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Thread: Poison Resist Buffs

Naeto
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:01 am
#1

In Poison resist C's What exactly is the absorbsion rate for? Does it reduce the time the poison will tick for? Does it reduce how hard the poison ticks? Is it worth the exp points to raise this stat, or focus on effectiveness?



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Wea-sel
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:07 am
#2

Pretty sure, but not all knowing, but the strength of the resist, will make it so you don't get poisioned/diseased from low effectiveness poisions/diseases. I'm 11pt MCM and I can get most area poisions above the resistance of the buff. So to say you enhance your poision resistence by 190. The med the CM is throwing has to have 190 effectiveness or above. The potency of a poision is just how much the tick takes off. That is my best knowledge of the resists. So not 100%, but probably pretty close.

Hope that helps



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Obata
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:13 am
#3

The effectivenss of the resist buff checks against the potency of the poison. If they are the same, then the poison has a 50% chance of sticking. The absorbtion is a percentage by which the damage done by the poison will be reduced when a poison does stick. The damage done by a poison is determined by it's effectiveness and the CM's Combat Medic Effectiveness Modifier.



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Naeto
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:14 am
#4






Wea-sel wrote:
Pretty sure, but not all knowing, but the strength of the resist, will make it so you don't get poisioned/diseased from low effectiveness poisions/diseases. I'm 11pt MCM and I can get most area poisions above the resistance of the buff. So to say you enhance your poision resistence by 190. The med the CM is throwing has to have 190 effectiveness or above. The potency of a poision is just how much the tick takes off. That is my best knowledge of the resists. So not 100%, but probably pretty close.

Hope that helps





Wow, I think your kinda backwards on the Whole CM thing. Potency is how well it sticks, Effectiveness is how hard it ticks.




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Naeto
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:16 am
#5






Obata wrote:

The effectivenss of the resist buff checks against the potency of the poison. If they are the same, then the poison has a 50% chance of sticking. The absorbtion is a percentage by which the damage done by the poison will be reduced when a poison does stick. The damage done by a poison is determined by it's effectiveness and the CM's Combat Medic Effectiveness Modifier.







Any opinions on whereI should put the exp points on them?





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Obata
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:17 am
#6






Naeto wrote:





Obata wrote:

The effectivenss of the resist buff checks against the potency of the poison. If they are the same, then the poison has a 50% chance of sticking. The absorbtion is a percentage by which the damage done by the poison will be reduced when a poison does stick. The damage done by a poison is determined by it's effectiveness and the CM's Combat Medic Effectiveness Modifier.







Any opinions on whereI should put the exp points on them?








Effectiveness is best, IMO.



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Marrow1
Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:41 am
#7






Obata wrote:





Naeto wrote:





Obata wrote:

The effectivenss of the resist buff checks against the potency of the poison. If they are the same, then the poison has a 50% chance of sticking. The absorbtion is a percentage by which the damage done by the poison will be reduced when a poison does stick. The damage done by a poison is determined by it's effectiveness and the CM's Combat Medic Effectiveness Modifier.







Any opinions on whereI should put the exp points on them?








Effectiveness is best, IMO.




I have been debating this myself. There are a fewthings to think about.


1. Go with effectiveness


a. It is better to not have a poison land at all if you can help it.


b. It forces a CM to bump up the Pot which cost them on Eff. As a result the poison that will land will be of a lower eff resulting in a lower tickjust as if you had exp the resist buff on absorbtion.


2. Go with absorbtion


a. Even with a low pot poison they will land sooner or later. Once they do it is helpful to have something that will soak up some of that tick. This is very important when you have many CM tossing on you and stacking.


3. Let your resouces guide you.


a. The named resouces to make C resists are often of much lower quality than those available to make B resist. So if your going to exp on Eff you are often much better of making a B resist as the eff and duration can often be made much higher due to better resouces. The 4% or so base absorption of a C is often not worth the loss of Eff due to the low quality resouces (assuming your going for eff).


b. So in the end if your going to make a C pack more often than not you will only do it to if you wish to exp on absorption.


So where do I stand? If your doing large base raids I go with absorption C packs. If your just PvPing in small groups then I go with B packs. I dont bother when PvE because the duration is so low they wind up running out about the time I really would need them.


The sucky part comes when you buff your self with a nice C pack with high absorptioin but lower eff and someone comes along to "help" and gives you a slightly higher eff buff but with no absorption. The over buff only checks against eff.






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Wea-sel
Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:57 am
#8

Yeah, guess I was wrong, new to the crafting portion of Doc and CM. Thanks for your responce about being backwards, or I would be putting all my points into the wrong stuff. Your question helped both of us, thanks.



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Naeto
Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:00 am
#9

Alright I decided to go mainly into effectiveness, I was able to make them at 218 eff for just over 3000 duration, and the base 5% absorbsion. I think that should do the trick



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