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Thread: How come no Docs in Med center anymore?

TicMoc
Fri May 20, 2005 2:46 pm
#1

I know that you can heal just by sitting in a med center, but it takes forever. Like literally an hour or moreto heal about 400 health wound. I still tip docs on the rare occasion that they show up. But with no docs in med centers anymore, it's not unusual to waste a whole night just looking for someone to heal me. So where are all you Docs and Medics going to get your exp and tips? Where can I find you? I'm on Ahazi but I'm sure this is the case on all servers.
Eskie
Fri May 20, 2005 2:52 pm
#2

Since youre on Ahazi youre better off than players on the smaller servers.

Doctors do not get any xp for healing wounds in med centers anymore, and the number of people that actually tip is pretty low in my experience. I got one tip since CU went live so far, and I usually ninja-heal if I am passing through populated areas and have time on my hands (like getting inspiration buffs, refreshing mission terminals etc.), and in hunting groups I heal all group members.

Furthermore, the Doc profession itself is less attractive than pre-CU, so a lot of docs respeced out of the profession.

Your best bet is to find a hunting group with a Doc, look around Dant MO.



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Mark603
Fri May 20, 2005 2:54 pm
#3



Ticmoc, what rock have you been hiding under?



docs and medics no longer get xp for healing in med centers, and the fact that only 1 out of 5 people tip for wound healing makes it impracticle for us to sit around there, on the off chance someone might need a heal. The reason you will find it harder and harder to find a doc like myself willing to stop whatever they might be doing and healing you is the fact that, frankly, the community doesn't much make it worth it for us anymore. And I'm not complaining about the loss of incomes with the kicker buffs pre-CU, but after spending 15 mins healing someone of 700+ wounds, and not even getting a "thanks doc" for my efforts, makes me a hell of a lot less inclined to do it again. Many players, both noob and vet seem to take us docs for granted. I've had people come up and just say "Heal me!" no please. no thanks, no "Hi Doc, can ya heal me?". They act like they are entitled to have us docs drop whatever else we may be doing at the moment and devote ourselves to them.


Next time you see a doc, even if you have no wounds to heal, thank them for staying with the profession, eh? right now a lot of us are not feeling either appreciated or useful. Sad, isn't it?

Message Edited by Mark603 on 05-20-2005 02:55 PM

TicMoc
Fri May 20, 2005 3:11 pm
#4



Mark603 wrote:

Ticmoc, what rock have you been hiding under?
docs and medics no longer get xp for healing in med centers, and the fact that only 1 out of 5 people tip for wound healing makes it impracticle for us to sit around there, on the off chance someone might need a heal. The reason you will find it harder and harder to find a doc like myself willing to stop whatever they might be doing and healing you is the fact that, frankly, the community doesn't much make it worth it for us anymore. And I'm not complaining about the loss of incomes with the kicker buffs pre-CU, but after spending 15 mins healing someone of 700+ wounds, and not even getting a "thanks doc" for my efforts, makes me a hell of a lot less inclined to do it again. Many players, both noob and vet seem to take us docs for granted. I've had people come up and just say "Heal me!" no please. no thanks, no "Hi Doc, can ya heal me?". They act like they are entitled to have us docs drop whatever else we may be doing at the moment and devote ourselves to them.
Next time you see a doc, even if you have no wounds to heal, thank them for staying with the profession, eh? right now a lot of us are not feeling either appreciated or useful. Sad, isn't it?

Message Edited by Mark603 on 05-20-2005 02:55 PM



Well, sorry I'm not up on all the Doc changes post CU. I knew there were some issues, but I mostly just read the boards for my professions. I can see that people being ungrateful is a turn off for the docs, but like I said, I always tip anyone that heals me. I think I tip pretty well too, and I tip all I can afford when I'm broke. And I always say thanks afterward. Seems like rude players would have been a problem pre-CU as well, as far as tipping goes. I haven't had as many issues with the CU as alot of other people have, but the fact that I am not able to heal my wounds anymore is getting to be a game breaker.
Nuttynoah
Fri May 20, 2005 3:31 pm
#5

hi


im a Master Doctor, lets just say for now that i except the CU and what was take from us (enought said !).


i still am M/Doc i gave up master creature handler that i had from the launch of the game becuase thay nerfed it,now im quite happy to heal players health and wounds weather im in a group or not, if thay tip me thats good if thay don't thats no problem, i do it still with or with out a thaks doc.


what really gets my head wobbling is not being able to heal group members healthbecause the timer takes to long before i can heal more health again...


but the worse head wobble is when you start to heal the groups wounds after the battle (fight) it takes much to long for this timer to complete ready for the next wound heal, in facted its dam rightembarrassing when you have other group members waiting in line...


as for revive and drag player that is a joke at the moment...


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Kryxal
Fri May 20, 2005 4:06 pm
#6


I'm surprised you build up so many wounds ... unless you die and clone uninsured or die in space. You could always just go AFK overnight in a med center with a keep-alive macro. My keep-alive macro used to be my sampling macro, it doesn't matter that some commands don't work anymore.



