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Thread: Getting back to buffs crafting
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swabbster
Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:21 pm
#1
I havnt made buffs in a while. So I am wondering on whats good stats for the buff subcomponets such as ABECs, advanced Chemichal, and advanced Solid mechanism. Thankyou.
Nornerator
Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:59 pm
#2
Im not sure what is considered "Good" by the community, but I'll tell you what I am using, and it seems to be working.
ABEC 23 Charges/ 15 Power
ASDS 74 Power
ACRDM 65 Power
Ojes
Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:20 pm
#3
Nornerator's subs look pretty darn good to me. There isn't a lot of extra room for improvement other than the aCRDM, but it is tough to get enough herbivore meat to consistently hit numbers higher than 60...
ElPedroSG
Sat Jan 01, 2005 9:55 pm
#4
As a 12pt Starsider doc I'm getting:
ABEC
18 power 23 charges if I can be bothered experimenting for 3 hours just to make 6 schematics - 17 power 23 charges is quite easy.
ASDS
73 power
ACRDM
60 or so due the pants class 4 we have had for over a year now (unless I missed a good spawn)
Nornerator
Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:02 pm
#5
ElPedroSG wrote:
As a 12pt Starsider doc I'm getting:
ABEC
18 power 23 charges if I can be bothered experimenting for 3 hours just to make 6 schematics - 17 power 23 charges is quite easy.
ASDS
73 power
ACRDM
60 or so due the pants class 4 we have had for over a year now (unless I missed a good spawn)
Man thats nice power on the ABEC, Im only 11pt Doc, but Im pretty sure I wouldn't be able to squeeze out another 3 power on the power with 1 more point. You must have superior resources!
Thats the best power/charge combination I've ever seen!!!
ami2raw4u
Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:27 pm
#6
OK, Im frustrated here... Im a fairly new Doc and completely new to the crafting arena. I've seen the stats to the components being used here and mine are nearly on target to those being used by 12pt Docs, yet my final result is still quite low. I dont understand.... Im even using higher power ABECs. Can someone point out my mistake? Here is what Im using...
ABEC-23 power/11 charges
ASDS- 71
ACRDM- 60
Avian Meat- 922OQ 856PE 301FL 452 Decay
Reactive Gas- 972OQ 464 Decay
The result of this is 721 enhance 9696 duration and 92 med use. Im only crafting buffs for personal use, so I could care less about the med use attribute since Im master anyway. However, theenhancement and duration seem very low for the resources Im using... Anyone got any ideas as to why my results are so poor?
ElPedroSG
Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:53 pm
#7
You only need 10 points to max out the power of buff packs, but you need a great result for each experiment (I do 3 blocks at a time so if I get an amazing it will count as 4 greats). Make sure you are in a research city and either using a high end crafting station or a droid (no figures to prove but I would use a droid if the crafting station is below 42).
Use the buff calculator in the stickies at the top to add the resource stats you have and it will tell you what you should be getting with your current stuff.
ElPedroSG
Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:44 pm
#8
Seriously read the stickied posts so you know what does what with regard to stats/experimentation/end result. They are stickied for a reason, that reason being they WILL help you.
Some of the things they bring up are the OQ/PE relationship. Why you sometimes need good UT. What DR actually does.
Now when you read these posts before crafting they can be a bit ???????? depending on your learning style. Now you have done some crafting you will be like 'aahhhh' 'oooohhhh' 'gotcha' unless you have a really short attention/retention span/ability like me.
So to conclude, gas mark 4 for 30 minutes then rest for 5 minutes before serving.
Edited for spooling errors
Message Edited by ElPedroSG on 01-02-2005 10:46 PM
ElPedroSG
Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:45 pm
#9
Oh and the DR has no effect at all except on duration (strangely) - which is why you need to read the the blah blah.
ShakariPsy
Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:12 pm
#10
Nornerator wrote:
Im not sure what is considered "Good" by the community, but I'll tell you what I am using, and it seems to be working.
ABEC 23 Charges/ 15 Power
ASDS 74 Power
ACRDM 65 Power
hmmm what petro 4 and herb u using for that ACRDM's???
ami2raw4u
Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:11 am
#11
OK, thanks for the advice. Does the food Bespin Port really add that much to crafting? Like I said, Im new and ignorant to the subject. I've seen bespin port and its really expensive.
Kyreal
Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:43 am
#12
ami2raw4u wrote:
OK, Im frustrated here... Im a fairly new Doc and completely new to the crafting arena. I've seen the stats to the components being used here and mine are nearly on target to those being used by 12pt Docs, yet my final result is still quite low. I dont understand.... Im even using higher power ABECs. Can someone point out my mistake? Here is what Im using...
ABEC-23 power/11 charges
ASDS- 71
ACRDM- 60
Avian Meat- 922OQ 856PE 301FL 452 Decay
Reactive Gas- 972OQ 464 Decay
The result of this is 721 enhance 9696 duration and 92 med use. Im only crafting buffs for personal use, so I could care less about the med use attribute since Im master anyway. However, theenhancement and duration seem very low for the resources Im using... Anyone got any ideas as to why my results are so poor?
when you craft, if you get anything less than a great success, just end the process and start over, a good success ruins the power.
also with your ABEC's being strong in power but weak in charges, dont expect your buffpacks to be much more than 20-24 charges at most.
the decay resistance on both the avian and reactive are poor, this will weaken your overall power of your buffs also, which is why your duration is lower than 10k seconds. try to get an avian with stronger DR to maximise your power and duration.
but mainly i think the reason your only in the 700's is because a good or lesser sucess has snuck into your crafting.
Keldaria
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:07 pm
#13
Hmm Abecs are at 16 power and 24 charges
ASDS are at 73
ACRDM are at 67
Reactive has 988 PE
and Avian is 987 OQ427 PE
and still i'm turning up with 801 max power even experimenting effectivness out with 12 points .. any suggestions ?
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