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Thread: Just My Humble Opinion

Itrino
Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:55 am
#1






Well, I like the new static buffs, I'd rather be buffing at 1600's throughout, then buffing with 700s here and there any day. I think all the moaning and groaning that docs do about all the tells and the fake bank tips and all that stuff is just a load of crap though. I buff, and I sit and wait, and sometimes its slow and sometimes its busy and I keep everything in line just fine. I'm not some uber-typer or anything, I just pay attention and I apologize to people if it takes me a moment to respond, you'd be amazed at how easy that is to do, not being an ass that is. Too many of us docs act like we don't have time for peoples questions, well you know if you don't like it then find a new profession, more than half of you are just holo-grinders anyways, so I could care less about your opinion, or your gripes. I answer questions, there are no top ten that I hate, because if you have a question you think is a dumb doc question, I guarantee you've asked another profession a question that they think is equally stupid, and your own arrogance in thinking that way is just plain ignorant. Please, fire back on this one if you'd like, because when you start throwing your "well you're stupid" lines at me you'll only help to fortify my point and prove you are one of the individuals that doesn't need to be a doctor, however any intelligent commentary would be appreciated greatly. If I was doing this for the money then I wouldn't be doing it, because there are plenty of professions that make way more cash than I do for a great deal less effort on their part, so don't give me that crap either, I do this because I think it's fun and though I most certainly complain about bad resources, its not because now Im gonna make less money, it's always because now the people that come to me for buffs and my guildmates aren't going to get the buffs they deserve. Sure, I charge 10k for buffs, some of you charge more and some of you charge less, is there a single thing wrong with that? No.If you have customers that will pay for it and they don't walk away cursing you, then good job and keep on rolling, people will buy buffs because they need them to do the stuff they want to do, and if they don't like your rates, or your buffs don't meet their expectations before purchase, then oh well, tell them to have a nice day and move on to the next person. Sometimes I buff people for free, because I feel like it, though I do not cater to beggars and I never will, but Ive had plenty of people come back and pay me later just because I helped them out when they needed a hand. I've been in the tell hell too, that all docs will face at one point. I was the only doc down at the biolabs one night and people were paying me 20k for buffs, I wasn't asking that, they offered and as low as the buffs were from BF and the randomizer at the time, they were happy to get them and kept coming back for more. When people wanted a resI would run into that hellhole with no armor and give them a res. I charged 5k for that though, cus I risked my own life everytime I went in, and they paid that happily too. Should the devs fix things for the docs? Yes.Then again, they should fix a great many things that need fixing. Here though are a few of the things I would like to see for the docs. I have heard that there were meat farms before the game went live, I would like to see them returned to the game, I would charge a heck of a lot less for my buffs ifI had the ability to raise my own meat of a quality that I had control over. This could easily be done by requiring that the farms use grains, wheats, cereals etc of high quality to produce quality meats instead of power. We should be able to group buff, but it should require different buff sets that require larger amounts of resources if its going to cause more of the moaning and groaning that everything else in this game does. Making things harder does not make the game more entertaining people, if anything it just makes it lame and makes prices go through the ceiling and does this really effect those of us that have been here for some time, no, but it does hinder new players that come into the game, given 250 creds to start and then see that a set of crappy resources on the bazaar is going for the outrageous sum of 10-15cpu. If anything we as docs need to ask the devs to do things for us that will make us be able to decrease our prices, so that others might follow in suit. Basically Im just going off on a tangent now and that was not my intention, so it comes down to this. Quit treating people like crap if you do, quit whining and crying about every little thing in the game because I know that its not kids that are doing all the complaining, these are the complaints of intelligent adults that are acting like children. If we ban together we can get changes made to this game, the Wookies got it done, so can the doctors. If you're an Intrepid Doc, send a tell or email to Shadis, because we can hold our own conferences and protests just like they did, I'd be more than happy to help out if its something that would benefit the docs in doing a better job that would in turn aid the player community.
Starphire
Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:59 am
#2

the paragraph is your friend.



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Rhonethesilver
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:06 am
#3

Ummm, yeah wrote that under a friends name by mistake and a little too rushed, my bad.
UmmonPrime
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:14 am
#4

If you want stupid questions, try beingan armorsmith......






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DasShadow
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:21 am
#5

We are not complaining, and just like you, its OUR humble opinion. A lot of things we write on this msg board is our own opinion and a lot of times, just like the static buffing, if we voice our opinions enough...the change will happen.

Try this...

Make a buffpack thats pretty superior...spend about I say 5-10 million making a crate of 50 (each stat) High quality buffs. And then sit in coronet, or someplace equally busy, and make sure your bank is at 0. Ok do about 50 buffs and then rest a bit, change your title or something so that you dont get bothered with questions, and then check your bankroll. You got about 20K in there. Hmmm....you charged 6K per buff and you got 20K cuz you allowed them to bank tip you assuming it was legit.

Now try this after learning this....

You stand in coronet again, advertise that you will NOT accept bank tips. Ok so about 5 people at once bank tipped you and you get upset cuz you already advertised you dont allow bank tips and you dont see a change in your bankroll cuz they all prolly sent a fake email. You tell them "Ok I didnt get any money please do a trade or tip from your pocket"....now they all scream at you saying you just scammed them for money and they release this whole drama on your $$$ cuz you wont buff them and they make a scene so now youre known as the doctor who just scammed 5 people out of buffs and credits.

Ok so you learn your lesson AGAIN...but now what? You tried everything and you cant stop the scams and the constant BS going on when you smarten up when all this could be solved just by voicing your opinions. You worked hard saving 10 million credits to make buffs so you can try and get compensated for your hardwork and instead you get stiffed and jeered.

