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Thread: The Droid vs The Med Center: Let's Talk this one out.

Marrow1
Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:07 pm
#1

Droid vs Med Center

Which should have the higher bonus?


This is an age old question and since we are being asked for our list of changes we would like to see made that we should talk a bit about this one.


As the starter of this thread I get the first word but by no means the last word. Since this will be a highly charged item please keep your comments civil and on topic.


Here is how I see it.

Pros

1. It just makes for since that a med center would be able to take care of a person better than a droid. (Role Player)

2. It would be nice to make med centers have a use.

A. They take up many lots so there should be a bonus

B. It would push docs in med centers so that people who need healing can find a doc.

3. Clean up some of the spam/lag in the starport.


Cons

1. Buff Bots would pop up like weeds. The only thing keeping doc buff bots at bay is that droids can not be recharged while AFK. If a doc could go afk and still get the highest buff then the Doc prof would be faced with the same issue that entertainers are faced with. Since almost everyone with a Jedi has a doc as an Alt there would be a mass creation of doc buff bots.

2. Restricted movement. It would just be a pain to need to run to a med center to get the best buff.

3.This change would push docs med centers making it less convient for the customer and the crowding in the med center could get ugly.


My vote is for keeping the droid as the highest bonus. Con #1 is a big concern for me. I do not want to see the doc prof cheapend as the entertainer prof as been.I believe this con is not worth any of the pro's that I have ever read.


If they were to make it so that med centers could not have an enterence fee or make is so that some item in the room needed to be charged up from time to time like a droid and that item could not be charged while AFK then maybe I could agree with makeing the med center have the higher bonus.


Please present your thoughts on this topic and read what others have to say about it before you post on Agent's thread.






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Obata
Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:31 pm
#2


I think Con #1 can be addressed while still getting the benifits listed in all the pros.The best combination should be a droid in a med center. The droids could have weak healing modifiers of their own, but also apply bonuses when in a hospital or another healing environment (camps, houses etc.). Without throwing out any numbers, I think the order for highest to lowest healing modifier should be:


1. Hospital + Droid

2. Hospital without droid

3. Large Ranger camp or House + Droid

4. The above w/o the droid and small camps with a droid

5. small camps without a droid

6. Droid by itself


The best buffs would still require a droid, yet hospitals would have a valuable place in the game. It would also add some much needed worth to camps.

Message Edited by Obata on 10-27-2004 05:32 PM



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DFA-FrstbyteOO
Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:49 pm
#3

I already posted a response to the Con #1 and Im just gonna quote it





DFA-FrstbyteOO wrote:





I can see a problem with having buff bots take over like you stated, but there is a simple solution to it (heck Im not even sure if this is how it currently is even) make PC Med Centers just like a Merchant tent.. you CANNOT make them private, and thus cannot charge an entry fee like all the buff bots do now. There is no reason for a medical center to be declared as a private structure. If they have no way of making sure they get a fee for thier afk services, then say bye bye to the bots getting a med center bonus.










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Marrow1
Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:53 pm
#4

Currently Med Centers can have a fee attached to them.




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Moyra
Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:29 pm
#5








Marrow1 wrote:

Droid vs Med Center

Which should have the higher bonus?


This is an age old question and since we are being asked for our list of changes we would like to see made that we should talk a bit about this one.


As the starter of this thread I get the first word but by no means the last word. Since this will be a highly charged item please keep your comments civil and on topic.


Here is how I see it.

Pros

1. It just makes for since that a med center would be able to take care of a person better than a droid. (Role Player)

2. It would be nice to make med centers have a use.

A. They take up many lots so there should be a bonus

B. It would push docs in med centers so that people who need healing can find a doc.

3. Clean up some of the spam/lag in the starport.


Cons

1. Buff Bots would pop up like weeds. The only thing keeping doc buff bots at bay is that droids can not be recharged while AFK. If a doc could go afk and still get the highest buff then the Doc prof would be faced with the same issue that entertainers are faced with. Since almost everyone with a Jedi has a doc as an Alt there would be a mass creation of doc buff bots.

2. Restricted movement. It would just be a pain to need to run to a med center to get the best buff.

3.This change would push docs med centers making it less convient for the customer and the crowding in the med center could get ugly.


My vote is for keeping the droid as the highest bonus. Con #1 is a big concern for me. I do not want to see the doc prof cheapend as the entertainer prof as been.I believe this con is not worth any of the pro's that I have ever read.


If they were to make it so that med centers could not have an enterence fee or make is so that some item in the room needed to be charged up from time to time like a droid and that item could not be charged while AFK then maybe I could agree with makeing the med center have the higher bonus.


Please present your thoughts on this topic and read what others have to say about it before you post on Agent's thread.






I've been a master doc for about a year and it disappointing to see how little the med centers are used for actual wound healing. I've tried buffing in front of the med center just because the lag can be so bad right around the starports. I don't spend alot of time buffing the public through advertising, but I keep my tag up and buff anytime I'm approached.


It would be great to offer a bonus to use a med center provided something be done about preventing the possibility of buff bots. I think that would seriously have a negative impact on the profession.


I think the Pros and Cons have been captured.


As far as restricting movement, the restriction would only occur if you couldn'tbuff with your droid. The best bonus would come from the med center, second best with the droid.


My vote is a higher bonus to the med center, provided removal of the entrance fee. Otherwise, leave the droid as the highest bonus.

Message Edited by Moyra on 10-31-2004 07:35 PM



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Eyedun
Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:26 pm
#6

Lets do a search for the 50 or so other threads that have covered this.

I love being able to leave this forum for a month, come back and its the same threads .. just new authors.. lol



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Roustabout
Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:40 pm
#7






Obata wrote:


I think Con #1 can be addressed while still getting the benifits listed in all the pros.The best combination should be a droid in a med center. The droids could have weak healing modifiers of their own, but also apply bonuses when in a hospital or another healing environment (camps, houses etc.). Without throwing out any numbers, I think the order for highest to lowest healing modifier should be:


1. Hospital + Droid

2. Hospital without droid

3. Large Ranger camp or House + Droid

4. The above w/o the droid and small camps with a droid

5. small camps without a droid

6. Droid by itself


The best buffs would still require a droid, yet hospitals would have a valuable place in the game. It would also add some much needed worth to camps.

Message Edited by Obata on 10-27-2004 05:32 PM






I think this is perhaps the best solution I've ever seen for this topic. Med Center + Droid being the best option would appease both droid engineers and docs.


And yes this is the same damn topic that always comes up...it would just be nice if we could see some kind of correspondence on this (Tiggs, I know you're out there somewhere). Everyone on here always seems to want med centers to b/come the focal center for the medical profession so why not give us incentive to go back to our roots?


KanyeW3ST
Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:13 pm
#8

Do u have to place a med center in a city or can u put it anywhere u want.




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Hitokiri_Manji
Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:19 pm
#9

A +wound healing speed modifier in med centers would get them used more.



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