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Thread: XP cap needs to be increased...for FS conversions

Rikilii
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:26 pm
#1

Doctor's currently have an 80K xp cap.


Med. xp converts 10:1 into FS skill xp.


Each FS branch that can use Med. xp requires 1,225,000 fs xp, or 12,250,000 medical xp.


With the 80K cap, this means a ridiculous 154 visits to the village to convert xp for each branch, or over 600to fill all Senseskill blocks.


Am I crazy, or is this excessive? We should get an increase in the cap



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ZeroK0ol
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:12 pm
#2

man people complain to much.



The cap is FINE. deal with it..... MIGHT AS WELL SAY


'I was lieing when i wanted a story driven path, I JUST WANT MY JEDI NOW. WAAAAAAAAH'


1 star me to hell, im tired of people whining about this. Dr CANNOT be your only proffession, or else ur definately doing something wrong. u have enough caps in whatever proffessions you use altogether to be fine.



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Rikilii
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:46 pm
#3






ZeroK0ol wrote:


'I was lieing when i wanted a story driven path, I JUST WANT MY JEDI NOW. WAAAAAAAAH'


1 star me to hell, im tired of people whining about this. Dr CANNOT be your only proffession, or else ur definately doing something wrong. u have enough caps in whatever proffessions you use altogether to be fine.





Yeah, whatever dude.....what if I'm a MCM/Mdr?


Yes. I wanted a story driven path....not one that requires crazy amounts of pointless grinding and hundreds of trips to some stupid village. So sue me for wanting a game that's fun.





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ZeroK0ol
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:56 pm
#4

So what ur really saying is 'Wahhhh i dont wanna WORK for my Jedi'



ok dude. i have ur cheese *grabs some fromunda* eat with ur wine.



1-This isnt supposed to be easy

2-There will be combat type people constantly at the village. set up camp there to heal wounds/buff

3-dath is a perfect place to join a group and heal the hell out of people

4-if ur a doc/combat medic ur useless in most areas of the game except specifically HEALING.



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Rikilii
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:05 pm
#5






ZeroK0ol wrote:

So what ur really saying is 'Wahhhh i dont wanna WORK for my Jedi'



ok dude. i have ur cheese *grabs some fromunda* eat with ur wine.



1-This isnt supposed to be easy

2-There will be combat type people constantly at the village. set up camp there to heal wounds/buff

3-dath is a perfect place to join a group and heal the hell out of people

4-if ur a doc/combat medic ur useless in most areas of the game except specifically HEALING.







Sorry, but I'd actually like to ENJOY the game, rather than camping on Dath for the rest of my life.


And since when is a GAME supposed to be work? I don't mind waiting a year to open up my slot, but 600+ trips to the village, just to get 4 of the 6 needed trees (that's almost 2 per day for a year, for the math challenged), is pretty insane.


A combat profession can get all 6 branches in just over 100 trips. Call me crazy, but that's a bit uneven.




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ZeroK0ol
Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:39 am
#6


ok, Crazy (just kidding)


Dude, going out and hunting with a group IS part of the game. Getting Experiance for healing group mates, and resurrecting them (thats my prefered method, coz then u can rez, heal, and rebuff. talk about xp *grins*) is part of being a Dr.


As for the initial role of a Dr, the thought was for you to sit in a med center and heal those who need it. U KNOW that you have other means of getting xp for the conversion. Are you telling me you are a combat medic/dr? coz NO dr i know would pull that template. Its not a fun template by any means.


ok, so they raise the cap, woo whoo, u still have to do the same things to get that experiance dont you? so how does it change anything? you still have to camp and heal to get ur xp, now u just dont have to make so many trips to aurillia. U are STILL doing the same thing for the xp, make 1 trip to aurillia, camp it, and buff out of it, heal out of it, do everything u need to, out of aurillia. that will cut down how many times you need to go to it right?



Message Edited by ZeroK0ol on 08-27-2004 08:40 AM



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Rikilii
Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:42 am
#7






ZeroK0ol wrote:


ok, Crazy (just kidding)


Dude, going out and hunting with a group IS part of the game. Getting Experiance for healing group mates, and resurrecting them (thats my prefered method, coz then u can rez, heal, and rebuff. talk about xp *grins*) is part of being a Dr.


