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Thread: UT matters more than PE in all Stim's and Stim Components

nky335
Sun Aug 03, 2003 3:11 am
#1

The following applies to the "Inorganic/Chemical" material slot. I am not sure about the "Organic" slot yet.


I've tried this with all the different components and with different kinds of materials. In the schematic, it says that PE matters twice as much as UT. It is exactly the opposite. With the subcomponents, I used tworesources of almost equal OQ and then almost matching values of UT and PE. With the final Stim's, I used factory-made subcomponents, and then ditto with the 2 resources. Here's what I found:


Biological Effect Controller: Usinga Metal (950 OQ, 900 UT) in the Inorganic slot makes a better prototype than using a Radioactive (950 OQ, 900 PE)


Chemical Release: Using a Fiberplast (980 OQ, 500 UT) in the Chemical Slot makes a better prototype than using a Petrochem (980 OQ, 500 PE)


And same thing applies to final Stim assembly. Using a metal is better than using a petrochem/radioactive.


Don't argue without trying this out for yourself. You can benchmark quality by jotting down the initial percentages it increases in experimental effectiveness etc (before you experiment with it). The difference is very significant.

AndyIEG2
Sun Aug 03, 2003 5:07 am
#2

aye i noticed the same!


also using Wood for Rivive Kits will result in lesser charges/power than using Fiberplast!

Elenora
Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:18 am
#3

I have noticed that the game is a little more friendly to certain resources as inorganics and organics...


the game seems to love fiberplast and polymers, seeds and berries, aluminum and copper...


dislikes wood, radioactives and irons....


wondering how the new changes to crafting will effect this...the new patch on test server has made things just depend on OQ and PE....


the effects of that has yet to be seen....




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PoisenLoaf
Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:53 am
#4

I've noticed this as well. I'm guessing it is probably because the schematic does not take into account PE on an Inorganic like it does for the Organic component.


i.e.


Organic component uses OQ and PE
Inorganic components use OQ and UT (even if they have PE instead of UT like a fuel)





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ogreb42
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:27 am
#5

That all makes sense. Here's why i think it makes sense, though. The schematic lists all those values for what effects the quality of the outcome. Lets say, for example, you're making a chem release duration mechanism, which requires primarily overall quality and potential energy. The crafting system only needs each statistic on one of the components used- if you use a organic with OQ 900 and PE 900, and then an inorg with OQ 900 and no PE, the final product is based on OQ 900 and PE 900. However, if you include an inorganic that has an OQ of 900,but a PE of, say, 200, your final combine will be based on an OQ of900 and a PE of 550. I dont have direct confirmation on the numbers, but they definately fit my observations- using the same organic, I get significantly higher quality combines before experimentation when i use an inorg with no PE and OQ similar to the original material's. This would seem to apply to any stat- as long as you have one raw material that satisfies each of the requirements listed in the schematic, you're golden. Having more than one causes their values to be averaged. Not having a stat on any of the materialsseems to cause the system to assume a value of zero.
Sarnon
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:53 am
#6

Been testing the new Med Schematics and Experimentation all week on TestCenter. It is nice they have thrown out duration (how long does a stim last? *grins*).


Here is the scoop for the upcoming patch =>


1)Components have only two things to experiment on: Charges & Effectiveness.


2)Meds above A&B levels include Ease of Use


3) Charges: 2/3 Overall Quality and 1/3 Unit Toughness


3a) Dispersal Mechanism (both regular & advanced) modify effectiverangeat the same time based on: 1/3 Conductivity, 2/3 OQ


4) Effectiveness: 2/3 Overall Quality and 1/3Potential Energy


4a) Resilence compound splits this 60/40, not 66/33.


5) Ease of Use: 2/3 Overall Quality and 1/3Potential Energy



Hope this helps.




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DarkWraith65
Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:54 am
#7

What NurseBetty said is correct. It averages the OQ of the two and looks to organic for PE and inorganic for UT.



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