im pretty sure they had high battle fatigue, bc I kept getting low buffs here and thier on ppl. I don't know why it doesnt say what I buffed them so I don't go crazy thinking im lying to ppl on the buffs im giving.
From what you are saying, it is not likely that BF had anything to do with it. BF will only affect buffs when it exceeds 249. Even then, there is a specific formula that will determine the buff strength when BF does affect it. In order for your buffs to go from 2200 to 2000 in every case, everyone would have had to have had the same BF, or exactly 341, which would result in a buff of 2000 from normally 2200 buffs. That is highly unlikely.
But also, when BF affects the buffs, you will get a message stating that the buffs are being affected by BF. Since you got no message, BF is not likely the issue.
WarFerret
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:23 pm
#10
You only get the BF message when it's higher than 4 or 500, I've had 250+ BF before and saw my buffs were hitting for less, but never made the connection because I didn't get the BF warning.
st0nedpenguin
Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:14 pm
#11
Well, I just had the exact same thing happen to me.
A few hours ago I was buffing friends and myself for 2100 (non master doc), and now I'm buffing for 1900.
Exact same clothes, droid (fully powered, twice), bivoli and location, and zero BF,to be honest, I haven't got a clue what's going on. 
Darkknt
Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:28 pm
#12
st0nedpenguin are you sure, because it has happened to me, thought I had taken everything and in the rush of things I forgot to take bivoli, which ended up reducing my buff power by 200.
It happens, but if you are 100% sure you have everything then I don't know either
It happens, but if you are 100% sure you have everything then I don't know either
Cailid010
Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:02 am
#13
Sotaudi wrote:
Cailid010 wrote:
A difference of 200 is about what bivoli would give you so it probably ran out on you.
Bivoli will boost the buff by 1% per point of wound treatment point of the bivoli. The change was 10%, so unless he was using bivoli with only +10, or unless he went from using, say, +24 bivoli to +14 bivoli, it could not have been the bivoli.
I've had a few times I would forget to use bivoli when buffing myself and I would get about a 2000 buff. I would then take bivoli and my buffs would jump to about 2200. This was using +24 bivoli.
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