As for the initial role of a Dr, the thought was for you to sit in a med center and heal those who need it. U KNOW that you have other means of getting xp for the conversion. Are you telling me you are a combat medic/dr? coz NO dr i know would pull that template. Its not a fun template by any means.


ok, so they raise the cap, woo whoo, u still have to do the same things to get that experiance dont you? so how does it change anything? you still have to camp and heal to get ur xp, now u just dont have to make so many trips to aurillia. U are STILL doing the same thing for the xp, make 1 trip to aurillia, camp it, and buff out of it, heal out of it, do everything u need to, out of aurillia. that will cut down how many times you need to go to it right?




Message Edited by ZeroK0ol on 08-27-2004 08:40 AM






Yes, I agree....that's all fine, but you will max your xp in 30 minutes doing whatever it is that Docs do. On top of that, when is the last time anyone went hunting in a group? Who needs a doc to come with you, when you've got buffs and armor.


The point is, no matter how you chose to get Med xp,just to fill the 4 sense branches, you have to return to the village twice a day for almost a year to covert XP. The only real option is to camp there.


So my only point, is that the XP cap should be raised, not that the xp requirements should be reduced. Heck, they can just raise if for Master Docs, and Master CMs, if the unusually low cap (only 1.5 times the highest xp requirement) is there to make leveling more difficult.




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ZeroK0ol
Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:38 am
#8

ok, i knew ur point from the beginning.


my point however is that a dr shouldnt have it as easy as a combatant to hit jedi. could say personal opinion, but honestly a jedi is a combat profession, weather or not its moral, or meant to be that way. not my issue. thats the way it is.



and people are whining about how hard it is to be a jedi. and its NOT supposed to be easy. no, im not a jedi, yes, i want to and will eventually be.



Dr's already have one of the better conversion rates anyways, if you scream 'RAISE THE EXP CAP' all thats gonna happen is that it will be raised to 120k xp or so and then the xp conversion rate will be changed to be the same as a swordsman, and then ull cry 'MOVE THE CONVERSION BACK'


just deal with it, the system isnt broken, its fine. leave it alone. everyone cries and it winds up making the game worse. just live with the system the way it is, its not as bad as ur making it out ot be, it COULD be a hell of alot worse.


and crying usually makes it worse.



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Rikilii
Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:52 am
#9






ZeroK0ol wrote:

ok, i knew ur point from the beginning.


my point however is that a dr shouldnt have it as easy as a combatant to hit jedi. could say personal opinion, but honestly a jedi is a combat profession, weather or not its moral, or meant to be that way. not my issue. thats the way it is.



and people are whining about how hard it is to be a jedi. and its NOT supposed to be easy. no, im not a jedi, yes, i want to and will eventually be.



Dr's already have one of the better conversion rates anyways, if you scream 'RAISE THE EXP CAP' all thats gonna happen is that it will be raised to 120k xp or so and then the xp conversion rate will be changed to be the same as a swordsman, and then ull cry 'MOVE THE CONVERSION BACK'


just deal with it, the system isnt broken, its fine. leave it alone. everyone cries and it winds up making the game worse. just live with the system the way it is, its not as bad as ur making it out ot be, it COULD be a hell of alot worse.


and crying usually makes it worse.







I'm not crying about anything...I'm making a suggestion to make the system more manageable, both for players and, incidentally, the servers.


There's a post on another forum where people seem to agree that increasing XP caps for master, across the board, would be a good idea. The reason: because otherwise Dathomir is going to be unplayable.


50% of the player population will be camping on Dath. It's certainly not worth leaving, when pretty much any master profession can hit their xp cap in an hour or two.




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ZeroK0ol
Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:58 am
#10

ok, i can see that as viable.


if you had said that you wanted it across the bored it would have altered my arguements, not by much. because i think they should make the conversion rates harder on us. i think jedi should be extreamly hard to get. not just anyone can be a jedi is the way it should be.



ah well. ok, so ur not crying nerf just the dr cap, so what? i think the caps are fine and dr's are usually opinionated about subjects and so far you and i are the only ones who have talked ont his forum. so evidently alot of people dont think it should be changed, otherwise they would have said something




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IthArReLLe
Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:31 pm
#11

doc xp is incredibly easy to get dude, take a havala and buff 5 sets, instant 30k doc xp, you can take 4 havalas before you get full, so thats 120k xp




get a friend to help you out, a couple hours and you can get a line, just sit at arulia
BoveApako
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:41 pm
#12

You are totally forgetting about crafting xp.



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ZeroK0ol
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:26 pm
#13

lol, see i told ya if the dr community agreed with you people would be yelling at me.



deal with it dude. the xp cap is fine. not tryin ta be insultin but the xp is easy to get and the trips arent that hard.



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