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Thread: Master Doc in the CU can't even use highest level Meds!?!?!?!

SinfulDoom
Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:06 am
#14



I would have to agree with Obata. Although I am totally totally upset with the CU and can find very few changes I like in it I dont think Marrow "endorses" it. Maybe Marrow doesnt want to end up on the "pink slip" with SOE like the AS correspondent was and be known as the shortest employed correspondent to date.


Now, MyT_Chicken on the other hand... Just kiddin MyT, You have a right to your opinion as well. Havent heard from you in so long I thought I would lighten the mood with a /poke.




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Message Edited by SinfulDoom on 04-22-2005 02:08 AM

Message Edited by SinfulDoom on 04-22-2005 02:09 AM



- I support keeping & playing the game I purchased prior to the CU. I'm just another Victom of the CU. Dev's are like diapers, they need changed often for all the same reasons. R.I.P. SWG
Marrow1
Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:42 am
#15

Wow, those are some rather large twists of my words.


Lets face the facts.

If you hate crafting and all you want to do is heal in the battle field and not be bothered with anything else then yes it is unarguable that the CU doctor is a better system. There I have said it. The CU is a better system..... for that kind of play style.


For all the other play styles that I and many others have enjoyed the CU isNOT a better system.


As a Corr I can not just make post after post about the doom and gloom of the doc prof. It would get old very fast and the fact is that I have gotten several PM's asking for me not to do so. There are many people who can not stand all the negative posts on this forum.


Therefore, I have chose to take on a role of collecting the issues and bringing them up in as many "more likely to be read by Dev" forums as I can.


The issue of this thread "med conversion" has been taken up in both the Corr forum and the CU test forum. I have kept them both on the front page and will continue to do so until I see change.


Take a quick look at my sig. I am one of the oldest and largest med crafters on my server. I will be loosing in the ball part of 500 mil due to the CU (about 1 mil units of high end avain, 2 dozens resouce deads, 20 factories filled with other resouces, etc). Believe me I know the pain being brought up in this and many other threads.


When you take on the role of Corr you can not just speak for those who dislike XX you must also speak for those who like XX. You also most tone down your own feelings about things so that you donot overly influence the people you are trying to represent.







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_Nightrunner_
Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:59 am
#16

Stimpacks are actually used by grunts in the military. There is no medical skill required to use it. It is just a needle you shove into your skin. It can make sense that you would have to be a fairly fit and hefty person to handle the larger stimpacks. Im just trying to rationalized, I mean it does make sense. A grunt cant make a stimpack but what skll does it require to pop a needle in someone?
Marrow1
Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:15 pm
#17






VTmoon wrote:

I agree with you again on the Crafting part, I'm a hardcore crafter who is getting shafteed too. But the post I made was regarding the "Thug" being able to heal better than a master doctor. You just stated the healing in General was a better system even though a non doctor can use a better stim than me a master doc.


I also don't want you to end with a pink slip, and I understand that you have to show support in general to the new stuff or you might get axed if you don't do it in a manor they like. And I'm going to give the CU (doctor part of it) a chance because you asked us too and I'm hoping it will myself.







No, I dont really have to show support because of SOE. In fact if you read my posts regarding the CU before I became a Corr you will find that they were all focused on bashing the CU. Yet they still apointed me. I want to show some balanced reporting of the Doc community so I can not just spout off my own personal views. Most docs have come to use this forum as thier crafting forum. Therefore a high percent of those that come here are crafting docs. There are many docs who buy meds that never come to this forum that will like the CU doc.


I have made a request that as a Doc we be given a cert to use StimD's regardless of our CL. That would fix this odd issue where we can not use StimD's as a master doc. I think it is just a quirky thing about the CL and not something designed. Remember, that you do not need to use Stims, however. I believe that Becta Jab will be stronger than any stim once it gets fixed. With that said I would still like to see a doc be able to use a StimD regardless of the CL. I can see times when you will want to heal your partner with a Becta Jab and then quickly heal yourself with a StimD.








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____[*aka Fringing, Babwe, Hurtz *]____

__/\_/\___/\_____[last of the known Doctor Correspondents]/\___/\_/\__
VTmoon
Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:41 pm
#18






Marrow1 wrote:





VTmoon wrote:

I agree with you again on the Crafting part, I'm a hardcore crafter who is getting shafteed too. But the post I made was regarding the "Thug" being able to heal better than a master doctor. You just stated the healing in General was a better system even though a non doctor can use a better stim than me a master doc.


I also don't want you to end with a pink slip, and I understand that you have to show support in general to the new stuff or you might get axed if you don't do it in a manor they like. And I'm going to give the CU (doctor part of it) a chance because you asked us too and I'm hoping it will myself.







