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Thread: Sad experience

Cailid010
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:26 am
#14

I healed a tumbler for some of my exp but I did it in our player city, not a med center. When I was in the med center I would heal wounds or do some crafting while waiting for patients to show up



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Hendlefe123
Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:20 am
#15

Well.. when I was grinding doc using a tumbler I stayed on the main floor (considering Bestine only has one story). However, I healed people who were wounded at the same timesince they are both on different timers... I mean its experience right?




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1StarNinja
Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:20 am
#16

First tiem around doing Doc alot of the time I spent running around in front of the Coronet Starport with my bot healing wounds. You've got the people in line waiting for buffs (comign back from some adventure planet for a refresh on buffs) who have wounds like mad. The docs who were buffing there appreciated it, as it took a bit of aload off of them (They could now buff faster and save their wound packs for other times). I frequently got tips from BOTH the docs buffing and also from those who I was healing.


For the times when I didn't feel like checking peoples wounds in front of the Coronet SP, I did heal Tumble Monkey's in the Med Ctr there, but as soon as I saw somone come in the door I'd stop the tumble monkey healng till the person who came in was healed up.


Made almost as much money as I spent.


The second time around though I just tuumble monkey'd my other account in Nashal where nobody was as my main objective was just to get Doc back as ASAP and wasn't worried about the money then.




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Obata
Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:00 am
#17


I can't understand why everyone does the tumbler healing in med centers. You can do that anywhere, so why sit in med centers? I surprise a number of people who decide to go doc, or start a second toon as a doc when they ask me about tumble healing macros and I reply that I never had one because I never healed a tumbler to level. It's as if leveling by actually playing the game is never done anymore.

Message Edited by Obata on 04-16-2004 02:11 PM



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DoctorGriggs
Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:09 am
#18



bazookabo wrote:
I personally dont agree with tumbling, so if I find that a medic is neglecting other patients for a tumbler, i *help* the tumbler with his action costs out: a 2200 3 hour quickness enhancement, FREE!!!!
that gets the medic healing wounds again. And all that comes out of it is a hate for me
EDIT: Stay in school, and learn to speak : )

Message Edited by bazookabo on 04-15-2004 09:35 PM





LOL I thought I was the only one that did this

I remember grinding medic and doctor the old way - healing and treating wounds. I remember spending countless hours fighting other medics/doctors to throw the wound heals on the black-barred fighters as they came back in



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nerf_you
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:39 pm
#19

On shadowfire the tumblers have moved from the coronet med center to right in front of the starport. So now as if spamming every 30 seconds wasn't bad enough, they spam the hell out of the combat log. I'll have to try giving them a quickness buff tonight.

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cairnsb
Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:48 pm
#20

personally when I was lvlin Doc, I healed tumblers, and had a good set of Wound Packs ready in case someone walked in and needed healing.



Healing the tumbler and the wounded more then doubled the average XP i got.


FeartheLettuce
Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:05 pm
#21

The problem with healing wounds, and this is definately an issue, is, healing wounds isnt worth it. Thats right, the XP you get from wound healing can't compare to healing tumblers. When you heal tumblers, you can get small ammounts of xp very quickly, say 50xp every 5 seconds. When healing wounds, you get more xp, but it comes much slower, say 200 every 30 seconds. If you heal wounds while grinding, in 1 minute, you can get 400 xp, when healing a tumbler, you can get like 600. I made up these numbers, but you can get the idea. Actual numbers would be higher on both, with a bigger difference in xp per minute. To solve this, tumbling needs to have a wait added... why would you need to tumble in rapid sucession to use the move properly? OR wound healing XP needs to be raised, to make it worthwhile. Another big problem is what the public thinks of wounds. When I was grinding medic, people would come into the hospital and ask for their wounds to be healed. The problem was, most of them had like 30-50 wounds maximum, definatly not worth the xp, and defiantly not worth using a pack on. As a doc, when I buff the public, I get asked if I can heal wounds a lot.Being a TKM, I dont need woundpacks for myself, so I dont carry them around. If I did, healing wounds has the same wait as buffing. If I buff a guy, and heal all his wounds, it could take twice as long to take care of him, factor in the 50-60 people that I sometimes buff during a session, which usually takes 2-3 hours, and I may end up staying there for 4-5 hours to get the same ammount of money.



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FuschiaD
Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:21 pm
#22






Flynn_Nomad wrote:



Its the oldest topic in the book dude. Its not what you get, but how you get it logic.


I got my experience healing someone who was using a game-given function that takes action. It's the exact same thing as healing dancers.


It's obviously a method that was not intended by the devs and is in fact going to be fixed in the combat revamp.


Which is fine. It's not something I was dependent on. It was just quicker, and my guild needed a doctor.