We are not complaining about the Doc profession. If we hated it, we would choose something else. I like being a Doc cuz I can buff myself and make high quality stimpacks and experiment with different crafting schemes. But for those who are docs to make an "honest living" in the game, they are being royally screwed and THATS why we voice our opinions.



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Bannon9k
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:25 am
#6

Do what I do....Dont buff people for money.


I quit it a while back...before the latest level buff patch.


No more whining customers, no more rip off bank tips, no more "buff me buff me buff me" tells....couldnt be happier.


Just buff myself, and go collect loot to sell...easy easy =)



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DasShadow
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:28 am
#7

In regards to the "doc questions"....

I dont care about the questions, I answer them. I wrote a top 10 annoying question for docs post for FUN, it wasnt to piss anyone off. I got these questions from 4 docs who have been a doctor for about a month and they are just annoying cuz they can easily find the answers by reading FAQS or by observing the doctors instead of asking us when we are in a spam-hell region and just dont have time to answer them. Im standing with a droid in coronet buffing , theres a line in front of me, Im advertising my buffs....and some guy thats RIGHT next to me asks "Are you buffing?" or "Can you heal my wounds?"...so any posts about questions for doctors isnt a post to complain but its just a heads up. A heads up isnt so bad =D



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-Vassar on Eclipse (Master Doc, TKA)
-Das on Shadowfire (Bounty Hunter)
Flynn_Nomad
Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:17 am
#8

Try edititing it with some spacing and paragraphs, I honestly cant read it like that.


Also highlight your point, as I would like to comment.





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Rhonethesilver
Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:09 am
#9



Okay and whats the point there though man, I mean first off, if you spend 5-10 million to make buffs, then no wonder our economy is so screwed up. You need to find some people to aid you with that stuff, join a guild or something, cus thats crazy and you are getting ripped off spending that much. And yeah I see your point about the losing money thing, but think about it, I could walk up to any doc and start yelling that "I paid and he wont buff me and this is bullsh**" and it would have the same effect, honestly if any. I know a lot of people on my server and they know I wouldn't do that, and if you're making good buffs and you're doing good business then they should know you too, its not like theres that many of us on each server, you see the same people over and over and word of mouth spreads, for the best most of the time.


Unfortunately though, where some like yourself may have valid opinions as well DasShadow, many of the docs on the boards do not, if you disagree with that as well then cool, but this game is quickly becoming the playground of bitc*** and whiners and its just gotten to the point of pathetic. I notice that many people complain that we act too god like and I agree, I think a great many of the docs do think they are better than everyone else, why?


So try this, if they bank tip and you know its a scam then don't buff, they complain, well too bad. I've had plenty of people complain to me about things they didnt like that I did, but they know they're in the wrong and the tons of people that know me and trust me are proof that though I may not always have the best buffs, I am honest and polite, and I have friends because of it that will back my rep, so i don't worry about that crap, and I dont care if they yell, cus theres so much of that going on in Coronet anyways that most people aren't even paying attention...how often do you read every single spatial and yell when you're in Coronet?


And to boot, i've had tells coming in so fast that its looked just like the spatial in Coronet, and I'm in groupchat, yet I don't have that much of a problem dealing with it, I just take my time and get it done, if they walk away cus they're impatient then oh well, others will come.


DasShadow
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:20 pm
#10

I spent 10 million on strong buffpacks cuz of the following reasons:

avian meat and herb meat, HQ ones are at least 150-200CPU nowadays. If you make a crate of 50 buffpacks for each stat, thats already 300 buffpacks right there. Now multiply 300 * 22 cuz thats how much meat you need for a buffpack. I would say thats about 6-7K of just one type of meat...That alone is already 1 mil just for avian, I didnt even mention the other high quality resources I have paid for....Tat fiberblast, reactive gas, lok wheat, herb meat, etc....theres about 8 different resources with a certain criteria that you must meet to make awesome buffs. The people you are buffing, you wanna get paid for your services cuz you want to get the money you invested back into your pocket, and maybe a lil extra for all your hardwork and efforts.

Now you might ask "Just hunt them yourself or harvest them yourself and you dont have to pay a penny for your resources", correct? Well to harvest and kill things on my own I would have to invest about 2-3 months just getting these HQ resources since a lot of us work and cant play the game 24/7. Whether you are getting paid for the resources you bought, or the time you put into the game to make these resources...you wanna get paid. You want the "tip" so that you can feel good about making money the honest way. The fact that people stiff you and make a mockery of your hardwork and efforts to SERVICE THEM, is just absurd. It makes the game no fun, and I thought the game was supposed to be fun?

I look forward to the next publish =)



"I'm so unlucky...if I fell into a barrel of nipples, I would come out sucking my own thumb."
-Vassar on Eclipse (Master Doc, TKA)
-Das on Shadowfire (Bounty Hunter)
UmmonPrime
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:27 pm
#11

I paid 200 cpu for my avian and get nothing but complements on my buffs. Then again, I'm used to being abused because my alternate is a master armorsmith.


Then again, with the amout of good deals i've gotten, it all balances out.





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Marrow1
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:32 pm
#12

Itrino, do you have a point? Maybe one or two key ideas you would like to get across?




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Roustabout
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:06 pm
#13







Unfortunately though, where some like yourself may have valid opinions as well DasShadow, many of the docs on the boards do not, if you disagree with that as well then cool, but this game is quickly becoming the playground of bitc*** and whiners and its just gotten to the point of pathetic. I notice that many people complain that we act too god like and I agree, I think a great many of the docs do think they are better than everyone else, why?






It's funny that you call people's opinions invalid yet you back it up with only opinion yourself. Don't come here with an abrasive attitude and you will find YOUR opinions valued and the community ready to listen. Also try and make sure you don't do the very things you complain about, that tends to degrade your arguments and make your points seem to carry less substance.
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