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Thread: Good Bivoli???

Visnja
Sat Aug 07, 2004 9:43 am
#14

I have +24 bivoli, which is almost gone. I found a vendor that was selling +25 .. so I bought some. I've only got an increaseof 10, that's it. Somehow I was thinking I'd get at least 50 orsomething in that range. If +24 is cheaper than the +25 .. I'm buying it. 10 isn't a big deal.



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Li3n0
Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:34 am
#15

I much prefer a longer lasting +23/+24 buff - especially as I do "low end" buffs (2200 ish for 8-10K) - just can't justify the extra 100k for +25 when it only lasts 8mins or something ridiculous. I've seen chefs selling +25 that hardly lasts long enough for more than 5 buffs (7 or 8 mins) and still charging ludicrous amounts more than long lasting +23s.



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rgrocott
Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:27 pm
#16






KillaJohn wrote:
Hi,
I'm a new Master Chef on Bria and was wondering if you guys could let me know what good bivoli has for stats so that i know whether or not to make some with my current resources.

Thanks




I'd say 'good' Bivoli would be something like +24, 3 uses, 14min duration (more if poss). 3 uses is KEY, as everyone else has said - if you only have 2 uses, you're basically selling 2/3 what the 3-use Chefs are selling, and you have to price appropriately.


The best Bivoli that I was aware of on Bria (may have been improved on since) was +25, 3 uses, 17min duration. That was using Olen greens (best ever greens on Bria) and Viwoh Carnivore meat (1000 OQ, 900+PE IIRC), if you wanna check up on SWGCraft to compare stats. I think I was hitting that with +116 BE additives (no point using higher ones, see below).


Be aware that your decimals don't matter. +24.00 is the same as +24.99 - for this reason, the BE additives you use are important - you may need to invest in 'uber' additives to get to the next whole number, or you may be able to save money by using mediocre additives with no decrease in performance.


I got a bit carried away there, I guess a response like this is more suited to the Chef forums. Sorry

Message Edited by rgrocott on 08-09-2004 01:38 AM



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rgrocott
Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:37 pm
#17






Jedi2k wrote:

But does current experimentation limit bivoli to a +25 cap, 3 use cap and around 15-16 minute cap?


Pretty sure the 'theoretical' cap is +26.4, or something around there. However, I don't know if any server has had the required spawns to actually make +26 Bivoli. I was capping out at around +25.8 with some awesome resources, but I'm sure +26 is possible.


I don't mine the+24 at all it;s the 3 use and 15 min usage that i would liked to see increased i don't see why foods and drinks are different. I'm not a chef so i don't know the ins and outs of making them


so how come a brandy can be made to last 46 mins or so and a bivoli 15 mins and canape 10 mins?





As far as your general comments are concerned, that's just the way the Devs made it. Each food has a different range of possible durations, and uses per item. I'm not sufficiently au fait with game design to have an opinion myself on why the devs chose the numbers they did, but on the whole it seems to work quite well. I suspect they didn't intend Brandy to be as powerful as it is, though...





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Fleura_MD
Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:41 pm
#18






Jedi2k wrote:


so how come a brandy can be made to last 46 mins or so and a bivoli 15 mins and canape 10 mins?






Well Brandy is a drink not a food like bivoli and canape. All the foods wear off faster than the drinks.


My 2 cents-

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Damcon
Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:41 pm
#19






glorydragon wrote:




Darkblade101 wrote:

i use +25 3 uses







how much do you pay for them?





I usually pay 200k for a crate of 25 with 25+, 3 uses




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Jedi2k
Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:47 am
#20

I love my Bivoli +24 3 uses around 15 minutes


But does current experimentation limit bivoli to a +25 cap, 3 use cap and around 15-16 minute cap?


I don't mine the+24 at all it;s the 3 use and 15 min usage that i would liked to see increased i don't see why foods and drinks are different. I'm not a chef so i don't know the ins and outs of making them


so how come a brandy can be made to last 46 mins or so and a bivoli 15 mins and canape 10 mins?



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VTmoon
Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:27 pm
#21






Jedi2k wrote:

I love my Bivoli +24 3 uses around 15 minutes


But does current experimentation limit bivoli to a +25 cap, 3 use cap and around 15-16 minute cap?


I don't mine the+24 at all it;s the 3 use and 15 min usage that i would liked to see increased i don't see why foods and drinks are different. I'm not a chef so i don't know the ins and outs of making them


so how come a brandy can be made to last 46 mins or so and a bivoli 15 mins and canape 10 mins?






each food or drink is different, the devs have set a certain limit on them, so the chef has to work with those limits.




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Jirob1
Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:59 pm
#22

I got +25er 3 uses from 100k-200k on Bria


Still looking for a 100k supplier of crates.hehe



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Jedi2k
Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:08 pm
#23






Fleura_MD wrote:






Jedi2k wrote:


so how come a brandy can be made to last 46 mins or so and a bivoli 15 mins and canape 10 mins?






Well Brandy is a drink not a food like bivoli and canape. All the foods wear off faster than the drinks.


My 2 cents-

Fleura_MD Bria






Just wish that the stomach contents would empty out as fast as the benefits do LOL



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