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Thread: Have D Buffs gotten Lower in the last week or is it me?

Vinaddar
Sat Jan 17, 2004 4:36 am
#14

What really has me nervous is if they add in the buff overwrite capability--which we do want to counteract enhance-A griefing--but then use it as an excuse toleave the enhance-D's landing as low as they are rightnow. I am not gonna try 20 times to get one good action or healthbuff for anybody, myself included.


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Cry4Dawn
Sat Jan 17, 2004 9:24 am
#15






Dencur wrote:
/agree

This past week, something bad has happened to enhances. I dont know if its a "fix" or if it is just a change of coincidence. My buff packs used to be about 700 power, and I would nearly consistently buff for 1000 or better. Just recently I came across some good reactive gas and avian, and now they are 860 power.

Even though its more power, I consistently buff for the same range as the 700 power packs that I used to have. What do you all think?

Zalor? You have any comment on this? Has this happened to you in the last week as well?

Thanks for bringing this up, its really aggreviating me and my PA. They think I use crappy stuff, but that is not the case.




This is exactly what is happening to me in the same time frame



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dunkan44
Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:12 pm
#16

I feel better now, I thought it was just me, I was raging when my 800+ enh packs where hitting under 1k



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OnlyMaestro
Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:34 pm
#17

I'm like you Trai, I have more fun with other aspects of the game than resource hounding.


My base 700s, which hit for average 1200+ usually aregood enough for me to solo (Master Heavy Swordsman)

That's my money maker.


But I'm dopping Master Doc to go 0/2/4/0 so I can try other classes too.




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Iwow
Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:53 pm
#18






Traigus wrote:
Anyone have any real numbers?

I need numebrs if I'm gonna pester the dievs with this. I can't jsut show up and say "Players think buffs are landing lower." Becasue they aren't gonna stop and check after every patch (peopel say it after every patch and hotfix).

I don't mean use 1 buff pack 2 times either.. I mean a lot of numbers, with the same level pack.

I'm not seeing anything more then the normal wacky variance on my characters... But I don't use the best materials ever, like many people here do... I tend to use what's available at the time. I'm not into stockpiling really good stuff. I ahve other hobbies.

I can't do anything with 12, 5 post threads saying "hey it feels lower..."

-T





it will do no good for me to go wasting my hard earned and collected resources to hand you a stack of numbers so they can say "we didn't silent nerf you." they will never amdit that these extra things you get from cities just put you back where you should be in the first place.

Sipura
Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:53 pm
#19

Havent noticed any change however im using 900 buff packs and +191 wound treatment after clothing, avg bout 2k buffs with few 3k, my best buff occured yesterday on dathomir, 3100 health, 3200 action, 3100 con, 3000 stam, 2400 str, 2200 quick.



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Sistere
Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:53 pm
#20

*looks up* And they say the wound treatment only goes up to 25+. Sure it does


As for numbers you can tell the folks that I was consistantly doing buffs over 1k with my last 10 lot factory run of Enhance D's - this had been the case for the last 2 months - sinceI had gotten my 110 med droid (battery for each set of buffs), crafted these packsand picked up my +25 BE clothes. I had not gotten an under 1k buff in ALL OF THAT TIME. Over the past 2 weeks or so I am nowgetting under 1K buffs. This has not happened.. like I said in avery very long time.


Like I said in another postthe lowest pack is/was 897. Now I don't know if it is related, but I have been doing my buffs in PC pretty much all the time now, and it is happening (being lower now) so much that I am happy.. **edit**.. estatic when I get 1 or 2of the 6 over 2k.


Am I having a bad run of luck? Possibly.. but it is a run that is 1) consistant and 2) been going on for almost 2 weeks now.


Anyhow.. hope this information helps.




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Traigus
Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:43 am
#21

Anyone have any real numbers?

