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Thread: Buff and the combat balance

Aeron-Blackthorn
Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:45 am
#1

Noticed in a list of potential balances for the upcoming combat balance, buffs were listed. Anyone have any details?




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Songe
Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:48 am
#2

Nobody knows anything about the combat revamp.



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Aeron-Blackthorn
Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:09 pm
#3


Well actually some information has come out on the plans for the combat revamp for certain professions. Knowing that a total HAM rebalance is happening doc buffs, wound packs will be affected.


Granted most of it is rumor from Fanfest but at this point its better than nothing. As for buffs getting lowered think about it all being relational not pure numbers. If you currently buff for X percentage over base stats my guess is that will not change only the numbers. . I actually rarely if ever buff publicly, for me there is more to being a doc than buffs, so let's not cry nerf yet. Just because the numbers maybe lower the percentages are actually what's important.


We're also looking at a complete Armor rebalance soon which will also affect how we buff and or experiment on our buff packs and stim packs.


And yes Docs wil lbe needed, we are not a one trick pony, there is more to us than simply a buff bot in my opinion.

Message Edited by Aeron-Blackthorn on 06-08-2004 01:11 PM



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Viscilli
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:28 pm
#4

Well the combat revamp is kinda like haveing a piece of cake dangeled just out of your reach, it looks so close but you'll never quite get it.



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Scoooter
Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:15 am
#5

Buffs will surely be affected since the whole way the HAM is dealt with will change.


What that affect means..that is what we dont know





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Powiv
Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:35 am
#6

Will docs even be needed? Or are they nerfing and we gonna have to sell our buffs at like 2K or somthing. im gonna be mad if they do that ill tell you.
MrHawat
Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:34 am
#7


Well, from what I am hearing from the Fanfest and other official statements, it sounds like it is going to be a major combat nerf. My alt is a MCH and we got creamed with the nerf bat the end of last year as part of the "Balance" we were told. They then put off the rest of the "Balance." MCH went from being a marginally useful profession to useless. I would not be surprised to see the combat balance go the same way the crafting balance went. They had so many accounts canceled that they backed off of it the next day. I suspect they put off the "Balance" because it would have come at about the same time as City of Heroes hit the market. I think they are waiting for a safe time, market wise, to try it and see how it goes over.


Tavias
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:00 am
#8

They're changing the whole way the ham system works, that means they're changing how buffs work. We have absolutely no clue how useful they'll end up as on the other side of the rebalance. I really wish they'd release more details about it, if nothing else to test the waters on a lot of things. It's an *extremely* dangerous thing really. So many are waiting for it to "fix" the game, and if it falls short, or even makes things worse, there's nothing that will stop the exodus of people. They might be counting on JtL to save them if it goes wrong.



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Erithil
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:07 am
#9

I wouldn't dispair about this too quickly. Sure they are rebalancing things and therefore HAM changes and enhancement changes are emminent, but the design of this game is to have doctors enhancing statistics significantly...so they will undoubtedly designing their system to retain this.


If they get it wrong, people will complain at various volume levels, and they will correct it. No worries.



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Songe
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:08 am
#10

Someone mentionned them saying at the FF that docs will have the long lasting less powerful buffs and smugglers the short powerful ones... whatever it implies.



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Aeron-Blackthorn
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:16 am
#11

No despair, just curiousity and having a long drawn out debate on Buffs and how they affect Roleplay on another board. One of the comments was that the balance was going to change that. Then I realize while other professions were getting at least some rumors we hadn't seen anything yet.




Aeron- Blackthorn / Jedi Desperado "Hi Ho Banta Away!"
Adriana- Darksun / Master Carbineer / Bounty Hunter

THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR DWARVEN RIVER DANCING!!!
jassi007
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:41 am
#12

One thing I've heard slung about is specials will no long use ham. There will be some other kind of point system for specials. This eliminates buffed characters from spamming specials till the cows come home.

This implies, that buffs will be similar to what they are now. I expect values to be tweaked, but since they are making specials work differently to stop special spam instead of outright nerfing buffs, I don't think they'll be tweaked down too much.

However, this still makes buffs "slightly" less desirable, as the buff no longer affects the ablility to use specials.

Of course 90% of everything said at this point is just rumor, and even if it came from a dev still subject to change.



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Aeron-Blackthorn
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:48 am
#13

Interesting, though I'd still want to be buffed not so much to spam specials but my regen rates on my primaries are always more important even with damage than the actual primary buff.



Aeron- Blackthorn / Jedi Desperado "Hi Ho Banta Away!"
Adriana- Darksun / Master Carbineer / Bounty Hunter

THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR DWARVEN RIVER DANCING!!!
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