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Thread: Advanced Stim B versus Non-advanced

adagiogray
Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:20 am
#1

By advanced I mean using the off-world rare resources for the advanced sub-components.


I've spent the bucks. I've placed some borrowed heavies on talus/dantooine/lok/tatooine.


Is it worth the trip fare and hassle in the end? Are the advanced components worth it for stim Bs?


Also, I'm cranking the components from my one factory at 1000 per run.


Should I bother making NON advanced stim Bs to sell? Or should I offer both? what are considered average prices for both types?


Jingo9
Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:52 am
#2

advanced blows non adv out of the water.

They also cost a lot more to make of cause. Are they worth it comes down to what you want to do, casual play for your own use? maybe not, anything else? yes, selling? yes.

Average price? no such thing due to huge variations in quality. 2k is a good price for a top quality fully advanced stim B, but i do mean top quality, not just good.

Standard average quality advanced B's go for around 1k.

If you want to make a decent but cheep B, use advanced LS and normal other parts, this limits your off world reqs to talus and dantooine, but more importantly, Adv LS adds a ton to your heal value and only uses 6 of each resource (clearly a bug) which is the same as the normal LS.



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DrKaldar
Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:02 am
#3

What's considered Top Quality compared with Good and Average? I currently make stim B's for my friends to use and they are around 320 heal and 25 charges.



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Jingo9
Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:06 am
#4

you'd need someone on your server to answer that, different resources mean different quality stims.

On eclipse, any 400+ heal B is top quality, i make up to 420 which is the best out there.

Anything 350+ can fetch 1k tho there's people selling cheeper, probably more 370+ for 1k

If you were on my server i'd sugest trying to shift yours at 500 credits and see how it goes, the charges are 10 down on top stims also which effects it a lot.



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Xx_Predator_xX
Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:16 am
#5

Location plays a big role too. I can sell 250 heal 28 uses stim b's on endor for 3k. I could get maybe 500-750 for those on a starter planet. Check the bazaar if theres no stims there you can charge a little more.



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AloraSnowmaiden
Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:29 am
#6

I know using just Advanced BEC and Liquid Supressions I can get 323/29 heals and I sell those at about 850 each in a crate or 1000-1200 on the bazaar... about to find out how much higher heals I'll get this week when I get enough herb meat from using all 3. I know anything over 350 is considered good... luvhandles frequently posts a formula he uses to determine pricing based on heals and charges.



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Pecos
Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:51 am
#7

I've been selling mine on Dantooine for 3k each. I actually went around and bought up all the advanced stims in the area for about 1500 each and resold them for 3k! People on advanced planets will pay that, especially off the bazaar.


I sell them for about 1500 on Corellia, though. At that price they don't move fast, but my philosophy is that I would rather sell 20 stimpacks for 1500 each than 100 stimpacks for 800 each, because selling 20 means I don't have to run all over the galaxy collecting thousands of resources.


Basically as long as my business pays for itself and pays for my own stims, I'm happy.


I figure all the people selling for like 1k will eventually get sick of doing a ton of work for a relatively slim profit margin and they'll quit doing it.


Starphire
Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:14 am
#8

adv is AWSUME..



of course you can just make normal ones and save yourself the cash and sell em cheap and make just as much money




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AloraSnowmaiden
Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:33 am
#9

Well, let's see, if you get yourself an organics/inorganics dealer that sells at 4c/resource for the good stuff or enter a trade ring where you only bother mining one thing and then trade for the rest of the stuff, you don't need to worry about the hassle of running around and tending harvestors at all those planets and paying for moving the harvestors and traveling (unless you enjoy this aspect of the game of course)


Then you could afford to sell at 1k a stimpack with a very tidy profit. From memory I believe the final stim is 12 organic/12 inorganic/BEC/LS/CD... now using advanced comps I think it's around 18/18 org/inorg.. adv bec's might be 24... let's just round to 20/20 for each of the 3... so total resources rounded up is 140, so if you do use all three advanced and sell at 1400 a piece that's over 200% profit. And if you're making B's in the low 300's with only 2/3 advanced comps like I often will do, and selling at 850, you still make a very nice profit.


Try the architect industry some time, then you'll be thrilled with doctor. Hell, I think my doctor skills helped me get to be a master architect selling stims.




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adagiogray
Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:38 am
#10

Hehe. Actually, I *do* play a master architect.. doc was my first character, but i ended up raising the architect to master first. And i dont undercut.


I have been using 2/3 adv components and hand cranking singles that i can sell on the bazaar for 850ish rather rapidly...


Although what seems to sell JUST as well are action, health, and other wound pack Bs.



I'm just wondering if I can't eke out a little more.


My ABECs are power...uhh... 20 i believe, 11 charge...


My adv liq suspare 109 power...


My chem releases(regular non adv)are 12 power, i think...


Can't recall off-hand what i end up with, though.


I experiment ALL power and if i have any points left, toss em in charges.


Keep in mind, I'm only doc med craft level 2, so my experiment points arent nearly what they would be if a master doc were making them.


There's another point to discuss... Return on investment for experimenting POWER versus CHARGES on stim/wound components. I was thinking power was where it's at, but more charges may yield more... Your thoughts?



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ScitzoX
Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:28 am
#11

Funny to see all those people all experimenting in power just to get the magic number 400.


My B's never go under 37 charges, i think its stupid to make a stim with a +10 baseheal and -10 charges

adagiogray
Sun Oct 05, 2003 12:07 pm
#12

400? I'm struggling to hit the magic # of *300*. The max I can get my stim Bs to hit, even with adv BECs and AdvLiqSusps with power 109 is about 283 after maxing experimentation on power(and the advanced resources that i usearent horrid). My chem releases are the regular variety, but then again, i dont feel like hunting down 18k worth of herbivore meat to do a 1k run of adv chem releases. The stimscome out 29-32 charges, depending if i had 'amazing' results on my power experiments, and a leftover point or 2 to toss into charges.


Where am I going wrong here? The PE ofa lot of my stuff was in the 800s?



Ailad'enea


Master Surgeon, Lowca



evilgrinwi
Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:29 pm
#13

You can hit 400, it's not imporssible! I hit it frequently now. Last night I made a batch of 31/424 heal Stim B's.However, you need to do some shopping around to find some seriously good resources. Be ready to pay because most sellers know how important it is for OQ and PE for Doctors. I bought some Lokian Wheat that has 760 OQ and that is just insane...because most of it sucks out there (that I have seen). I also paid 4k for 500 as well. When I go shopping, I probably spend 200k for resourcesincluding travel costs, etc. I posted elsewhere in the forumon the stats on my components, but from whatI remember...


Adv Liq - 173 (that's the best I've gotten..usually it's 169 or 161)


Adv BEC - I think it's like .. 16/13 maybe? I think it's higher


Adv Chem - 53


For the meat, I justdo some /yell at the startport asking if people are sellling herb meat in bulk. WhenI find someone that is selling thathas good OQ, I'll ask them to look meup if they are selling again. Herb meat is the most dificult because people have to be hunting it. The rest is easy because it's harvested. It's just a matter of looking and asking around.


I hope that helps!




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