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Thread: New Doctor Wants To Make Own Buffs
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Proeanut
Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:42 pm
#1
Im new with not to much money to spare, so how do you guys go about making YOUR OWN buff packs? I keep having to buy my buffs from another doctors shop, and wanna make my own. Please help me out with any info.
I am on Gorath server (if ya wanna help)
-Proeanut
Mglol
Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:15 pm
#2
Ok ill try to break it down.. First off, if you want to buff as good as them you will need to use all advanced components made with the best resources that have spawned on your server.
Advanced biological controller: 3 used per buffpack (2 for quickness)
Tatoonian fiberplast : Overall quality and Unit toughness decide how good it will be, higher is better.
Lokian wild wheat : Overall quality and potential energy decide how good it will be, higher is better.
You should try to put experiment points towards maxing charges and then if you have points left put them into power. You will have about 5-8 lower power but also that many extra charges which makes a bigger difference.
Advanced solid delivery shell: 1 used per buffpack
Dolovite iron: Overall quality decide how good it will be, higher is better.
Domesticated oats : Overall quality and potential energy decide how good it will be, higher is better.
Only one attribute to experiment on, max out.
Advanced chemical release duration mechanism: 2 used per buffpack
Known liquid petro 4: Overall quality and potential energy decide how good it will be, higher is better.
Herbivore meat : Overall quality and potential energy decide how good it will be, higher is better. Note that potential energy is capped at 700 on this and not 1000 as on everything else.
Only one attribute to experiment, max out
These 3 components are needed in the buffpack schematic with same serial number, so you will need to do each component in factory first. Then you are ready to make the buffpack schematic and do crates.
Enhance - D:
Avian meat : Overall quality and Potential energy decides power, decay resistance decides time.
Reactive gas: Overall quality decides power, decay resistance time
1 asds
2 acrdm
3 abec
Which you made earlier. As you might have noted, you need very specific resources from very specific planets or mobs. That will make it very very hard to get ahold of the best of each that have spawned on your server or close to it. Then you need to harvest avian and herbivore meat on a planet which has it in high quality, if any do during current shift.
It took me 3-4 months to gather the most of what i needed of best shift stuff on chimaera when i started doctor crafting about 1.5 months after server start. Then i just keep checking new shifts and if its close to, or better than what i have i harvest as much as possible for later. Also, keep my eyes open for avian and herbivore with good quality on an easy planet to collect it. For example, on tatooine you need to kill dwarf nunas for avian which drops 3 units as novice scout but on lok you can get up to 25 units from some avians with same scout skill.
Gathering and crafting buffpacks is a fun and challenging undertaking, it requires good contact with customers and those who harvest meat to sell. It is also the single thing for doctors that can bring in alot of credits.
It got a bit messy but i cant be bothered to edit etc since its zzz time and mission is accomplished i think.
I dont mind answering direct tells ingame on my chimaera characters Mglo or Mglol to explain further and help out no matter what server you might be on. Good luck! get rich! 
Proeanut
Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:33 pm
#3
Wow, thanks for that info, but how did you get all the cash for that? Im really poor lol and its really hard for me to do all this stuff. Cant find anyone to group up with to make buffpacks either :-(
Mglol
Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:06 pm
#4
I made cash by making other meds and selling lower than the older doc crafters. Stims, woundpacks and such are not as hard to gather resources good enough to be fairly competetive. You can skip herbivore and do a non advanced component.. then try to buy as good stuff for the other 2 components or harvest it when it shows 
Then you just put a few flora farms on the best "organic" oq/pe wise you can find.. it isnt too hard since any organic works so you should get at least 850 in both pretty fast Then some minerals on "inorganic" which is anything that isnt organic almost and only high Oq is important so out of all metals in current shift one of them should have 900+ Overall quality.
Then some minerals on "inorganic" which is anything that isnt organic almost and only high Oq is important so out of all metals in current shift one of them should have 900+ Overall quality.Then sell them a bit cheaper and maybe fill bazaar in mining op and such with singles at a pretty high price
Or buy 1 of each buffpack for 120k and buff 30 people for 12k each which is standard on chimaera
I buffed together my first 30 heavy harvesters in a week 3-4 hours a day
Almost everything BUT buffpacks is fairlyeasy to find good resources for cheap
ShakariPsy
Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:37 am
#5
Proeanut wrote:
Wow, thanks for that info, but how did you get all the cash for that? Im really poor lol and its really hard for me to do all this stuff. Cant find anyone to group up with to make buffpacks either :-(
Make cash by buffing ppl with your purchased buff packs
Unique_Handle
Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:55 am
#6
heh, first day I became doc I spent 3mill on resources and made about 70 sets of 905 power 12810 duration!
Sold 'em for a total of about 7mill, and now, well, its not too hard to keep going
Anyways, if you don't have the money you will never be able to make buffs as good as mine (if you were on my server that is).
Reason is simply that I was able to pick up resources that haven't spawned for months. You need to get the best of everything, or you don't stand a chance.
Now, that being said, I would probably have hit 850ish power by spending 1mill instead of three.
Meaning, you may not necessarily need the best of everything. It depends on what you intend to do with the buffs.
I sell buffs, and I know that people only care about high power (dont ask me why, I never understood this myself), and unless you can match the best on your server you simply won't be selling anything, not even by being 10% worse but 30% cheaper.
This is my experience anyways...
However, if you are going to make buffpacks to use yourself, you don't need the best of everything.