No, I dont really have to show support because of SOE. In fact if you read my posts regarding the CU before I became a Corr you will find that they were all focused on bashing the CU. Yet they still apointed me. I want to show some balanced reporting of the Doc community so I can not just spout off my own personal views. Most docs have come to use this forum as thier crafting forum. Therefore a high percent of those that come here are crafting docs. There are many docs who buy meds that never come to this forum that will like the CU doc.


I have made a request that as a Doc we be given a cert to use StimD's regardless of our CL. That would fix this odd issue where we can not use StimD's as a master doc. I think it is just a quirky thing about the CL and not something designed. Remember, that you do not need to use Stims, however. I believe that Becta Jab will be stronger than any stim once it gets fixed. With that said I would still like to see a doc be able to use a StimD regardless of the CL. I can see times when you will want to heal your partner with a Becta Jab and then quickly heal yourself with a StimD.




so we should give it a chance to become better.





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VTmoon
Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:29 am
#19






Obata wrote:





VTmoon wrote:





Obata wrote:





VTmoon wrote:





Marrow1 wrote:





VTmoon wrote:





SinfulDoom wrote:

besides doesnt it seen a little odd that a 60+ lvl "thug" could apply a med that a well trained doc couldnt?



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haha, but like the devs and the COrrospondent said, give it a chance it's a better system, lol.



Please provide a quote where I said it was a better system.





http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=88996#M88996





I don't see him saying that he thinks the CU is a better system. As someone who has read his posts on the CU forum, I'd be very shocked if you were actually able to quote him saying that.








"There was a very fun game before and during the buff era. I am hoping there will be a fun game after the buff era. " - Marrow1






How is that remotely the same as calling the CUa better system? I think some of you are looking for an outlet for your anger and have chosen to take it out on the Corr.





okay let me clarify what I mean when I say CU, as a doctor the CU means to me the changes that happened to doctor, I'm not saying marrow said anything about sniper shot of rifleman being changed.


All am Saying is Marrow stated that we should give it a chance before we doom it, that was the whole point of the reply to the original poster and it was said in general.


Lastly, who said anything about being angry. It was a simple disscuison and I don't believe angry was involved at any point of it. I personally think you are trying to make us look like we are attacking the correspondent and making him look like a victim, but again I don't posses a physiology degree to analyze what you are thinking based on a simple post.




Mono Noke
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.......:::: DarkLord of The Troll Order ::::.......
.......:::: Colonel Of the Imperial Army ::::.......
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VTmoon
Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:48 am
#20






Marrow1 wrote:

Wow, those are some rather large twists of my words.


Lets face the facts.

If you hate crafting and all you want to do is heal in the battle field and not be bothered with anything else then yes it is unarguable that the CU doctor is a better system. There I have said it. The CU is a better system..... for that kind of play style.


For all the other play styles that I and many others have enjoyed the CU isNOT a better system.


As a Corr I can not just make post after post about the doom and gloom of the doc prof. It would get old very fast and the fact is that I have gotten several PM's asking for me not to do so. There are many people who can not stand all the negative posts on this forum.


Therefore, I have chose to take on a role of collecting the issues and bringing them up in as many "more likely to be read by Dev" forums as I can.


The issue of this thread "med conversion" has been taken up in both the Corr forum and the CU test forum. I have kept them both on the front page and will continue to do so until I see change.


Take a quick look at my sig. I am one of the oldest and largest med crafters on my server. I will be loosing in the ball part of 500 mil due to the CU (about 1 mil units of high end avain, 2 dozens resouce deads, 20 factories filled with other resouces, etc). Believe me I know the pain being brought up in this and many other threads.


When you take on the role of Corr you can not just speak for those who dislike XX you must also speak for those who like XX. You also most tone down your own feelings about things so that you donot overly influence the people you are trying to represent.





I agree with you again on the Crafting part, I'm a hardcore crafter who is getting shafteed too. But the post I made was regarding the "Thug" being able to heal better than a master doctor. You just stated the healing in General was a better system even though a non doctor can use a better stim than me a master doc.


I also don't want you to end with a pink slip, and I understand that you have to show support in general to the new stuff or you might get axed if you don't do it in a manor they like. And I'm going to give the CU (doctor part of it) a chance because you asked us too and I'm hoping it will myself.






Mono Noke
.......:::: Proud ex-Leader of Oasis ::::.......
.......:::: DarkLord of The Troll Order ::::.......
.......:::: Colonel Of the Imperial Army ::::.......
- Bike Repair, Perfect LS Tools @ Crystal Oasis Dantooine, -4295 6915
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