Doctor Archive

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Farcaster007 wrote:

I had to laugh at the fellow who sauntered intomy Medcenter with completely black Health and Action bars and announced, "I'll tip for quick healing!"

Being a near Master Doc, I love these patients. Great XP, efficient use of my Medpack C's, and the potential for a great tip. The guy was wearing Chitin armor, so I knew he had cash.

Imagine my surprise when he actually tips me 13c and says, "Well, that only took you a few minutes, so I pay what your time is worth..."

Needless to say, I returned his tip, challenged him to a duel and killed him, as I kept Stimming myself as I used my Pistoleer skills and my trusty Iduno special Scout Blaster to "off" him. I didn't agree to follow the Hippocratic Oath...

Ekatha Jes, Coronet, Corellia, Intrepid.

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I absolutely LOVE this one!

I wish all medics and doctors would use this as common practice.

As a Master Doc I dont get XP for healing (unfortunately: with wound E, buff D, and Stim E I could me master doc twice over by now Hey maybe I need to be a Master Master Doc to get /diagnose

I dont spend much time in med centers (normally restocking my Stim vendor, emptying harvester, loading factory, or exploring someplace like Dathomir looking for rare resources) but when I do I often get a couple of tells asking me to heal then for a tip, normally I get500-1000 as a tip for those heals.

If I am on an out of the way planet then I tell people if they can afford it I would like 2cr per wound healed (and at the same time I tell them that I can have their 90% black bars fully healed in between 1-2 minutes (depending on whether my wound E barfs and only heals 200 or behaves and heals 500+)

It is a lot like other professions: The master weaponsmith makes good money because he makes the best weapons, the master smuggler slices the best so makes the most money etc.... the beginning weaponsmith is poor because his weapons cant compete against the ones the master is making.

Farcaster, you are my hero.

I've got the pistol skill and a nice, big 68-104 DH17, but nobody has given me a tip quite as insulting as that to be worth capping them yet... It could happen though. |: )

Doctor Jason'R Horn
Eclipse

Well if they pull something like that and they refuse a duel, just use the "touch of death" on them Nothing like insulting a doc like that and getting incapped for it by a revive pack

Woah.. Doctors can incap someone with a revive pack?

Just going to put my simple view down here.

At the moment there seems to be a fair amount of medics/doctors/combat medics around that are leveling their skill. In certain med canteres during certain peak times you might land up with 2-5 medics all healing (Bestine Med Center). However this is not always the case. As people level up they either master (or get to the level they want) and stop going to the med center, or they realise that there is MUCH better exp getting in to a nice group and going hunting.

I have noticed over the last 2 weeks a substantial decline in the amount of healers in the med centers. The reason for this is simply money (or some other form of reward).

In my experience my tip break downs are as follows 1-3% tip awsome tips (us Docs love you guys...you make it all worht while), 5-20% will give small to reasonable tips and the rest just do not tip at all.

Now I say to you guys now, think about what you are doing. In 2 months when there are very few medics leveling and only a small handfull of people who do it just for the pleasure, how long do you think it will take for your wounds to get healed.

Already as it is when I go in to a med center and turn on my Doc tag I get swamped with requests for healing. People come in and demand immediate attention. Now there are 2 reasons I go to the med center, I still need exp and I like to "chill out" every now and then. The exp I can get better doing other things, and the "chilling out" I could do in our PA village along with other people I know.

Nope like most other people I do not expect tips...but I really do appreciate them. YEs there are times when I am healing, crafting and chatting when I may miss someone tipping me, sorry to you guys. I have started my "people to never heal again list" and the way to get on that list is no tip and to not even say 1 word to me after I have healed you. This list is already huge...no idea how I am going to manage it all, but I will.

I keep hearing all these crafters justifying prices for goods in that how long it takes you the patient to run a couple of missions for 2-3k when making their prices.

The time will come when very, very few healers will go to the med centers because the 2 reasons for going will no longer apply, better money and exp elsewhere and better socialising elsewhere too. I've walked in to med centers many times with 2-10 people all sitting around waiting for huge amounts of wounds to wear off. By docs healing you we are effictivly saving you 30 minutes to several hours of time.

There's nothing worse than a guy coming in to the med center equiped in top armour with an advanced profession above his name, huge amount of wounds, demanding healing then running out without saying a word.

So think about it next time a Doc/Medic/Combat Medic heals you.

