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Thread: sigh

Talcius
Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:55 pm
#1

Sigh this 30 second thing is going too far Mourn for a fallen TKM as he is forcedtopickup a pistol to do battle
Spakariti
Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:43 pm
#2

I feel ya brother

Maybe I'll make an architect, merchant or otherwise non combat profession so that I don't have to worry about nerfs. Or maybe I'll do the unthinkably dastardly deed of picking up a controller and playing a console game, at least until something comes out that strikes my fancy (VTM: Bloodlines and Half Life 2, you're calling my name)...
Epono
Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:20 pm
#3

"nerf pistols!" such a common cry these days, ive been a pistoleer since beta and am about at my wits end, so please allow me to clarify on a few things


1) Pistoleer as it stands now:


Disarm 2: from what i understand was never intended to be a ranged KD, apparently was bugged, while i do think its rather odd that Smuggler and BH get a ranged KD with the same weapon, pistol still has melee defense 1, so its really a non-issue. COE KD, soon to be removed, which is fine. My only problem with this special is that frankly I (nor anyone else I know)have nodesire to harm anyone's weapons. It has been suggested that possibly this shot could be made to unequip an opponents weapon, i dont know, this is debatable.


Multitarget Shot: Broken


Bodyshot 3: Broken, consistently does as much or less damage than Bodyshot 2 (Marksman), yet at a higher HAM cost.


Pistol Melee Defense 2: Remains broken, has no KD effect at all, yet at a higher HAM cost. With Melee Defense 1 at the first combat box its no surprise many people just stop there.


Disarm 1: does typical damage, however seems to have no "disarming" effect at all.


One of the Pistoleers greatest strengths is supposed to be the Defense Mods we obtain, however they also all seem to be broken.


Now, admittedly Pistoleer, even with these problems can function rather effectively within reason. i have as of late, seen alot ofnegativity towards pistoleers and blasters in general, i think alot of this stems from many players ignorance between the inherent similarities/differences between Bounty Hunter, Smuggler, and Pistoleer, people, are all too quick to lump the three of us together which toa certain degree is understandable.


Alot of classes need work and attention, the majority of them are much more broken than Pistoleer,which is unfortunate. Everytime a Pistoleer tries to get some of the problems addressed the thread turns into "omg, you think thats bad look at my class" contest. Let's face it this early in the game, all fields need work, attention and balancing but i think we can all agree that we each want our respective classes functioning properly.


2) Regarding the apparent confesion as to the rise of Novice Pistoleers as of late, I think there are two large factors in this


a) Pistoleer, although in many ways still broken, is actually sadly still less broken then many other classes, providing alot of people witha fun and viable way to play at the present time.


b) I really think this one is a much bigger factor than many people wil realize. In the last few weeks, i too have noticed a increase in teaching requests/new pistoleers about. Conversely i've also noticed a decrease in Tera Kasi artists, and an almost extinction (at least on my server) of TKA Masters.


WithTKA already at the enormous disadvantage of not being able to move while fighting (why is this neccesary? it's unrealistic and crippling) ,increasing the HAM cost of thier specials as dramatically as has happened recently is frankly, just adding insult to injury. I wish there was some way to track the ratio of people who have dropped TKA and picked uppistol, im guessing it'squite large.


3) The Great BH Vs Pistol Debate:


I think many Bounty Hunters overall would be surprised to find that most Pistoleeers hold no ill will against them at all, I personally think Bounty Hunters are exceptional, and should be deadly. Many Bounty Hunters seem to have the misconception that Pistoleeers want to be the most powerful class of all, and frankly this justisnt true. Conversely, many Pistoleers, view Bounty Hunters as invading dabblers who come in for melee defense 1 and a few other boxes while already having incredibly good Pistol Specials on their own.


A Bounty Hunters strength should be his broad knowledge of combat/weapons, a Pistoleer's strength (and perhaps limitation)should be his broad knowledge of combat with a Pistol. So,i do think its logical that a master pistoleer should give a master BH a very hard time in a one on one duelWITHPISTOLS. However, in any other situation, the Pistoleer should have some serious worrying to do. Hopefully, the addition of some higher cert weapons/fixing of Melee Defense 2, and the Defense Mods (for all classes)working will balance theseout a bit. I think alot of Pistoleeers frankly just find it disheartening to think another class, even at less than master level, is superior totheir use of the same weapon, even if mastered.


