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Thread: The most rediculouse Avain meat auction I've ever seen

DFA-FrstbyteOO
Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:55 am
#14

Im just glad I still have 10k or so of Pisro and dont have to pay the ridiculous prices "yet"




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Menoetius
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:23 am
#15






Reza95 wrote:

omg, 550cpu!??!? come one, meat's jus meat. mebbe we should all complain and get them to lower the buffpacks 22/28 units. current avian meat on lowca is 100/120 cpu now... no way can new doctors afford that price








I agree.



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BrJLa
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:48 am
#16

That price is nothing. If that's 15,400 for just the health pack, that's only 513 per charge if you get 30 charges. So even if you use this meat for the Action buff, you're looking at a total cost per buff of 2,530. Now, you don't want topay that much (along with the cost of all the other resources) if you're going to be buffing the public for 10K a pop. But there's nothing wrong with that price if you're crafting to sell to PvP'ers, or to buff yourself and your guild.



Sevardos
Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:11 am
#17






BrJLa wrote:

That price is nothing. If that's 15,400 for just the health pack, that's only 513 per charge if you get 30 charges. So even if you use this meat for the Action buff, you're looking at a total cost per buff of 2,530. Now, you don't want topay that much (along with the cost of all the other resources) if you're going to be buffing the public for 10K a pop. But there's nothing wrong with that price if you're crafting to sell to PvP'ers, or to buff yourself and your guild.







To say that price 'is nothing' is silly posturing. All the complaints on this forum have beenpricing forbuffing to the public - not custom buffs you sell at the high end to people like Janta blood packs. Are people complaining about the cost of Janta blood buffs??? - no,because it doesn't effect the majority of the player base and Janta is considered a premium item.


Although I do support paying Rangers and hunters well for meat (especially Avian because its a royal pain to harvest), this is more of excerise of who had the bigger e-johnson and not what is a fair price. The problem is,these types of events have a trickle down effect and will now raise the base level of Avian pricing, which will raise the cost of buff packs, which raises the costs of public buffing prices, which leads to more angry pricing threads.






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Ledao
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:04 pm
#18







Sevardos wrote:





BrJLa wrote:

That price is nothing. If that's 15,400 for just the health pack, that's only 513 per charge if you get 30 charges. So even if you use this meat for the Action buff, you're looking at a total cost per buff of 2,530. Now, you don't want topay that much (along with the cost of all the other resources) if you're going to be buffing the public for 10K a pop. But there's nothing wrong with that price if you're crafting to sell to PvP'ers, or to buff yourself and your guild.







To say that price 'is nothing' is silly posturing. All the complaints on this forum have beenpricing forbuffing to the public - not custom buffs you sell at the high end to people like Janta blood packs. Are people complaining about the cost of Janta blood buffs??? - no,because it doesn't effect the majority of the player base and Janta is considered a premium item.


Although I do support paying Rangers and hunters well for meat (especially Avian because its a royal pain to harvest), this is more of excerise of who had the bigger e-johnson and not what is a fair price. The problem is,these types of events have a trickle down effect and will now raise the base level of Avian pricing, which will raise the cost of buff packs, which raises the costs of public buffing prices, which leads to more angry pricing threads.










Really, anyone buffing the public has no business using meat this good. Resources of this quality are generally irreplaceable. BrJLa is exactly right, that price is nothing. It it were on my server, it would be significantly higher, because there is more than one doctor that understands the value of avian meat that good.


Further, prices for high-end items (in any field) have absolutely nothing to do with prices for standard items. The rise in in-shift avian meat prices has quite a bit more to do with increased competition for hunters -- from chefs and BEs especially -- than it does with the prices fetched by old and rare spawns.



If you aren't selling enhance packs, there is really no reason to participate in (or worry about) the auctions like this on the boards. There is almost alwaysa lesser meat that can be had for well under 100 cpu, and in-shift prices haven't changed much in the last few months...


(edit) Also, that auction is for a really small amount of meat, which helps to inflate the price... 10k is barely enough to bother making a run of packs with...


Message Edited by Ledao on 07-22-2004 01:07 PM



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BrJLa
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:06 pm
#19

Shwoo...Talk about a strong opinion. Silly posturing? I didn't just say it was nothing, and leave it at that. I actually pointed out a logical reason why I think the price is reasonable. The only posturing I did is in trying to sound populist by saying you wouldn't use it to buff the public. Why wouldn't you?


It was 10Kof meat. Enough for 65 packs, or more. At 30 charges a pack, at 10K a buff, that's 20 million credits. Why not spend 5.5 million on meat, to make 20 million credits? And given that you can turn that meat into buffs that will hit for over 2500 for 3.5 hours or more, I wouldn't be shy about charging 15K a buff, which would bring you 30 million.