Iam going to have to agree here.I too an having an issue with all the Ungrateful players lately,I do not rely on tips to live,I own harvestors and a factory to make money ,but i shouldnt have to , The fact that Architects and weaponsmiths make like 30k a day and can t see it inthier hearts to grant you 500credits is BUNK.I make quality meds and have never asked for payment ,but i am Master Doctor now and am finding myself in the med center less and less, So all i can say for all you NON Medical staff out there is dont think this will last forever cause as soon as the "new" wears off and all the people who thought they wanted to be medics/doctors change cause its "boring' or "not profitable" then Ours services will be at a premium and we may be the ones Literally "raking" in the 30k a day!

As Far as Black list .....I have started one also its called my ignore list...i reserve it for : Rudeness,Badtippers(13cr) for 500plus wound heals,and the ones who cant even manage a Thank you Docs....they will never be healed by me again cause i check it everytime before i heal.EVERYONE should start a BlackList , Maybe then Our "scumbag" Proffesion will once again be noticed and appreciated.

The Bottom line here is that "children" Do not have the same concept for money as "Mature Adults" have.They have not lived enough to know the True value of a "tip" or a Heartfelt "Thanks " .NOT" TY" and run out the door, but take the time to actually Spell Out THANK YOU,It takes like 2 seconds and shows that they were actually at thankful for being healed in 1/8th the time it would have taken.

Thats just what i think ,

I ran into a few peopel last night.

I recently moves to Tyrenna on my server to take advantage of faction terminal to go Covert Rebel.

I got a /tell to go talk to a friend of mine from beta in the med center.

Interestingly enough there were a few medic types o nthe 3rd floor (where my friend was). and about 15 people on te first floor looking for healing.

I talked to the doc trainer (needed to rebuy novice doc, because i'm a moron and accidentaly sold it back)... .then 5 people on floor 1 noticed me... "heal plz" types.

1 guy even offerd me 100 cr! oooooooh.

One guy did have a clue.. He was suffering from an elevator bug, and could not get upstairs.

I might have stayed and helped out, but I had a group waiting for me and getting itchy trigger fingers.

Part of it is our own faults. The fast and helpful free medics have all of the combatants trained wrong. They learned to play the game expecting free heals, because al lthe med center poeople were offering them.

We saw it in beta, we saw it again. The galaxies will change a lot as people max out their professions (not just medic types). Player goals change a lot.

Free heals, free droids, free structures and fee weapons will go away for non-PA people. The peopel dumping full suits of bone armor for free, will not be doing so with Chitin.

-T

This is why I never hang out in the Med Center anymore. It only took me about 1-1/2 weeks of playing to figure out that Med Center Exp is the pits. And I go broke healing people there who either don't tip at all, or figure that tipping 50 creds for 1000 points of wound healing is reasonable. For awhile I tried sitting there advertising that I would heal wounds for 1 cred per point of wound restored, and that people could even pay-as-you-go, tipping me after each shot for the amount that I just healed them. Problem was I'd only get like 1 or 2 people per hour who would actually take me up on it, and the rest would just insult me by calling me greedy (either directly or indirectly by implicating that my prices were too expensive and I was ripping people off).

As for exp, if I just want some fast exp, I'll head out to Wayfar, or some other good hunting area, and just start hitting people with Stim C (or D). Or join a group there. You can get truly epic levels of experience just doing that. I made like 30k of med exp in like 4 or 5 hours one night out there. Unfortunately, I don't make any money doing that, as people don't seem to be very good at tipping the doctors who have been healing their damage.

I recently setup a harvester and a factory, and am going to be putting up one or two more harvesters in the next day or two, and for the rest of my resources I share a couple harvesters with a guildmate (I try to pay about 1/2 the maint on them). Still, even with sharing, I'm looking at about 5-6k creds per day in maint fees. I'm very disappointed that right now I can't make enough money to even cover the maint fees on my equipment by healing. =(

And like other posters have mentioned, for those who have a CLUE, it's not that hard for other players to make 1-2k creds to pay Docs and Medics for the healing they provide.

I havent stepped in a med center since week2. The reason is simple,,i no longer need the xp and got tired of the bs that was going on there.