Regarding a Bounty Hunters knowledge, one suggestion i have is the addition of traps for Bounty Hunters that work vs humanoids, not only does it make complete logical sense given thier field, it really opens the door to some spectular attacks/effects and at the same time justifies their (often puzzling)investment in mastering Scout.


Heh, well I intended to keep this brief,hopefully, something postitive will come of this thread, best wishes to you all and happy gaming.





Inopo Komarri - Master Doctor/Master Swordsman 6/12/03-5/5/05
Nenya - Light Knight, Master Saber/Master Healer/Enhancer 4004 1/25/04-5/5/05
Cindal Kolara - Master Shipwright

dossw
Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:55 am
#4

What good is wayfaring except for camo's which I am told is broke? I was told it was a big boost to movement but this is not right at all. My brother does not have anything in wayfaring and I am maxed out and he keeps up with me on hills and even burst runs (his last same time mine does). I am one box away from Master Ranger (Still have a few more tents to make) and all my friends are scouts (not master scouts just halfway) and they perform as well as I do running/harvesting/using traps. Sure I might get 15 to 20 more meat per harvest but I sure paid a lot for those few extra meat/hides/bone.


Tracking is kinda neat but don't work well. I am maxed out in tracking and I will track and see nothing on the screen then move 60 meters forward and have reds pop almost on top of me hmmmm nice tracking.


Trapping - well the main one's I use you get as a scout and worked just as good then as now so thats wasted points (I am maxed in this one also).


oh well no purpose to this post except to vent.



Elrod Longrange

JBMat
Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:06 am
#5

Feel your pain bro.


Cept I use tracking a lot. See what players are around me, any known baddies I can mess with? Out in the weeds, I max out my radar, then use /ar to see what those dots are. Not perfect, but it helps.


I agree, the TN sucks and needs to be looked at. I can see the Devs problem (a lot of friends are programmers, 3 arms, live on warm pepsi and cold pizza) in that it should only apply in the wilds, and how to tone it down in the cities.


Harvesting, gotta disagree with ya. That extra couple, 5, 10 hides makes a difference in the long run. I want to go on a kill the beastie/harvest run, I go solo to avoid the 60% rule. I can get way more stuff in the average run than any Scout. I tested it...novice scout gets 5-7, I was taking 10-15. Not too shabby, and it makes killing some low level animals worth it...durnis give 10 hides, hmmm.


Once they fix maskscent and camo, and address our issues, life will be good. Until then, it ain't bad...


Off to kill happy lil animals


JB

xkon
Sun Dec 14, 2003 12:03 pm
#6

well i finally made it to master fencer and used another holocron....i got master commando. Its not really that i hate commando, but i like fighting melee and i used to be a 3444 commando but dropped. So i think its the fact im basically mastering it twice

anyway, mastering fencer was the best proff i did
AltairPolluxRigel
Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:03 pm
#7

you say that to all the boards.... /sniffle



-Altair
xkon
Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:47 pm
#8

what do you mean?
Guddy
Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:51 pm
#9

think he was trying2 crack a joke


Juddy




~ Juddy Zerzog ~ Elite Assassin of the Rebellion









Juddy Zerzog
Master of the Blade
Elite Assassin of the Rebellion


AltairPolluxRigel
Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:24 pm
#10

i fail a lot. it's ok, i'm used to it. you should be too, by now.



-Altair
Sedona1
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:25 pm
#11

<customer> Hey I want to put in an order for the new battle droids.


<me> Um....the only thing they did was upgrade the probot. Can I offer you an R2 with a blaster?


<customer> @#$*&#@ soe.



I have received this tell 10 times today so far. And I am hiding behind my master merchant tag.



sigh



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The force is not so strong in this one.
penquin
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:33 pm
#12

Yea i feel so bad for all of us, i am not even going anywhere with my tag up for fear of laughing at. what a rotten day, is the real patch tom. and is this just a prank on us?


Vace-MDE-INTREPID


Amesri-Ethagoulvi
Mon May 03, 2004 5:35 pm
#13

another prof down. grinding merchant and cabineer. any suggestions?

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