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Thread: Buffset Boycott

Keldaria
Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:34 pm
#14






diepa wrote:





Keldaria wrote:





Raeannna wrote:

Depends what you mean by sets?


I sell Single sets of buffpacks(1 of each pack) for 100k and 130k(Depending on the stats 945/31/2:51 for 100k and 947/31/3:20/89 for 130k) and in crates of 2, 5, 10 and so on


If a set of 10 buffpacks for 1M + is on vendor, it's because it's work that much for 60 buffpacks :/






Nice buffpacks.. wish i was on your server ... on mine all the older doc's quit and sold their 12 peice suites and now we have a bunch of newb doc's that jacked up the prices on Avian from 150ish CPU to 375+ CPU and up and they took prices from 150k for a set of 920 / 31 / 89 to 300k for their cruddy set of 943 / 26 / 90 which sucks cause they are wasteing good avian and most experienced docs around aren't buying the avian because of price andare quiting aswell because of theprice gouges... oh well atleast my guild was able to get enough avian for our guild use






Newb Docs? The price started that high from Doggit who is one of the longstanding crafting docs left.


920/31/89 buff packs on lowca have not been 150k for at least the 6 months that I have been a Doc, the prices weremore like 200k and stats more like 910 for top quality. Doggits last run was 916 power and he charges 250k for a set.


As for the 300k sets, I think they are over priced too, however these are some of the best buffs ever available on Lowca..and the buffs I have seen advertised for 300k have all been over 30 charges.


I was also upset by the increase in price on the avain but I gave some of my new guild members 200cpu to harvest it for me, and harvested some myself so I have about 60k, should hold me over.


One other note, When all those docs sold there suits, they also sold their old reactive gas(60+ cpu) class 4(60+ cpu) and tat fiber(10+ cpu) so these buff packs that are priced so high are probably the smallest profit margin made by docs on buff pack manufacture in a long time.



Just my 2 cents






Few things .. i've color coded it so you know what is a responce to what


I have no problem with doggit he is an older doc that simple responded to the increase in Avian by raising prices


I just said that they've went from 150k per set to 300k per set i didn't state a time frame... i've been a doctor for about 8 months and about 2 month into it i bought about 25 sets in a crate which has lasted me till now.. i'm just glad i'm 1 step away from producing my own buffs so i don't have to bother with buying them at 300k a set


Glad we can agree they are overpriced but i've seen atleast 5 docs makeing 26 charge sets and had anotherone ask me to sell them my high oq / ut fiberplast so that they could continue to make 26 charge packs. however i've only seen 2 doctors make 30 + charge packs (please note i havn't been to doggits to check what he has but even at that its still a 6 to 3 doctor ratio)


Yes i have alittle bit too about 27k due to the fact i have a very devoted guild but its a small guild and we only have like 3 harvestors so considering i did pretty well too and this should tide me and my guild for a long time till peeps come to their sences


The Reactive is overpriced should be about 15 - 20ish and so is the Class 4 which should be 15 - 20ish aswell but the fiberplast is about right .. on a good day you might see it for 6-7 cpu but more likly then not its going to be 10cpu can't get away from that. and because of that it sucks to see yet more resources jacked up / wasted by newer docs.


I actually had someone tell me that 946 / 26 / 89 packs should cost more then 936 / 32 / 89 packs .. just makes me laugh really .. to see a doctor not understanding that the extra 10 power on the packs only equates to an addition 27 on the buff (which means a Nuna can hit you one more time then normal) while the other buff allows you to buff 6 more people .. I guess i can only really speak for myself really but thats good enough for me.





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GilGalvanti
Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:08 pm
#15






Keldaria wrote:





Raeannna wrote:

Depends what you mean by sets?


I sell Single sets of buffpacks(1 of each pack) for 100k and 130k(Depending on the stats 945/31/2:51 for 100k and 947/31/3:20/89 for 130k) and in crates of 2, 5, 10 and so on


If a set of 10 buffpacks for 1M + is on vendor, it's because it's work that much for 60 buffpacks :/






Nice buffpacks.. wish i was on your server ... on mine all the older doc's quit and sold their 12 peice suites and now we have a bunch of newb doc's that jacked up the prices on Avian from 150ish CPU to 375+ CPU and up and they took prices from 150k for a set of 920 / 31 / 89 to 300k for their cruddy set of 943 / 26 / 90 which sucks cause they are wasteing good avian and most experienced docs around aren't buying the avian because of price andare quiting aswell because of theprice gouges... oh well atleast my guild was able to get enough avian for our guild use





i agree... i have to spend days hunting my own avianmeat now becuase prices r to high to afford



Jjade Cortez- Lowca
Slaten Sanders- Scylla
GrimzKeeper
Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:03 am
#16






goldflame wrote:





Raeannna wrote:

Depends what you mean by sets?