Now i run a shop out of my house and get cash that way. You want me to heal you,,fine pay up front. Why should i use up my med packs that i must upkeep my harvesters for so you can run around for free. Some people dont like the way I deal,,that ok,,go see the free medic in bestine. Most people i meet in the field understand this and are willing,,i dont ask for much,,i just want to be paid for a service. I've found the cheep ones always run to the med center. Good riddance.

Well first I'd like to drop an update. I've become so annoyed by the total lack of respect and support for medics in general by the other players that I am dropping bounty hunter to become a master doctor. I'd also like to add that thus far I have gotten almost to pharm 4, and am working the rest of the skills towards master medic. I have yet to heal one single wound without being paid for it first upfront. I will not heal one single wound without being paid for it upfront. If the medic beside me wants to heal it for free, that is his business. Once I make it to master medic I will move on to doctor. Tomorrow I am getting a medium house and a food/chem factory and it is going up on Corelia. I will be setting up a practice there and will charge visitors a fee for wound healing. I also have several guilds who I am talking with atm who will quite possibly hire me once I'm a doctor to go alone with them for raids to heal, buff, an revive their players. Hopefully this should be a lucrative business, but further to the point, I hope to get more players used to the idea of paying for medical service. This game is young and this is the time to establish trends in this player economy. Medics are being walked all over hardcore and I think its ridiculous that people are spending 80k for composite armor (albeit I love mine) yet can't shell out 1k credits to the master doctor who heals both their ham bars from 50 to full in a matter of 2 minutes. Thats insane.

After having gone to the medic side of the fence myself I believe players should tip EVEN MORE than I did when I started this post. I now know how much these medical supplies actually cost and the doctors should make a profit ontop of that. I have not yet had a chance to sell any medical supplies yet and don't know how the market for those is. I assume they are bought up by players with lower skills who don't want to invest in ogranic chemistry but still want the benefits of stimpack/woundpack b's. Well anyways this is getting long.

To the gentleman who killed his patient, my hat is off to you, I would have done the same thing.

To those that disagree with me, well I really dont' care. You are more than welcome to heal players, at your own expense, I for one will be most happy to charge them AND make a profit and there isn't anything evil, mean, or dirty about it. I'm even now thinking of starting a guild of other medics on my server to try and establish some sort of unspoken rule for medics charging. So far I have had about a 50/50 split of people who were more than happy to pay upfront for healing, and cursed at me calling me a jerk because I wouldn't heal them at my own expense so they could run off without tipping me or giving so much as a thank you. This is what I call a bargain since if I did work on a tip basis, and a person ran off w/o tipping me, I would never heal them again and wish that I hadn't to begin with.

To those medics who agree with me, prove it, begin charging your patients, nothing too exhorbitant especially if your a novice medic like myself. As for you master doctors, you should be charging an arm and a leg given that your packs require a factory, and the speed at which you heal, plus the cost of your packs which I imagine are quite high. Prove you don't believe in being taken advantage of and short changed and start charging your customers. The sooner you do, the sooner I can go back to being a Bh and sending you more work :-)

My 2 euro cents:

I don't charge upfront except for people who I think are annoying (Y0uKn00WwH0ImE8N). I usually get tipped a fair amount except when there is a clusterf... of five doctors speedhealing a single patient.

I don't care if some people don't tip. I'll try to remember their names and mentally blacklist them, sure, but those people who do tip often more than make up for it. Of course I can't resist if someone shouts "I'll pay 4000 credits for preferred treatment" either... If I don't heal, someone else will.

And yes, when I'm on Lok or Endor I do charge.

Baaric, you are completely and totally wrong about your assessment of the IRL medical profession. Docs in the ER make damned good money, and as one who is good friends with three ER physicians, I can say this with authority. They're all loaded. Not necessarily from patients at the time of service, not up front, and not because cash exchanges hands, but from HMOs, Medicare, and other health insurance benefits. The reason they do is that no one IRL expects to receive medical service without someone paying for it - no one except liberal wackos and Europeans anyway, and even then, someone is paying for it, just not at the time of service.

I agree that the concept of refusing service to someone is unpleasant and sticks in my craw. But I'm not stupid. I just avoid the med center except for healing my own wounds, and I only do that because med droids are bugged at the moment.

No one is going to support a true-to-life medical system because this is a game. People don't expect that kind of system, don't want that kind of system, and probably won't stand for that kind of system. But saying that it's reasonable to expect medics and doctors not to get paid for work in the medical centers because doctors IRL don't make good money in the ER is simply inaccurate.