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Thread: Approx. minimum stats of herb meat to make an ACRD just better than a reg CRD?

oiyan
Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:24 pm
#1


So I am hearing talk about veggie stims, but I tried it and couldnt break 390/40 and i was using top spawns. So either I am doing something wrong, or its not meant to break 400. As such, could someone who has tested this tell me the approx stats on herb meat that would need to get above say 25 power on an ACRD assuming nice class 4? I had some 700/300 meat and it got me p53 so I assume i can go much less than that.


Any help is appreciated, including how to do veggie stims/wounds if I am doing something wrong


btw power on liquids is 155 and abecs are 17/21

Message Edited by oiyan on 08-05-2004 05:24 PM



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aradz
Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:39 pm
#2

Nice ALS.

I consistantly hit over 60 on my ACRDMs, I use herb meat with 900+oq, and 500+pe. I think my last run was 64 power, if I'm not mistaken (had some really good Cl4 recently).



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oiyan
Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:44 pm
#3

k update on veggie stims. liquids were too low, i can actually get 184p liquids, must have been old stock of them


but still wondering on the herb meat



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12pt Master Architect/RIS cert Armoursmith/Artisan (Kauri Server)
Specializing in HQ heavy harvesters and HQ Armour
BER 13 heaves / CU armour - full suits or indv. pieces (in production phase)
Mangoville, Naboo at mango market [-5956, 2680],
12 point Architect, Armoursmith and Artisan


Cronan44
Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:15 pm
#4


you should be able to get 420 power with the 184 liquids and 19 power chems, most avd chems will be well over 30 power, even using crappy meats or class 4.

Message Edited by Cronan44 on 08-05-2004 08:16 PM





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Happymob
Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:29 am
#5

ACDRMs have a base power of 10 plus 0.65 per percent of experimentation (so a 10 to 75 range).


Since both herbivore meat and class 4 liquid have OQ and PE, the standard formula (66% OQ, 33% PE) applies to both. This makes it pretty simple to calculate the effect of different resource stats.


Since there is a total 65 point range in power, the Class 4 is responsible for up to 32.5 power. Same with the herbivore meat. Since OQ is 66% of this, Class 4 OQ (or herbivore OQ) is responsible for up to 21.67 power. Class 4 PE (or herbivore PE) is responsible for up to 10.83 power.


So every 100 OQ (from either class 4 or herbivore) contributes 2.167 power. Every 100 PE contributes 1.083 power. Start with your 10 base, and mix and match herbivore and class 4 until you reach your target.


As an example, say you have a completely average class 4 (500 OQ, 500 PE). This adds 16.25 power to the ACDRM. So you are are already at 26 power, even if you combine this with a 1 OQ, 1 PE herbivore meat.


As far as your veggie stims are concerned, you need a stronger ALS to break 200. On most servers, the resources are available to make 190 power ALSs. Kauri may be an exception (the spotty swgcraft.com data for Dantooine Berries shows one spawn of berries, Oovaev,that should get you over 180 power).



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Menoetius
Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:52 am
#6






oiyan wrote:


So I am hearing talk about veggie stims, but I tried it and couldnt break 390/40 and i was using top spawns. So either I am doing something wrong, or its not meant to break 400. As such, could someone who has tested this tell me the approx stats on herb meat that would need to get above say 25 power on an ACRD assuming nice class 4? I had some 700/300 meat and it got me p53 so I assume i can go much less than that.


Any help is appreciated, including how to do veggie stims/wounds if I am doing something wrong


btw power on liquids is 155 and abecs are 17/21

Message Edited by oiyan on 08-05-2004 05:24 PM






ALS - 184
CRDM - 19
ABEC - 15p/22c
Flora - OQ925/PE998
Metal - OQ960ish/UT970ish


equals = 44 charge, 412ish base Stim B.


Improving your ALS is the key to breaking your barrier. ALS is the single most determining factor in the overall base of the Stim. The maximum you can achieve with 1000 stat resources is 200 and 100% in the experimentation result.




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oiyan
Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:36 pm
#7

great ty



____________________________________________________________________________________
Oi-yun Cifo and Sizzlor-
12pt Master Architect/RIS cert Armoursmith/Artisan (Kauri Server)
Specializing in HQ heavy harvesters and HQ Armour
BER 13 heaves / CU armour - full suits or indv. pieces (in production phase)
Mangoville, Naboo at mango market [-5956, 2680],
12 point Architect, Armoursmith and Artisan


Kassuff
Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:43 pm
#8






Menoetius wrote:




ALS - 184
CRDM - 19
ABEC - 15p/22c
Flora - OQ925/PE998
Metal - OQ960ish/UT970ish


equals = 44 charge, 412ish base Stim B.


Improving your ALS is the key to breaking your barrier. ALS is the single most determining factor in the overall base of the Stim. The maximum you can achieve with 1000 stat resources is 200 and 100% in the experimentation result.






Are you plugging those numbers into a formula to figure out the end results? I'm just curious what would be the outcome would beif you used a 195 power ALS (I can make similar CRDM and ABEC)


mahir
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:00 pm
#9

The easiest way to get 400+ on veggie stims. Focus on the power on ABECS too. You have a high ALS/ACRDMs and good organics/inorganics.


I hit 400+ on Stim Bs with ALS 170, ACRDM 20, ABEC 25/14.



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