Even if you just sell the packs at 30K each, you'd still make 12 million.


And even if, as you say, "All the complaints on this forum have beenpricing forbuffing to the public," so what? A "reasonable price" is not determined by what YOU would do with it. It's determined by what everyone else who might be interested in it would do with it. I, personally, would turn it into packs that I'd try to sell at 40K each. I'd only need to buy about another 1 million of resources I don't already have on hand. So I'd have to spend a total of 6.5 million, to make 15.6 million back. This is not unreasonable. Or posturing. Or an e-johnson contest.
Ledao
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:09 pm
#20






BrJLa wrote:

Shwoo...Talk about a strong opinion. Silly posturing? I didn't just say it was nothing, and leave it at that. I actually pointed out a logical reason why I think the price is reasonable. The only posturing I did is in trying to sound populist by saying you wouldn't use it to buff the public. Why wouldn't you?


It was 10Kof meat. Enough for 65 packs, or more. At 30 charges a pack, at 10K a buff, that's 20 million credits. Why not spend 5.5 million on meat, to make 20 million credits? And given that you can turn that meat into buffs that will hit for over 2500 for 3.5 hours or more, I wouldn't be shy about charging 15K a buff, which would bring you 30 million.


Even if you just sell the packs at 30K each, you'd still make 12 million.


And even if, as you say, "All the complaints on this forum have beenpricing forbuffing to the public," so what? A "reasonable price" is not determined by what YOU would do with it. It's determined by what everyone else who might be interested in it would do with it. I, personally, would turn it into packs that I'd try to sell at 40K each. I'd only need to buy about another 1 million of resources I don't already have on hand. So I'd have to spend a total of 6.5 million, to make 15.6 million back. This is not unreasonable. Or posturing. Or an e-johnson contest.







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DarthXanthic
Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:44 am
#21






Greenbulb wrote:





Ledao wrote:

Heh, that's nothing.










NOTHING?????


500+cpu is NOTHING?






Hmm, lets see, he bought 10k of avian for 550cpu = 5,500,000.


Wooo. He probably makes that in a day, if not 4x that.


I helped my friend run 1,000 sets of the best buffs Bria ever has seen.


He spent roughly:


200,000 herb @ 75cpu = 15,000,000


and


150,000 avian @ 250cpu = 37,500,000


Then he sold out 1,000 sets @ 180k a set = 180,000,000


I can't believe doctors complain about prices.


Our meat was only 937/973/600ish, I'd have paid 1000cpu for the stuff in that auction.


DarthXanthic
Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:47 am
#22






Reza95 wrote:

omg, 550cpu!??!? come one, meat's jus meat. mebbe we should all complain and get them to lower the buffpacks 22/28 units. current avian meat on lowca is 100/120 cpu now... no way can new doctors afford that price







Who says new doctors are entitled to the best resources?


Work your way up, spend the time/money to gather the best resources.


You work for everything in this game, why does everyone want everything handed to them.
Reza95
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:57 am
#23

yes i do agree with you... just because a rich merchant offer the market for 100+cpu meat so that people can stock up her vendor in rder for her to sell them at a much inflated price later just means the merchant is manipulating the market. Praise the merchant, boo the doctor, right? simple as that too... but in the end, who coughs up the creds? oh well, like i always say it's jus a game





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Reza95
Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:58 am
#24

tat was a big booboo..



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DarthXanthic
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:05 pm
#25






Greenbulb wrote:





DarthXanthic wrote:





Greenbulb wrote:





Ledao wrote:

Heh, that's nothing.










NOTHING?????


500+cpu is NOTHING?






Hmm, lets see, he bought 10k of avian for 550cpu = 5,500,000.


Wooo. He probably makes that in a day, if not 4x that.


I helped my friend run 1,000 sets of the best buffs Bria ever has seen.


He spent roughly:


200,000 herb @ 75cpu = 15,000,000


and


150,000 avian @ 250cpu = 37,500,000


Then he sold out 1,000 sets @ 180k a set = 180,000,000


I can't believe doctors complain about prices.


Our meat was only 937/973/600ish, I'd have paid 1000cpu for the stuff in that auction.








Just because you can make that much does not mean you will buff all day for how many hours? good greif if i buffed all day like that i'd need to go to therpy just for stress releif.




Nope, sold the sets on a vendor.


The hardest part was loading them onto it


Nema0879
Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:38 pm
#26






DarthXanthic wrote:


Nope, sold the sets on a vendor.


The hardest part was loading them onto it








I HATE that part .... somtimes i wish i'd hired a merchant instead of having a merch alt to do everything for me ....




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