I need numebrs if I'm gonna pester the dievs with this. I can't jsut show up and say "Players think buffs are landing lower." Becasue they aren't gonna stop and check after every patch (peopel say it after every patch and hotfix).

I don't mean use 1 buff pack 2 times either.. I mean a lot of numbers, with the same level pack.

I'm not seeing anything more then the normal wacky variance on my characters... But I don't use the best materials ever, like many people here do... I tend to use what's available at the time. I'm not into stockpiling really good stuff. I ahve other hobbies.

I can't do anything with 12, 5 post threads saying "hey it feels lower..."

-T



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Vinaddar
Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:45 am
#22

Traigus--I have been using 897 base buffs and in roughly 180 applications this past week have hadapproximaetely 60% of them at or below 1600, with maybe 1 in 5 below 1000. Last night was the first 3k buff i have seen all week, and i'd estimate the average to be 1500-1600 max. Buffs of 2500+ are about as common as those below 1000.


It has been over a week that the enhancements have been low, but I wasn't buffing much before and had thought it was just a bad couple shots while I was making new components for a new batch of meds. The previous poster who said 11 days is probably right about the timeframe.


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Pthdora
Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:32 am
#23

OK, U want number ask anyone of the Praetorian guard...before the patch i was AVERAGING 1500 thats high and low of 6 came to 1500 average...now im lucky to average 900, thats a low number to me...same packs same everything, new battery every time, that numbers since the patch ive buffed almost everyone in my huiuld at least once if not more...and several ppl out at fort tusked...and I hear awww crap alot more than i used to, hell ive had to kill and rezz my guildies alot more than ive gotten to play with em bcause face it folks buffs are broke....



These numbers should show u....if u really want to see the huge variance then fine Ill write EVERY single buff I do today down and post them..name...location...6 stats...and hell even you if they said nething to me about it, nice and neat for you devs...just so theres no excuse of why u arent fixing it when the greater majority say something is broken chances are they arent just whiners...I would say about 80% of docs are saying hey something is wrong here...that overwhelming majority there shouldnt even be an argument...Devs should just look at the forums, and go crap its broke...whats the problem...additionally wheres any dev response on this issue...Thunderheart what u got to say about this....




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Mccloud83
Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:44 am
#24

as of about 5 days ago and before I was averaging in the mid - high 2k's per buff with about at least one 3k buff per person. some people would get as high as 4 or 5 3k buffs. All my buff packs are 894-914 power. With 25 wound enhancement clothing... bla blah blah... these last couple of days using same buff packs clothing and everything I have had some people i hit high on but most of the time ive been hitting in the 1k's which is a bad buff for me. My buffs have seemed dramaticaly lower on average the last several days I thought it was just me till I saw this. I even mentioned it a coupel times a day or two ago to some friends on my server..... There has deffinetely been SOMETHING WRONG. Devs please takea look at it. I spend a LOT of time getting the absolutely best resources I can to make this high of buff packs to keep up my good reputation and now its getting ruined by something completely out of my control.



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Traigus
Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:39 pm
#25

No, you don't have to write all your exact buffs down. I needed peopel liek you who coudl produce number ranges and averages that had some statistical validity (over months etc.) Which you have provided.

These posts are pretty close to what I need.

Ok.

What I'm going to do is start a new thread, with a list of info I need.

Please respond there, with what you have (Please if you have replied here already, reply again in that thread.)

-T



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None2Soon
Sun Jan 18, 2004 1:55 pm
#26

I can't give you any data over time but with 800+ power Ds and 90MU I usually get 1600-2600. I recharge my droid before buffing and have +24 BE clothes. It's very rare to hit sub-1K (one stat in 4-5 people) and never in streaks of more than two individual buffs. I just logged into my doc for the first time in 3 days or so and hit myself with 6 <1000 buffs from the same packs I've always used (all 880-960). I won't be buffing again until I hear something. Needless to say, if it went back to the numbers I'm used to I'd be happy with that kind of variance...



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