Example, you and I roll up in 2 brand new escalades, you bought yours off a stolen credit card.


I worked a whole year to save up the down payment for mine while you sat on your ass by the pool thinking of a way to get a stolen credit card.


I really dont like you, you can appreciate that right?


Uhm.... you don't even know me, and that example really didn't make much sense to me.


I do think its thoughtful of you to go upstairs and not spam the room,seriously.


Spam the room... with what? I wasn't healing people who sit in the med center and tumble for whoever happens to need med xp. These were two guildmates who were doing it specifically for me to gain experience. They were willing to sit and do nothing for three hours while I was grinding doctor.


Because that is part 2 of the reason why a lot of Doc's dont like tumblers.


Kinda kills the RP factor, like rancors and AT ST's used to do when they roamed the med centers.


Oh, please. Grinding is not an RP thing. Sure, I can pass it off as "medical school" but the fact is, I needed to master doctor.


Its just respect dude, you do what you feel is right, but dont bother others. And from what you wrote, you get that part of it at least.


I am really big on respecting everyone, no matter what their profession. And I have NOTHING but respect for docs, having been one myself. I know what kind of garbage you guys put up with, and would never want to be one of the people the docs hate. Being an image designer, I know what it's like to take flak for your chosen profession.


Question though, why cant you and your tumbling guildmates do it in your guildhall or your houses or something, or a camp. Just curious.

For the sole reason that we all happened to be IN Theed. I had also healed tumblers sitting inside my cantina. My goal was not to neglect people in genuine need of medical attention; but rather to make way for docs who are there to heal wounds. I could hear everything that went on downstairs. Anytime I heard someone say "can someone heal my wounds" more than twice I'd go downstairs and patch them up.




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MoxieCorbantis
Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:43 pm
#23

I'm another doc who got his experience "the old fashioned way".


Personally, I'd be happy if people just took their tumbling out of the med centers as some others have suggested here. I used to enjoy healing and chatting in the med center even if I didn't need the experience. Now, I don't even feel like going in to the med centersanymore for all the afk tumbler-spamers.


Evenwhen I put them all on ignore (my ignore list is huge btw) I think fewer of the genuinely wounded even look for healing in the med centers anymore: they know that it's just full of afk medics. The tumbling exploit has ruined what used to be an enjoyable aspect of the game for me. I'm encouraged that some folks are reporting that it might get fixed.





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PsychoZid
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:05 am
#24

Yes it is true, not many do doc the ole fashioned way, my self included. Yes I healed the tumblers in the medi center(s) but I never looked away from those in need. So to you, the starter, if you dont want to sell to medics/doc's in the med center do reconsider as I always strived to heal someone in need, contact Daohor in game if no one wants to heal you, and I will promptly say if I am around to heal you.


As for the rest of the players, I wish you all would tip us for healing you sure the xp is good but once we reach master doc, I am still working on the crafting part, we dont need the frikking xp any more, and well buying and maintiaing our resource supply isnt exactly cheap these days, recently I hear avian meat going for as high as 200 CPU, which is simply out rageous, as stated in another thread, I guess I most have missed the place that give out 5mill CR to you once you master doc. So, dont get me wrong, stop whining about not getting treated ofcourse those that did ignnore you,definitly dont deserve the time of day. But you as a patient is always more important to me rather than some tumbling monkey no matter how much XP I can get of them that way.


Flynn_Nomad
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:33 am
#25






FuschiaD wrote:

Out of curiosity, why the hate for tumblers? I don't agree with ignoring the wounded to tend to the tumbler... but I leveled doc using two guildmates who tumbled for me for two straight hours. We did it on the top floor of the med center though, away from the main room. It's a wonderful way to get medical xp, and I know that if a doc came along and buffed the quickness of my tumblers to keep me from getting xp, I'd be pretty ticked off too. I justcan't see the logic of this.








Its the oldest topic in the book dude. Its not what you get, but how you get it logic.


It's obviously a method that was not intended by the devs and is in fact going to be fixed in the combat revamp.


Example, you and I roll up in 2 brand new escalades, you bought yours off a stolen credit card.


I worked a whole year to save up the down payment for mine while you sat on your ass by the pool thinking of a way to get a stolen credit card.


I really dont like you, you can appreciate that right?


I do think its thoughtful of you to go upstairs and not spam the room,seriously.


Because that is part 2 of the reason why a lot of Doc's dont like tumblers.


Kinda kills the RP factor, like rancors and AT ST's used to do when they roamed the med centers.


Its just respect dude, you do what you feel is right, but dont bother others. And from what you wrote, you get that part of it at least.


Question though, why cant you and your tumbling guildmates do it in your guildhall or your houses or something, or a camp. Just curious.




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