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Nuttynoah
Fri May 20, 2005 6:09 pm
#7






Kryxal wrote:


I'm surprised you build up so many wounds ... unless you die and clone uninsured or die in space. You could always just go AFK overnight in a med center with a keep-alive macro. My keep-alive macro used to be my sampling macro, it doesn't matter that some commands don't work anymore.






if your referring to me then i did not say i get a lot of wounds, i said healing wounds on group players, or just going up to any single player when i feel like it to heal his/her wounds... i do not care what anyone says, wound healing is to slow.


the soe idea with the CU "well one of them" was to stop docs sitting outside the starport just buffing for hours on end,and get them into group play, which for some ression thay wanted all professions to do, ok thats fine but sitting down for quite a long time trying to heal 1 or more players wounds (wounds NOT health) that are anythink from say 10% to 25% some times more can get very annoying(you could buff quicker ! )..and before anyone writes any pointless replys, like don't heal or give up doc,yes i know but i like doing it, i just wish thay could make it a bit faster thats all im saying..


if your not referring to me then disregard the above


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NO CAPTAIN, I SEE NO SHIPS JUST HARDSHIPS.R.I.P SWG 26/04/2005

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Dapu
Fri May 20, 2005 7:30 pm
#8


If you'd like to see this changed, please see the linked thread in my sig trying to give doctors xp gain back for wound healing so you'll see us back in the med centers again. This isn't just an issue for docs.


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Satch_of_GL
Sat May 21, 2005 5:51 am
#9

As a TKM, I don't worry about wounds; but there are a lot fewer doctors out there right now. Additionally, their wound healing ability isn't much faster than the TKM meditate (with the exception that they can use it on other people). Combine long heal times, inconsiderate people (not paying for services), and the inability to craft their own meds any more - you get to sit around in the med center keeping your connection alive. As time goes on, I hope the devs look into this as the role of doctors was not improved at all. If they go out in a PVE group and heal, they are fresh meat since they aggro everything that is fighting someone they are healing. If they go out in PVP groups, they are fresh meat since they have diminished offensive ability compared to PVP templates and their innate healing is not as good as an average Stim-D. By the way, how many BE's are on your server crafting meds for a reasonable cost (i.e. less than 10cpu on resources)? I know only two on my whole server that are selling at all right now. Doc's definitely need some love from the devs.



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Babafetish
Sat May 21, 2005 6:05 am
#10


I'm a Master Doc on Bria and don't spend much time in med centres because I'm out with hunting groups to get the XP. If I'm passing through a city with some spare time I'll hang out in the med centre, put out a /shout master doc in med centre - healing wounds for free ' ( don't charge for it, although if someone tips that's nice ) - do that for a while then go onto other things. On the odd occasion theres 2 or more docs in the med centre, we sit there chatting away and generally having a laugh.


It does annoy me that there are quite a few players that treat you like a commodity, with the 'come to cantina and heal me' messages. Seems the days of please and thankyou are long gone for some people. It might sound off, but I wont heal people who cant at least be polite.


I had one new guy demanding I heal him, I told him he should try being polite, he said it's your xp youre losing******* , then I politely pointed out that I could heal him all day and not get any xp , and he shut up


The point about creatures aggroing docs is a good one, but some sound advice to the team works well, telling them that if creatures stampede, then I cant heal myself and them. One or two times with half the team lying on the floor incapped because theyve been too eager to fight everything instead of sticking together does the trick. Being tk as well, I can tank ( if thats the right term )pretty well as a doc, heal myself continuously while the fighters do the damage to the creature. It's all about assessing the situation - if you're gonna go near 3 or 4 creatures attacking a team mate, if you heal him/her, expect them to turn on you big time.


I just tell them 'dont get too cloes to the lair, I cant get in there and heal you otherwise I've had it'.


BobaFetish

Master Doc
United Guild

Bria
Eskie
Sat May 21, 2005 6:49 am
#11


Satch_of_GL wrote:
(...) By the way, how many BE's are on your server crafting meds for a reasonable cost (i.e. less than 10cpu on resources)? I know only two on my whole server that are selling at all right now. Doc's definitely need some love from the devs.



The problem is that stim-Ds require herbivore meat (unless you want low-powered ones), and most enhancers either require avian or reptilian meat or a rare resource. Since BEs cannot buy those resources for less than 10 cpu, you cant expect their finished products to cost less than 10 cpu.

Message Edited by Eskie on 05-21-2005 03:49 PM



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12pt Master Doctor - Master Riflewoman
Light Jedi Padawan
-ERI- medical supplies CLOSED

Left to explore new galaxies far, far away
after this galaxy had been enhanced far too much for her taste
Noolaf
Sat May 21, 2005 6:55 am
#12


I seem to be the only Doctor who stays in Coronet Medical Centre on Chimera for more than 5 minutes I'm not complaining, nor do I stay there when I'm paying attention. However while AFK I do run an auto wound healing macro (See the macro thread for a copy.)

Without any xp it fairly pointless, but it makes little difference to me when I'm afk. As for tipping, I get more tips now for healing wounds than I did in the past, the only reason for it is that people are so glad to finally find a Doctor


If you need wound healing (On Chimera at least) your best bet is firstly to join a group with a doctor, second bet head to either Coronet or Bestine Med centres (especially if your imperial.)





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