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Thread: New Crafting Doc asking for average prices...
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Jittaba
Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:17 pm
#14
Thanks radew/darew, this helps too.
Anyone else? The more information the better I can set my prices
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I don't want be OVERpriced, nor UDERpriced.
Jitt
Anyone else? The more information the better I can set my prices
.I don't want be OVERpriced, nor UDERpriced
.Jitt
Nornerator
Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:38 pm
#15
Radew wrote:
Jittaba wrote:
Well, everybody got his/her own definition of "best". Nothing against him, his/her stuff is great without doubt
i never claimed to be the best, but the customers sure love my stuff, and i sure love looking at all the 0's in my account =)
From what I know, I have 10% of what you have... That is, if the rumors are correct about your 600 million credits....
Radew
Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:09 pm
#16
Nornerator wrote:
Radew wrote:
Jittaba wrote:
Well, everybody got his/her own definition of "best". Nothing against him, his/her stuff is great without doubt
i never claimed to be the best, but the customers sure love my stuff, and i sure love looking at all the 0's in my account =)
From what I know, I have 10% of what you have... That is, if the rumors are correct about your 600 million credits....
i knew i shouldnt of left my pin number on that piece of paper =oP
Nornerator
Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:07 am
#17
Radew is definately the best Crafting Doc on the Gorath server, listen to that guy!!!
Im catching up though...... Im hot on your tail!
Jittaba
Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:41 am
#18
Well, everybody got his/her own definition of "best". Nothing against him, his/her stuff is great without doubt .
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Jittaba
Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:05 am
#19
Do you Doc's use Adv. Chem. Rel. Mech. for Stimpacks, Woundpacks, Curepacks? Or only for Buffpacks?
For Statepacks, I'll use normal ones, no Advanced ones, even crap ones, since quality doesn't matter at all.
But I am not sure about the ACRM for Stim-, Wound- and Curepacks, since they need Herb and Class4...
I'm asking questions till I get my lots free....lol...all occupied for harvesters
Jitt
For Statepacks, I'll use normal ones, no Advanced ones, even crap ones, since quality doesn't matter at all.
But I am not sure about the ACRM for Stim-, Wound- and Curepacks, since they need Herb and Class4...
I'm asking questions till I get my lots free....lol...all occupied for harvesters
Jitt
Message Edited by Jittaba on 02-07-2005 07:13 AM
WineGuyJr
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:12 am
#20
With regards to using Adv components, I would use them (all at decent power, though I won't use my best stuff, of course) for Stims and even woundpacks. Though with the woundpacks I'd use the cheapest herb meat I could find. But then, there seems to still be a fair amount of nice class 4 petrochem on Valcyn from the last spawn and I'd like to think we're due for another. I tend to agree with you on the state-cure ones. Though I'd still use maxed-charge ABECs just to get the most bang for the buck.
Earlier you'd asked about pricing. If you don't mind, I'll paste part of a pricing list from Ledao (one of Valcyn's best crafting Docs) so you can get an idea about what we're charging.....
Enhances (Action packs range from 930-949 power, and all have at least as many charges as the meat packs they match. Durations are matched to within 1.5 minutes):
908-09/37 (91, 13.1k) -- 24k per pack. (13.1k seconds is 3 hours 38 minutes) -- 649c per charge.
908-09/35 (89, 13.1k) -- 23k per. -- 657c per charge.
911/34 (89, 13.1k) -- 23k per. -- 676c per charge.
906-07/32-33 (89, 11.4k) -- 17-18k per pack. (11.4k seconds is 3 hours 10 minutes) -- from 531c per charge.
874/35 (89, 12.3k) -- 14-15k per pack. (12.3k seconds is 3 hours 25 minutes) -- from 400c per charge.
Enhance Resists:
210-240 power Bs (duration varies with the power -- more power = less duration) -- 18-20k.
170-190 power, 17-19% Absorption Cs -- 20-22k.
Stimpacks:
470-71/45-46 (5) Stim Bs -- 2.8k per.
471/44 (5) Stim Bs -- 2.5k per.
