Doctor Archive
Thread: Holy 50K Buffs Batman!
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Menoetius
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:39 am
#27
Sunakk wrote:
But the other resources aren't going to change price. If you're looking at cost of a buff pack with mediocre avian versus the cost of a buff pack with awesome avian--and all the other factors are the same--then it is simple to figure out how much it costs to buy the avian meat at such a high cost. There's a thread in this forum with charts about just this thing.
Menoetius wrote:
Bad_Bad_Leroy wrote:
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Some Docs on Eclipse are buffing at that price...knowing people have to buy'em.
I'm a TKM/Doc...I may have to consider those prices...
...considering insane rangers charge us 250CPU for Avian Meat.
At 250 cpu, it costs you just 1325 credits more to buff a person than at 10 cpu. High Avian prices do NOT justify a +30,000 credit increase in buff prices.
>>> Read here for details
Your analysis lacks the cost for the other resources involved.
The cpu price on herbivore meat has the same problem as avian meat. For one to justify if 50k a buff is acceptable one needs to factor in all the costs involvedand not single out one resource as the cause for the increase.
As avian meat priced at 100 cpu does not translate into a 50k per buff price. Even an avian meat priced at 400 cpu does not justify a 50k buff. Only when you begin to factor in all costs involved that you start to begin to justify increase the price per buff.
I don't enhance in cities as a source of income, I am in the manufacturing side.
Sevardos
Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:43 am
#28
Sunakk wrote:
But the other resources aren't going to change price. If you're looking at cost of a buff pack with mediocre avian versus the cost of a buff pack with awesome avian--and all the other factors are the same--then it is simple to figure out how much it costs to buy the avian meat at such a high cost. There's a thread in this forum with charts about just this thing.
Menoetius wrote:
Bad_Bad_Leroy wrote:
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Some Docs on Eclipse are buffing at that price...knowing people have to buy'em.
I'm a TKM/Doc...I may have to consider those prices...
...considering insane rangers charge us 250CPU for Avian Meat.
At 250 cpu, it costs you just 1325 credits more to buff a person than at 10 cpu. High Avian prices do NOT justify a +30,000 credit increase in buff prices.
>>> Read here for details
Your analysis lacks the cost for the other resources involved.
Yes. Yes they are... and they have. All Doctor resources have gone up - from Herbivore meat to Tatooine Fiberplast and Lokian Wild Wheat (10 to 20 cpu). If you don't have the lots to harvest new spawns yourself, you're going to pay a hefty price for it. I've seen Reactive Gas sell for 50 cpu. Class 4 Petro for 50 to 100 cpu. And the list goes on. Especially if your server hasn't seen a high quality spawn in that particular resource - that was the case on Bria for Class 4 until recently.
The who Avian meat debate and pricing has basically taught players that they can charge higher prices for Doctor resources - and get it.
If my capital costs are going to increase due to having to pay more for meats and resources, then it will reflect on my retail price - and it won't be a 1-to-1 ratio either. All my pricing is based on a pre-set profit margin %.
I personally don't have an issue with the prices and don't blame hunters for raising prices. However, everyone needs to face the facts that If prices go up, so will my retail price. Conversely, if prices go down, so will my retail prices.
I also sell a lot of buffs in the 825 power range. But, as mentioned previously, the higher power buffs sell much much faster. Ironically, unless you PVP - you will not see a difference between a 700 power buff and a 900 power buff but you won't convince the average players of that - it's a perception thing that you won't break.
It's like trying to tell someone that you can't tell the difference between a 2.3 speed weapon and a 2 speed weapon. But that same person will swear up and down that they have super-human powers and can measure the difference of .3 seconds. /shrug
It's a perception and ego thing.
nerf_you
Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:56 pm
#29
On Shadowfire buff prices are in the 10-15k range. Now I've just made a couple sets of nice Janta buffs (991 power 13230 duration) and I've been considering to take them to the starport. I'm wondering if people will pay 50k/set for +2725 buffs that last 3hr40min ???
While we're on the topic of avian meat prices, on Shadowfire out-of-shift meat is going for 300-500cpu depending on the stats. We've just got a good spawn of Naboo avian meat (957OQ/812PE/903DR) and I've been paying 150cpu for it.
ZeroK0ol
Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:32 am
#30
is it just me or are the more active dr's on the forums from Bria? i see me, jirob and servados a ton around here. others too but non off top of my head
-Leonidas-
Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:35 am
#31
Skuzz wrote:
50k buffs ?!?! Lol! Thats hilarious. That wouldn't swing on Lowca thats for sure. Our buffs go for 8-10k with the occasional chump trying to charge 12k. My advice to you would be to use a better source for your avian meat. 250 credits a unit is just silly. =)
Man Ahazi's minimum is 12k anyone under isnt a master and trying to grind lol but for 2500 hit buffs expect to pay 10-12k
WaspBlade
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:06 am
#32
Guess we've got the most populated server tho
ZeroK0ol wrote:
is it just me or are the more active dr's on the forums from Bria? i see me, jirob and servados a ton around here. others too but non off top of my head
Vegitaa
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:42 am
#33
OnlyMaestro wrote:
Some Docs on Eclipse are buffing at that price...knowing people have to buy'em.
I'm a TKM/Doc...I may have to consider those prices...
...considering insane rangers charge us 250CPU for Avian Meat.
As a TKM/Doc myself, isn't it just easier to pick up Scout with Exploration 1 and go harvest your own Avain meat? With Pub 10 coming up the name of the game is maxing out exp now. I'd say Scout exp, Crafting, Medical, Combat, and Unarmed will server you well.
Personally, I refuse to pay those kinds of prices for something I can get paid to go get myself. (Get missions and go hunt what you need and harvest it). Crafting Buffs is not my cup of tea either but it's better than paying through the nose to the ranger/scout community.
It's all about Customer Service. If Rangers inflate their prices then stop using those rangers. Go find a buddy/guildie/newbie and get a trade deal setup with them. At one time I had 3 scouts that were gathering that high oq dantooine herb meat for me. They were happy with free buffs and 5 cpu. Not a bad way to cut out the middle man.
OnlyMaestro
Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:09 pm
#34
I see a problem when a WS can simply find a good resource spot, and drop 10 harvies down and milk it to death.
It is much harder to get organics, and if I were to hunt it...considering flewts and such give like 10 meat per kill...to get 100,000 meat (basically what you need anymore) would take...
...10,000 kills?
/sigh
...that's with novice scout only, no hunting line.
WaspBlade
Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:56 am
#35
OnlyMaestro wrote:
I see a problem when a WS can simply find a good resource spot, and drop 10 harvies down and milk it to death.
It is much harder to get organics, and if I were to hunt it...considering flewts and such give like 10 meat per kill...to get 100,000 meat (basically what you need anymore) would take...
...10,000 kills?
/sigh
...that's with novice scout only, no hunting line.
get a harvest doird....
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