Get some average stuff (you should be able to get most stuff except avian for around 5CPU), make a few buffpacks, use them, buy more stuff etc, and you should be making some good money fairly soon...
If you don't have money, it takes time. Don't give up though, once you get the ball rolling it'll be great fun
Sold 'em for a total of about 7mill, and now, well, its not too hard to keep going
Anyways, if you don't have the money you will never be able to make buffs as good as mine (if you were on my server that is).
Reason is simply that I was able to pick up resources that haven't spawned for months. You need to get the best of everything, or you don't stand a chance.
Now, that being said, I would probably have hit 850ish power by spending 1mill instead of three.
Meaning, you may not necessarily need the best of everything. It depends on what you intend to do with the buffs.
I sell buffs, and I know that people only care about high power (dont ask me why, I never understood this myself), and unless you can match the best on your server you simply won't be selling anything, not even by being 10% worse but 30% cheaper.
This is my experience anyways...
However, if you are going to make buffpacks to use yourself, you don't need the best of everything.
Get some average stuff (you should be able to get most stuff except avian for around 5CPU), make a few buffpacks, use them, buy more stuff etc, and you should be making some good money fairly soon...
If you don't have money, it takes time. Don't give up though, once you get the ball rolling it'll be great fun
rgrocott
Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:59 pm
#7
Unique_Handle wrote:
I sell buffs, and I know that people only care about high power (dont ask me why, I never understood this myself), and unless you can match the best on your server you simply won't be selling anything, not even by being 10% worse but 30% cheaper.
This is my experience anyways...
Just to offer an alternative point of view, I would love to buy some really cruddy buffpacks if they were much cheaper (I think you're talking about selling the packs, yeah? ). I buy top-class ones too (thanks SiNiSon ), but I want some of each so I can choose which to use.
I recently picked up Doc on both my characters, predominantly soI don't have to go and find a Doc who's buffing when I want to go have fun. However, there are many times when I'm just hunting lower-level prey, and all I need is some sort of buff to get armour on, and allow me to use specials without killing myself. Anything that buffed me for 1500 or so would be more than enough, and since I may just be getting a quick hour's hunting in, I don't really want to be paying top-level prices if I don't have to.
The very best will always command the highest prices, as it should be. But I feel there's a LOT of opportunity for lower quality, lower price buffs too, both in the buffpack market, and when buffing at starports
sc24evr
Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:13 am
#8
here is my question. I've been buyin buffpacks at about 12k per around 850+ and ive been wanting to start makin my own, but it seems near impossible finding all the resources I need and finding them at cheap prices, would ie be easier and more profitable to just keep buying these buffs? spending 400 cpu seems ridiculous on buffs which i dont knw will be better than the ones im buyin. any recommendations of advice? thank you
BrJLa
Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:57 pm
#9
1. Be prepared for it to take at least 4 weeks to accumulate everything you'll need.
2. Be prepared to spend at least $3 million on harvesters and out-of-spawn resources.
3. You will need combat and scout skills. Avian and herbivore meat are way too expensive to buy. Get started ASAP harvesting these resources, but be VERY picky. On your server right now, the only thing worth hunting is Dant Herb Meat. And that's probably going to shift soon. The amount ofmeatyou canget your hands onis going to dictate how much of everything else you're going to need.
4. Buy harvesters. I'd say at least 2 floras, 2 gas, 2 mineral, 2 chemical and 2 fusion. Make friends with an architect (spam Coronet star port for anyone who knows a friendly architect) or try joining a guild. A friendly architect will sell you harvesters for $20K or $25K. A guildmate might just give them to you for free.
5. Keep an eye on www.iootnega.com, and harvest any good Reactive Gas, Domesticated Oats, Class 4 Liquid Petro, Dolovite Iron, Tat Fiberplast or Lok Wild Wheat. If I were you, I'd be harvesting right now the current spawn of Orveth Reactive Gas and Class 4 Liquid Petro. Neither are extraordinary, but they're both good enough for at least a first batch of maybe 50 buff packs. Good Domesticated Oats are pretty common. Dolovite and Class 4 are extremely rare on my server. Be prepared that you will most likely have to buy old spawns of most of this stuff. You'll be lucky if 3 or 4 good resources spawn before you're ready to start crafting, and you'll have to buy the rest. The forums are a good place to pick up most of this stuff.
6. Once you get all this stuff together, crafting is actually a lot of fun. So get to work accumulating this stuff, and come back when you're ready to proceed to the next step.
weshutch
Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:09 am
#11
short answer - yes.
long answer - depends on how long you plan on keeping doc. If you want to wait for decents spawns of doc resources and slap down a few harvies as the come (and hire a few rangers for meat), then after a few months you should have all the resources you need to play around with making buffs. Unfortunatly, you will have play as a buff-monkey for a while to keep a steady cash flow for investing in harvies, factories, meat...
Along the way try dabbling in selling stims on the bazaar. Start with stim-b's and work you're way up. Its great practice at crafting untill you get comfortable enought to try your hand at buffpacks.
hope this helps
long answer - depends on how long you plan on keeping doc. If you want to wait for decents spawns of doc resources and slap down a few harvies as the come (and hire a few rangers for meat), then after a few months you should have all the resources you need to play around with making buffs. Unfortunatly, you will have play as a buff-monkey for a while to keep a steady cash flow for investing in harvies, factories, meat...
Along the way try dabbling in selling stims on the bazaar. Start with stim-b's and work you're way up. Its great practice at crafting untill you get comfortable enought to try your hand at buffpacks.
hope this helps
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