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Oyzo

Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:45 am

I'm having some problems making buffs. I'm coming out with 864 power. When I use the buff calculator http://www.iootnega.com/doctor/buff2.aspit says the power should be 889.

Here's what I'm using...

ABEC = 22 power / 17 charges

ACRDM = 67

ASDS = 71

Avain = 968 oq 668 pe 672 dr

Reactive = 987 oq 595 dr

12 pt doc

using a 14 crafting tool

and a 35 crafting station (in a friends public house)

in a research city

NO bestine port or cake

I do have a schem for an ABEC 24 power / 14 charges but when with the 22/17 to get more charges. I can't figure out how to push the power up past 864 and the charges only come out to 27. Am I doing something wrong??? How can I push the power and charges up?

OYZO
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Agent001

Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:57 am

#2

did you read the disclaimer on the calculator?

its just an ESTIMATE

there are so many variabilities that there is no way to create an exact calculator

your results sound about right to me

Oyzo

Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:09 am

#3

Thanks for the reply yes I know it's just an estimate. The calculator said the ABEC would come out to 28 and the best power I came out with was 24. I suspect that might be my problem. But there seems to be so many variables it's hard for a newbie to pin point the problem. I see a few post making better buffs (890-900's) with slight inferior subcomponets but slightly better avain/reactive.

Does it matter that I'm not using my own perfect crafting station?

OYZO
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Rere

Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:15 am

#4

Oyzo wrote:

Does it matter that I'm not using my own perfect crafting station?

Nope. Makes no difference in the final result. If you're capping at 864 power when experimenting, that will be as good as it can get, no matter if you're using a perfect station or not.

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Oyzo

Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:23 am

#5

So what can I do to pump up the power and charges?

OYZO
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Rere

Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:45 am

#6

Oyzo wrote:

So what can I do to pump up the power and charges?

For power you need better resources (Gas and Avian Meat). Better subcomponents would also increase a little bit, but not too much (Plus your ASDS and ACRDMs are already really good). And as for charges ...are you experimenting your ABEC on power instead of charges? Because the rate is 1:1 here. Meaning, 1 extra point in power will get you a silly +1 in power in the final product, and 1 extra point in charge would get you another charge. Always experiment your ABEC on charges. And if this is what you've done already, then you probably need a better spawn of Tat fiber and Lok wheat.

Message Edited by Rere on 11-12-2004 06:47 AM

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Therefore, we are saved by hope.
Nothing true or beautiful or good makes complete sense in any immediate context of history;
Therefore, we are saved by faith.
Nothing we do, however virtuous, can be accomplished alone.
Therefore, we are saved by love.
No virtuous act is quite a virtuous from the standpoint of our friend or foe as from our own;
Therefore, we are saved by the final form of love which is forgiveness.

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The_Strider_Family

Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:35 am

#7

Rere wrote:

Oyzo wrote:

So what can I do to pump up the power and charges?

For power you need better resources (Gas and Avian Meat). Better subcomponents would also increase a little bit, but not too much (Plus your ASDS and ACRDMs are already really good). And as for charges ...are you experimenting your ABEC on power instead of charges? Because the rate is 1:1 here. Meaning, 1 extra point in power will get you a silly +1 in power in the final product, and 1 extra point in charge would get you another charge. Always experiment your ABEC on charges. And if this is what you've done already, then you probably need a better spawn of Tat fiber and Lok wheat.

Message Edited by Rere on 11-12-2004 06:47 AM

To add on to that I thought the difference was even smaller than that but made a run of Buffs a while back with 14 Power / 18 Charge ABECs and they came to 26 charges (I am only 10 point doc so couldn't experiment them). I just made my latest run of Buffs using 12 Power / 22 Charge ABECs and they came to 30 Charges so I am stoked.

Stick with experimenting charges fully on the ABECs because the return is far great than experimenting on Power.... Only experiment the Power on them with leftover points.

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Oyzo

Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:25 am

#8

I make 924 power buff with the one of the best avain spawns (tictiaw)! Woot. So now I just need better avain and guess what..... a great spawn just happened... /yay!

OYZO
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pircio

Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:52 am

#9

ABEC's max out at 25/25 i do believe

22power/17charges for an ABEC is really good

i use 18power/17charges

ACRDM = 67

and ASDS = 71 .... just like you

my buffs come out at 894 for 2hrs 54 minutes

i'm a 10pt doctor

when i went from 15 power to 18 power my end product went from 891 to 894, a direct 3, meaning urs should be about 898 or so, with a lower med use or more uses (i'd go with the lower med use)

your avian and reactive gas are whats going to make the BIG difference

yours look really good except for the DR, thats gonna put ur duration down under the 3 hr mark

duration = 60% DR and only 40% OQ

my avian was 995 OQ/ 830 PE / 518 DR

and reactive was 937 OQ / 669 DR

that little extra OQ and PE and DR is what is going to bring your buff over the 900 / 3+ hr mark

don't get me wrong your buffs are good,i would max them out and bring the med use to 90 and sell those, you'll get a lot of sales with that high power for 90 med use.

getting back to your orignal point, those ABECS are fine, really good actually, but you're not going to be able to push it much farther then that. if u got some avian with a 980+ oq, you'll notice a big difference.

Message Edited by pircio on 11-12-2004 03:52 PM

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