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Thread: Mind-Cost and Doc
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Arcadias
Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:37 am
#1
I changed my toon on Farstar to TKM and MDoc on Farstar and noticed:
I dont regen Mind while fighting.
She is a Twi'lek.
I was using Health, Action, Mind and Adrenalin Buff from Doc.
I used Bofa Treat, Blob Candy and Spiced Tea (all around +180 regen, only Tea for mind but I wanted to list everything)
I also used Booster Blue.
I am using a low SAC Blaster-Fist with a SAC-PuP and have around 60 SAC.
So, while fighting I had to heal. (oh really? 
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)To test it I only used Melee-Hit but it still went like this:
48% mind - 49% Mind - 50% Mind - Melee Hit - 48% Mind - 49% Mind - 50% Mind - Melee Hit - ...
After 3-4 Melee-Hits I had about +1% Mind. Thats not really enough. I had to stop attacking completly to regen Mind.
But when I see CMs fighting Jedi (mine or others) they tend to stay at full mind for healing. They only really drop using debuffs/dots.
Question is: Does ranged have less Mind-Cost on attacks or are CMs the "better" healer because they dont run out of mind?
(And no, this is not a Jedi crying for nerfs on CM, this is a Doc asking for help 
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quitch
Sun Aug 21, 2005 9:18 am
#2
nah ive not run out of healing a lot. it has to do with you being on the offensive a lot.
my SAC on my ph is 62, so that lets me stay attacking for a lot. the more they heal, the better.
the foods i use are vercupti (i think... +400 health, 200 action, 200 mind), crispic, booster blue, blob candy, and i am going to add aitha in there.
i think it matters if you can take the damage and also stay on the offensive, making them heal
Zimal
Sun Aug 21, 2005 11:16 am
#3
wait so you arn't healing? and loosing mind?
that makes no sence...
-edit-
Ok it says you were healing... but since when does "Melee Hit" drain mind? it doesn't... so you must have been doing something to drain mind in there... and you said 4-5 melee hits at 50% mind... that's about 4-5 heals before mind is dead...
also on your not a nerf cm plea... this is kinda the doc forums so would be a nerf doc plea 
Message Edited by Zimal on 08-21-2005 11:18 AM
quitch
Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:16 pm
#4
i was healing but with my foods combo my mind stayed full is what i am saying, and our heals are better than a CM's to start with.
Zimal wrote:
wait so you arn't healing? and loosing mind? reverse that... i am healing but i still have full mind
that makes no sence...
-edit-
Ok it says you were healing... but since when does "Melee Hit" drain mind not really but it drains 1% of mind which regens pretty fast.? it doesn't... so you must have been doing something to drain mind in there... and you said 4-5 melee hits at 50% mind... that's about 4-5 heals before mind is dead... i can get more than 5 heals with 50% mind
also on your not a nerf cm plea... this is kinda the doc forums so would be a nerf doc plea
Message Edited by Zimal on 08-21-2005 11:18 AM
quitch
Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:17 pm
#5
Zimal wrote:
wait so you arn't healing? and loosing mind?
that makes no sence...
-edit-
Ok it says you were healing... but since when does "Melee Hit" drain mind? it doesn't... so you must have been doing something to drain mind in there... and you said 4-5 melee hits at 50% mind... that's about 4-5 heals before mind is dead...
also on your not a nerf cm plea... this is kinda the doc forums so would be a nerf doc plea
Message Edited by Zimal on 08-21-2005 11:18 AM
i just reread my post, and i never said that. i said it helps if you are on the offensive and force them to heal a lot, and you will most likely win. also, if you stay on the offensive, you will have to heal less often, conserving mind
Message Edited by quitch on 08-21-2005 05:17 PM
Zimal
Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:27 pm
#6
you do realize i was responding completly to the orignal posters post and not yours right?
but eh if you feel you need to tear apart my post thinking it was in response to something you said go for it 
quitch
Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:16 pm
#7
Zimal wrote:
you do realize i was responding completly to the orignal posters post and not yours right?
but eh if you feel you need to tear apart my post thinking it was in response to something you said go for it
o_O didnt realize... usually helps to quote though
Zimal
Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:43 pm
#8
Zimal wrote:
also on your not a nerf cm plea... this is kinda the doc forums so would be a nerf doc plea
thought this was enough to give it away
Morathai
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:06 am
#9
I have this same problem with my twilek tkm/mdoc.
From all ive gathered it has something to do with the phantom race stats.
I read that twileks now have crap for mind regen but have a higher action regen. (notice how races have different health numbers for cl80) we are no longer the equals they tried to make us with the cu.
Me and my friend dueled just for fun bare handed no buffs. I just used heals here and there and was out of mind in roughly 4-6 minutes while her zabrak tkm mswords with medic was completely full on mind.
And using any weapon i allways lose my regened mind points when i melee hit.
Though my human female can run ranged shot and spam bacta shot (medic only) all day long without having major mind problem.
Arcadias
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:47 am
#10
Morathai wrote:
I have this same problem with my twilek tkm/mdoc.
From all ive gathered it has something to do with the phantom race stats.
I read that twileks now have crap for mind regen but have a higher action regen. (notice how races have different health numbers for cl80) we are no longer the equals they tried to make us with the cu.
Me and my friend dueled just for fun bare handed no buffs. I just used heals here and there and was out of mind in roughly 4-6 minutes while her zabrak tkm mswords with medic was completely full on mind.
And using any weapon i allways lose my regened mind points when i melee hit.
Though my human female can run ranged shot and spam bacta shot (medic only) all day long without having major mind problem.
Thats what I thought and why I mentioned my species.
And the best part is: You dont see those stats anymore when you create your toon.
And for those that created their toon before the CU: Does it matter what profession you started with?
If you check it here you can see that Medic/Artisan/etc. had different stats.
But you cannot do that anymore. Its only about what clothes you start with. So, I guess its only about basic stats now.
Hidden stats forStrength,Constitution,Quickness,
Stamina,Focus andWillpowerwas the worst idea imho.
But IIRC they are working on a species-change by IDs or something.
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