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Thread: Any way to turn off healing a mobs target?

jlones
Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:12 pm
#1



not relly sure how to put this but is it possible to somehow turn off the sytem where when your in combat with a mob and by using a heal you heal the mobs target.


i.e. 2 people and a stormie if the other person has argoed the mob if i target the stormie i heal the other person


as a tank doctor i have died a few time in combat when ive been tanking multiple mobs and lose hate on one of the targets and then when i try to heal myself i end up healing the other person


sorry if im not being clear of if a solotion has been posted serch seems busted

Message Edited by jlones on 07-19-2005 11:13 PM

MyT_Chicken
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:55 pm
#2

It's called Assisted Targetting and no you can't turn it off.




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Bermag
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:42 am
#3


If you are the target og the mob will you not heal yourself?


Yes, I agree this is annying. I died to Necrosis because I forget to use my macro healing (where I use heal self)




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MataHairy
Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:28 am
#4

The only known work around is to make macros - this is pretty straightforward for healing without an enhancer but more difficult for healing with an enhancer.


Example of a Self-heal macro:


/bactashot self;
or
/bactashot yourname;


Hot key the macro or drag it into your toolbar.


Now doing this with enhancers gets much more complicated. You need to have the enhancer in a toolbar slot (lets say its the F12 key, which is toolbarSlot 11). Your macro then looks like -


/target self;
/ui action toolbarSlot11;


Again, drag the macro into the toolbar or hotkey it.


Obviously a problem with all of these is the amount of toolbar space and/or combination of keys they take to activate. I think most of us would prefer that enhancers pull from the inventory (hmm maybe Ill start a poll on that).






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I8TheWorm
Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:08 am
#5



MyT_Chicken wrote:
It's called Assisted Targetting and no you can't turn it off.





Yes, but assists should only work if you're targeting a player, not an NPC. It's caused me a few incaps, because in large battles I don't really have time to determine wether or not the npc I have targeted is picking on me or someone else.



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gelfling_winterfell
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:47 am
#6

Auto-assist is beginning to drive me nuts.


Ihave more or less gotthe hang of how to heal myself in the middle of a mad battle but it's an uphill struggle because I often find the target switches before I've had the chance to action the heal..


However, this isnot only affecting my healing (and thus my enjoyment of the game)but it's also affecting battle. I targeted a played who was being hit by a ranged mob to heal him, that worked as designed but when I switched to hitting the mob next to him with my pike, I found my target had changed to the ranged mob that was hitting him from about 65m away! That has happened a few times now so I don't think I could attribute it to lag.


I haven't heard anynon Docplayers complain of this so I am beginning to wonder if something has gone really wrong with the auto-assist code for those of us who pair our Docs with a melee profession..? Can anyone confirm this?


...gelfling



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jlones
Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:56 am
#7









MataHairy wrote:


Example of a Self-heal macro:


/bactashot self;
or
/bactashot yourname;


Hot key the macro or drag it into your toolbar.


Obviously a problem with all of these is the amount of toolbar space and/or combination of keys they take to activate. I think most of us would prefer that enhancers pull from the inventory (hmm maybe Ill start a poll on that).




Great thank you very much ill give this a try tonight
itysko
Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:35 pm
#8






jlones wrote:









MataHairy wrote:


Example of a Self-heal macro:


/bactashot self;
or
/bactashot yourname;


Hot key the macro or drag it into your toolbar.


Obviously a problem with all of these is the amount of toolbar space and/or combination of keys they take to activate. I think most of us would prefer that enhancers pull from the inventory (hmm maybe Ill start a poll on that).




Great thank you very much ill give this a try tonight




this works well. i use in on my jedi to heal myself in necrosis killin. i am the tank of the group, but i can't seem to hold agro..haha...that is what needs to be fixed. the agro system. best tank in the game: tkm. but they can't hold agro and taunt don't stick all the time




sorry to see this game in its current state
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MyT_Chicken
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:59 pm
#9






I8TheWorm wrote:





MyT_Chicken wrote:
It's called Assisted Targetting and no you can't turn it off.







Yes, but assists should only work if you're targeting a player, not an NPC. It's caused me a few incaps, because in large battles I don't really have time to determine wether or not the npc I have targeted is picking on me or someone else.





Not sure you understand what Assist means...


Basically if your targetting a Mob, and that Mob is attacking your friend, it is going to automatically heal your friend, because he is "in danger" more then you are. Now I understand what your saying, because the Agro is still screwed up w/ multiple Targets, but honestly, the Assisted Targeting is really a blessing. Yes it takes time to get use to it, but it's really a very powerful tool.






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I8TheWorm
Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:24 am
#10

What assist actually means is if you have your friend targeted and attack, you attack whatever your friend is attacking.

That's how it works in every other MMORPG I've played that has implemented assist. That part works. However, you should either be unable to heal what the mob has targeted through assists, or have an option to turn it off.



Rimy the Shrubber

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RobbPilot
Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:48 am
#11

Yes, I haven't tried the macro route because my toolbar is already full and I've already remapped my mouse buttons to other things I need, but CTL-1 will save your life all the time. In some other games you can make yourself clickable, which helps healers a lot, but I don't know of a way to do that in this game.


Also, I find it much easier to target other players by their group icon box, instead of clicking them directly... not sure if most others do it this way too. I just don't like the way the direction arrows are working right now... I often end up moving in the wrong direction to get in healing range.


You can also target the MOB to heal a player or target a player you need to heal and attack the MOB, and that flexibility is nice. The only bad part right now is the range calculations don't seem to work quite right when you do that. You can be right next to a MOB and get out of range errors on melee attacks if you are targeting through another player who has moved away.


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