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Thread: AFK Tumblers

scour_sf
Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:00 am
#14

i macro everything i do image design, doctor, creature handler tka, pistol you name it i have a macro for it an if anyone wants my macros i give them to them, the funny thing is i am always at my keyboard but i always have the afk above my head an i rarely answer anyone so as far as you know i am not there an for all you cry babies whining out there why did SOE even put macros in the game or email for that matter SO WE COULD USE THEM an send them to our friends DUH jeez if anyone is enfringing on gameplay it is all you jerks an cry babies whining out there interfereing with mine. if i want to afk dance in the cantina an sit at my keyboard an chat with my friends thru tells while i am in a big party then so be it what do you care your getting more xp off me anyways for having me in party why would you boot me why cause i wont talk to you maybe i am a introvert maybe i dont give a rats butt about you maybe i am roleplaying an you havent introduced yourself politely there could be a number of reasons I LIKE TO POWER GAME i dont like to just sit back an do one profession for 3 years geez i like to try them all out then decide which one i want to go back to so please get off our ass about the afk crap enough is enough




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BeaverDive
Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:28 am
#15

There was a player in the bestine med center yesterday with a macro on and they were tumbling for a good four or five hours I believe. I'm not gonna lie, I healed the player if there wasn't anyone else in there, but when an actual person came in and needed their wounds healed, I took care of them first. After I signed off and went back on, there were now like five or six medics in the hospital, and every one of them were healing the tumbler. I heard one medic say they got about 150k medical xp sitting in there healing the person.



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slabby
Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:49 am
#16

You forgot to read the rest of the thread. You know, include the part that's actually from a developer and not a community relations person.


The designers are working on ways to make AFK entertaining less desirable. I'm not sure where they are in the process.


In the meantime, I agree with most of the posters here. Don't tip AFK entertainers. If you have a choice, watch/listen to a non-AFK entertainer instead of an AFK one. Whenever possible try to role play with Entertainers. It keeps you both engaged and is a good way to learn about local news/legends.


The true purpose of a cantina is a meeting place where you will more than likely run into other players and learn from them or start groups with them.


Kevin "Q-3PO" O'Hara
SWG Community Relations Manager


Apparently, the dev's don't like it either.


Thank you and good day,





Kalsion Ri'Tay: Gunfighter Extroidinair
slabby
Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:50 am
#17

Actually not a dev, but from a higher up. He just said the dev's don't like it.



Kalsion Ri'Tay: Gunfighter Extroidinair
Lomy
Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:25 am
#18

thing is it would be hard to tell weather the macro being run is by someone being afk or not because with the /ui action toolbarSlot## command it does the same as if you were to push the F# button, so how would you differenciate? and as well a simple macro could be made to say 60 different things every two minutes or so, and you would have to wait for 2 hours to be able to tell if it is a macro or someone just saying different things, AFK macroing.. eh, dont care, but i macro while at the computer, so where is it against the rules or 'wrong' to do that?.. i dont tip AFK entertainers and if i am able to i prefer to find a non AFK entertainer and i do tip them. but its nearly impossible to find, and when i need my batfat and mind healed quickly before a raid i not gunna sit there and search for one too hard, macros are a way to make life easier, Today i got most of the medic tree ( except organ chem ) while i sat here talking to the person who was tumbling for me in my house. i am not gunna waste my time and money healing in the cantina/med center, my gametime is limited, i work 8 - 10 hours a day, so when i am on, i want to make the most of my time available, as for people in the med center, i have 0 wound packs at the momment so i am of no help to them, and i aint about to inflict wounds on myself to MAYBE get a tip from some person who just walks in demanding heals, .. as for people who state that grinders are taking your resources.. psh... no self respecting master doc would use grinding resources for their craft, and thats my 2 credits
Lomy
Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:29 am
#19

another side note, the DOCTOR FAQ!! i read, gives a macro of a way to BUFF while afk. now, which is worse, helping wittle medics while afk, or taking MONEY away from docs while afk?
slabby
Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:04 am
#20

Nobody said anything about grinding resources. AFKing makes professions very easy to get and doesn't weed anyone out. More people then drive the prices of the resources up, are use them and waste them on Tumble Monkeys so they get max XP. Nothing about it helps the game in any way, shape, or form.


AFKing completly ruined the Entertainment profession. Ask one of them about it.


I wish people AFKing would just lobby SOE to let them play Jedi from the start, instead of defending this ridiculous style of play. You don't want to play the profession, I don't want you to play it, we both would be happy.


As far as people who "have limted time and want to get the most out of their playing time" well I have limited time and have been perfectly happy working my way up at my pace learning about the game and world I play in. If you think a Doctor is boring at Novice, it will be boring to you at Masterbecause you are doing nothing any different. 3 months in and I've mastered nothing, and had fun every minute of it until our "December Gifts" and I had to start running around in a world of zombies.