I sell Single sets of buffpacks(1 of each pack) for 100k and 130k(Depending on the stats 945/31/2:51 for 100k and 947/31/3:20/89 for 130k) and in crates of 2, 5, 10 and so on


If a set of 10 buffpacks for 1M + is on vendor, it's because it's work that much for 60 buffpacks :/






Teach me Raeanna, i still can't get your results..





I was kinda wondering the same. Sweet buffs I must say first off (although marketable price) it is way underpriced IMO. I would love to have seen a vendor selling that on my server. Would save me the crafting/factory times




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Raeannna
Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:37 am
#17






goldflame wrote:





Raeannna wrote:

Depends what you mean by sets?


I sell Single sets of buffpacks(1 of each pack) for 100k and 130k(Depending on the stats 945/31/2:51 for 100k and 947/31/3:20/89 for 130k) and in crates of 2, 5, 10 and so on


If a set of 10 buffpacks for 1M + is on vendor, it's because it's work that much for 60 buffpacks :/






Teach me Raeanna, i still can't get your results..




hehe It's learning the power differences with subcomponants mostly And the quality of your resources


To make any power packs above 945+ you would need Isneja, Aieprema or Pisro avian meats combined with Methidiene(spellcheck?) or oonim reactive gas for the longer duration/higher power mix.


I use 64-66 ACRDMs. The only difference between a 64, 65 and a 66ACRDM is that it'll be 1 more added power. Meaning, 64 ACRDM would be your base. 65 would be +1 on power, 66 would be +2.


With our best ASDS's, their 74. Before they were 73 before the recent shift of 997 OQ dolovite iron. But with the one added power to ASDS they add another power point to your buffpacks.


Then the key to all this is the ABECs My favorite ABECs are 19/22 ones But takes hours of crafting tests to get the right number of amazings to achieve that. I usually go with 19/21, 20/21, 18/22, 18/23. It depends on how long you want to experiment with abecs to get the right stats


Every added power is one more added power to your final experiment.


Meaning like 19/22 ABECs usually turn out to 945/31-32 uses with Methidiene reactive gas(which makes them 2:51 duration) Or 946/31-32 with 2:45 duration with Oonim.


18/23 is considered the 'perfect' abec, told by the once great doctor datto!(Eclipse misses you!) Because it maxes charges, making 32 charges usually with enough power to make 944 power packs with Isneja. It's perfect for Aieprema/Pisro meats though.


I assume you use Otchic to craft? I haven't tried crafting with that meat in a very long time.. If you can craft 920+ Power, 3:30+ duration with 30+ Uses. That's the best that meat can get to.



Raeanna Le'vine { Retired 12pt Master Doctor
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Keldaria
Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:29 pm
#18






zelp wrote:




Keldaria wrote:

I actually had someone tell me that 946 / 26 / 89 packs should cost more then 936 / 32 / 89 packs .. just makes me laugh really .. to see a doctor not understanding that the extra 10 power on the packs only equates to an addition 27 on the buff (which means a Nuna can hit you one more time then normal) while the other buff allows you to buff 6 more people .. I guess i can only really speak for myself really but thats good enough for me.









Well, 946 Base can hit 2601 (with +25 biv) and it seems especially the Starport Docs like it, because they can charge more, when they can buff for 2600. I made a little Testrun with 60 sets 946 Base/28 charges and let them compete with my normal packs that have 941 Base/32 charges (1 set 210k, both sets same price). Guess what? The 946 Packs were sold out in 1 day. And then: I have also 870 Base sets in stock for the half price (120k a set) and the 941 Base sell 5 times better even that you can hit 2400 easily with 870ish Buffpacks,...
Its the same like with that T21 that has 550 Max Damage and people are willing to pay the double price then for one with 540 Max...

;-)




sorry but if that is true then peeps that bought it are ether 1 of 3 things ..



  1. needing really high level buffs for PVP and beleave ever little bit counts (which is fine)

  2. they didn't look at the charges

  3. Stupid

anyone who's had the time to examine the facts would definatly choose the pack with more charges rather then the pack with the most power . As for your 870 packs.. thats a differance of night and day your talking a 71 point differance .. oh and for the record 870's hit for 2390 but point taken.


oh and you can sell 2600's for abit more but commonly people take the shortist line with 2500+ buffs .. hitting the 2600 mark only means anything to PVPers where every point counts beside your compareing docs that buff for 2600 to docs buffing for 2587 (13 points in differance)





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