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Gastlichu wrote:
Are you guys all mad just because you will no longer be able to make the millions you were making for buffing? And you think that was healthy for the game?...

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Gastlichu wrote:


I'm a master doctor myself. I never bought a buff, and I always gave my buffs away for free to guildies, friends, and whoever I saw needing one. I never had a combat profession, I'm master doctor and master IDer, all the money I made was doing mission with guildies and friends. Playing the role of a healer. This change will just improve the role I was already "playing" (not AFK botting outside of a spaceport).

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Message Edited by Gastlichu on 04-26-2005 12:24 PM

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Message Edited by Jalinsol on 04-26-2005 09:08 PM

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Jalinsol wrote:

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Gastlichu wrote:
Are you guys all mad just because you will no longer be able to make the millions you were making for buffing? And you think that was healthy for the game?...

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I'm not one to flame, but dude, you're seriously misinformed. At least, on Radiant this wasn't the case. A full series of buffs cost 700k. That was for 136 charges total. It took roughly 10 days to use those up (10 playing days, so figure about 2 weeks real time). Usually one buff gets used on yourself per day if you do anything other than buff, so that's 10. Down to 126. There's the periodic mis-fire (Bivoli runs out. Forgot to suit up, etc.) so that's another, say 5 or 6. So you're down to 120. Then there's the guildmates that don't pay you because they "forget," or they figure you do this for free. Then, if you group up, most of the time people expect you to buff them for little or no charge. Let's not even take those into account, though. We'll stick with 120.

If you're lucky, you can get, on average, 10k for each of these. It probably works out to slightly less than that, but we'll take your optimistic (or perhaps it should be considered pessimistic..) point of view, and stick with 10k. 10k times 120 buffs = 1.2mil

1.2 mil minus your buff expense of 700k = 500k. BUT...you had to buy Bivoli, too! That's as much as 200k, but we'll take a modest approach, and say that we only spent 125k on it.

500k - 125k = 375k

375k over two weeks... 187.5k a week. If you are buffed, that's roughly equates to 2 hours a week of running missions!!!

So, I spend 4 hours a week sitting in a star port buffing morons*....like you....so they can have more fun in a game, and make twice the hourly wage in game that I can.

You owe me millions. I want them. Now.

* Not everyone that gets buffed is a moron. Only those Delta-Minuses that can't see beyond their own biases, and speak on matters which they clearly have no information whatsoever, are worthy of the "moron" label. My guess is you've heard this before, though.

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Message Edited by Gastlichu on 04-26-2005 12:24 PM

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Gastlichu wrote:
Are you guys all mad just because you will no longer be able to make the millions you were making for buffing? And you think that was healthy for the game?...

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What do you mean? Why is making millions wrong? I mean, for me trying to be as rich as possible is the end game. Im not playing the game to make everyone happy nor am I constantly thinking "is this healthy for the game". And why should I really?

Why is it more noble to play fighter and slay krayts then to trying to be rich with tools that are given to us? Im just worried that my buffs that I could have either sold or buffed others with and earned something on the lines of 3 million are now, as we speak, being converted to something 1/10 of their previous value.

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Gastlichu wrote:
I know of many people who decided to create doctor alts for the money. Maybe the "millions" thing is not accurate, but the fact is that a lot of people choosed to be doctors for the money. And like everything in life, there are those of us who choosed it because we like it. So if you are not of those why do you get all defensive?

I really shouldn't especify to who I am directing my comments. If they didn't fit you why react at all? And no, I'm not trying to force anyone to play the way I do. But if the low subscription base of SWG is not a sign that there was something seriously wrong with the combat of the game then... nothing I say will convince you otherwise.

Is the CU a little bit too late? Yes maybe, the current players are the ones that enjoyed the broken system, it make sense that most will oppose it, but in the end it will be the best for the game. Does it have it flaws? Well of course, such a change was not in the mind of the original concept of the game.

But then again, if my post doesn't describe you, then why try to defend yourself?...

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Fair enough.

I don't feel I'm defending myself, exactly. Just the idea that docs are all "rich." I started my doc alt because I couldn't consistantly find a buff when I needed one. I'm defending all the docs that have been antagonized by griefers in game who mistakenly think all docs arerich (which, to me, is what your post suggests). If you look through this forum, you'll see the dark side of human behavior described more than once....and we're talking about a past-time! It's ridiculous. Proliferation of the myth is hurtful to those that enjoy playing the part.

When I last logged my doc out, he had less than 200k total. He does have a few buff packs still, so his net-worth (pre-CU) is probably around 750k.

Bottom line on the CU, though--if I wanted to play a cleric, I would have chosen a different game. Oh, wait--I did switch to WoW, didn't I? I suppose for me the disappontment is in how radical of a change this is. And, thinking of a Doctor attempting to stand toe-to-toe with a foe in battle....that's synonymous with Capt. James T. Kirk--responsible for a starship and 1200 souls--beaming down to have a fist-fight with an alien..it doesn't make any sense (and I love Star Trek...)

Combat Medics should be combatants that heal, revive, etc. Doctors should be non-combatants that deal with more serious injuries (wounds?). The current Combat Medic should be called a Chemical and Biological Weapons Specialist(but let's not go there). I'm wondering if the next upgrade will have Entertainers dancing on the front lines of battle...perhapswith some sort of group mesmerize ability.

Good luck to all.

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Jalinsol wrote:

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Gastlichu wrote:
I know of many people who decided to create doctor alts for the money. Maybe the "millions" thing is not accurate, but the fact is that a lot of people choosed to be doctors for the money. And like everything in life, there are those of us who choosed it because we like it. So if you are not of those why do you get all defensive?

I really shouldn't especify to who I am directing my comments. If they didn't fit you why react at all? And no, I'm not trying to force anyone to play the way I do. But if the low subscription base of SWG is not a sign that there was something seriously wrong with the combat of the game then... nothing I say will convince you otherwise.

Is the CU a little bit too late? Yes maybe, the current players are the ones that enjoyed the broken system, it make sense that most will oppose it, but in the end it will be the best for the game. Does it have it flaws? Well of course, such a change was not in the mind of the original concept of the game.

But then again, if my post doesn't describe you, then why try to defend yourself?...

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Fair enough.

I don't feel I'm defending myself, exactly. Just the idea that docs are all "rich." I started my doc alt because I couldn't consistantly find a buff when I needed one. I'm defending all the docs that have been antagonized by griefers in game who mistakenly think all docs are rich (which, to me, is what your post suggests). If you look through this forum, you'll see the dark side of human behavior described more than once....and we're talking about a past-time! It's ridiculous. Proliferation of the myth is hurtful to those that enjoy playing the part.

When I last logged my doc out, he had less than 200k total. He does have a few buff packs still, so his net-worth (pre-CU) is probably around 750k.

Bottom line on the CU, though--if I wanted to play a cleric, I would have chosen a different game. Oh, wait--I did switch to WoW, didn't I? I suppose for me the disappontment is in how radical of a change this is. And, thinking of a Doctor attempting to stand toe-to-toe with a foe in battle....that's synonymous with Capt. James T. Kirk--responsible for a starship and 1200 souls--beaming down to have a fist-fight with an alien..it doesn't make any sense (and I love Star Trek...)

Combat Medics should be combatants that heal, revive, etc. Doctors should be non-combatants that deal with more serious injuries (wounds?). The current Combat Medic should be called a Chemical and Biological Weapons Specialist (but let's not go there). I'm wondering if the next upgrade will have Entertainers dancing on the front lines of battle...perhaps with some sort of group mesmerize ability.

Good luck to all.

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