The only reason that people want to level fast is for Jedi, or to have "Uber Bad Mamma Jamma" Character in a day so they can go hunt Krayts, Holos, or whatever people are doing this month. I feel the amount of time actually spent "playing" the game should be what levels you up. Period. The fact is, casual gamers will eventually catch up to everyone, which is what's brilliant about the system. If someone puts more work in (time spent playing) then they should be rewarded for it. If someone plays 24-7 and survives on Jolt Cola and pixie sticks, then they deserve to be a Uber Character and I do not. It would be selfish of me to think I'm entitled to do the things they do playing 30 minutes a day. I think respect, honor and work ethic should mean something, no matter what you are doing, entertainment or not. AFKing is a poor work ethic in general, and if people can't grasp that concept, then I think there are a lot bigger problems than this game.


How bout that for an answer.





Kalsion Ri'Tay: Gunfighter Extroidinair
Bhelly
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:27 am
#21

"AFKing is a poor work ethic in general"


This is a game! People want to play the game differently. For you, becoming a Jedi is not top priority. For others it is and they will do what it takes to get there.


Because you are against AFK'ing doesn't mean others are. If another person believe's AFK'ing is legitimate and it is not against the rules, than it cannot be consideredpoor work ethic. They'resimply using the tools available at their disposal.


If my job was to move a stove from my living room to my kitchen:


Person A = Pushes it a few inches until 1 week later he finally gets it to the kitchen.

Person B = Uses a dolly and rolls it into the kitchen in 5 minutes.


Who has poor work ethic?


Well that depends on what the rules and your goals are.


If the rules stated you could use anything to move the stove:


and


your goal was to get stronger:


You would probably choose to be person A, but person B hasn't done anything wrong either. You really shouldn't judge him/her for how they accomplished the task. Their goal might have been to move the stove as quickly as possible so they could cook dinner for their spouse.


However, if the rules stated you could notget any help:


Then person B would be considered a cheater and in my opinion people have a right to judge him/her.



Onye
JasonK
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:48 am
#22






slabby wrote:

You forgot to read the rest of the thread. You know, include the part that's actually from a developer and not a community relations person.


The designers are working on ways to make AFK entertaining less desirable. I'm not sure where they are in the process.


In the meantime, I agree with most of the posters here. Don't tip AFK entertainers. If you have a choice, watch/listen to a non-AFK entertainer instead of an AFK one. Whenever possible try to role play with Entertainers. It keeps you both engaged and is a good way to learn about local news/legends.


The true purpose of a cantina is a meeting place where you will more than likely run into other players and learn from them or start groups with them.


Kevin "Q-3PO" O'Hara
SWG Community Relations Manager


Apparently, the dev's don't like it either.


Thank you and good day,






Less desirable does not equal against the rules. Sorry, but them not liking it and it being against the rules are two entirely different things.




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JasonK
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:49 am
#23






MyT_Chicken wrote:

I will let the TOS speak for itself.


7. You acknowledge that you are bound by the terms and conditions of the Software License and Limited Warranty that accompanies the Game. You acknowledge and agree that you have not and will not acquire or obtain any intellectual property or other rights, including any right of exploitation, of any kind in or to the software, artwork, music, and other components included in the accompanying CD-ROM (the "Software") or the Game, including, without limitation, in any character(s), item(s), coin(s) or other material or property. You may not use any third party software to modify the Software or to change game play. You may not create, facilitate, host, link to or provide any other means through which the Game may be played by others, such as through server emulators; additionally, you may not engage in matchmaking for multi-player play over unauthorized networks. You may not decrypt or modify any data transmitted between client and server; you may not use or distribute macros or other programs which would allow unattended game play. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load (as determined by us) on our infrastructure. You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Account or any Game characters, items, credits or copyrighted material or any other intellectual property owned or controlled by us or our licensors.


So choke on that.








I'll choke on it as you as you find an SOE rep that says the in-game macros are against the TOS. I've already found one that says itis NOT. Suck on that.



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JasonK
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:52 am
#24






slabby wrote:

You forgot to read the rest of the thread. You know, include the part that's actually from a developer and not a community relations person.


Kevin "Q-3PO" O'Hara
SWG Community Relations Manager






LMAO @ you. Community Relations Manager isn't a community relations person? What a freakin retard.




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satanis
Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:05 am
#25

If your happy running around healing an adventuring party and getting medical XP, your happy.

Why does the choice of another player to stand somewhere you most likely will never be or meet again doing something you personally chose not to do, make you unhappy?

If your happy doing your thing - get on with it and let everyone else do theirs.



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GarVa
Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:14 am
#26



Starting threads knowing that they will cause arguments or flames is called trolling, please do not do it. Some people will agree and some disagree, and thats fine but to keep bring this up over and over just to "gloat" in someone's face that its not technically "wrong" does not help the issue either way.

Message Edited by GarVa on 01-30-2004 10:16 AM





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