560/51 (30) Stim Cs -- 3k per.
1220+/62 (40) Stim Es -- 5.5k per.
1210+/60 (40) Stim Es -- 5k per.
1250+/69+ (45) Stim Es -- 5k per.
Woundpacks:
190+/51 (5) Wound Bs -- 2k per.
210+/51+ (49) Wound Cs -- 2.5k per. (I think)
410+/71-74 (79-81) Wound Es for Health and Action -- 5k per.
Cures:
600+ power single Poison Cure Cs -- 3k per.
(single Disease Cure Cs -- 3k per)
290+ power single Poison Cure As -- 2k per.
220+ power single Disease Cure As -- 2k per.
Area Cures:
(no idea on the stats. top of the line poison Bs are 18k, Cs are 20k; Disease Bs are 15k, Disease Cs are 18k -- midrange Poison Cures are also available for less money. I use server best resources in the high end versions of these, as in most things...)
States:
51 Charge State Cures -- all 1.5k per.
[there's more, but you get the idea]
I'm fairly new to the crafting business (I'm an 11pt crafter at the moment) so I am selling comparible buffs & stims for a bit less (even after factoring in having fewer charges in some cases). I haven't been around to check all that many med vendors to compare prices, but in general I'd say Ledao higher than normal prices prices but among the best quality products for our server.
To help put some of that in context, Avian meat usually goes for 150cpu on our server, though the stuff that gave 908pwr/13.1k duration ended up at 200cpu. And we've had several decent herb spawns lately, so I imagine about everyone (at least, those who have the seemingly neverending supply of Class 4 stuff that shifted out a long time ago) can made fairly inexpensive +62 pwr or better ACRDMs. We've also had good spawns of most everything recently, though some of the best were very short-lived (in my opinion). The best Dant berries I've ever seen (994 OQ AND PE) never made it onto swgcraft.com and I've only found one person selling any. So it goes. Anyway, my point is that in the last 3 months we've been able to harvest most of what we need (and there has been a lot of older stuff available in auctions as well). I'm sure that on a server with no recent (good) spawns things can be wildly different. I hope that offers a bit of perspective for you.
As for your other questions, I don't know enough yet to offer a truly informed opinion. But maybe Ledao/Billy/Hexen or one of Valcyn's other well-known crafting Docs will step in to offer their opinions. Well, sorry for the huge post, but I can't sleep tonight. I had to find some way of passing the time. Take it easy.
DarkDeathDude
Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:03 am
#21
Best sellers are definately the Buff packs
Followed by Stim Bs and Es and Rez Kits
Stim Cs and Ds
Resist Buffs are pretty popular
as is State heal Dizzy and Intimidate
Woundpacks sell slow but steady, I stock Bs and Es(Es have nice high chrge counts )
Sales in poison cures higher than disease cures, both a steady rate.
DocArea cures not much of a seller at all,
Wow you guys all charge so much for your medkits 
I sell at these prices and still make lots of money
Fixed Rate, Stats regardless, but i put in some as examples) Veggie= NOT with ACRDM, just regular CRDM
Stim Bs 1k each 40/464 or veggie 43/416
Stim Cs 1.4K 47/642 or veggie 49/595
Stim Ds 1.8K 54/938 or veggie 55/900
Stim Es 2.5K 57/1119 med 40 or 63/1259 or veggie 65/1125
Buffs on Ahazi are really cheap
80-90K can get u 32/900s sets quite easily and the mid 800 packs sell for as little as 50k for a 6 stat set!
Me, I do roughtly like this, and all my buffs have 30-32 chrges
800-850power 60k a set of 6 stats
850-900 90K a set of 6 stats
900+ 100K a set of 6 stats
depending on duration i add or take 10k for 20mins
my uberst buffs, just completed, are 36/915s 3hrs 33mins, they going for 200k a set but that my most expensive ive ever sold at, due to the great charge and duration 
My Wound Packs are fixed rates again
Bs 800creds - 42/200 on the Health and Action, use veggies for the 4 other stats, get 42/165
Cs 1K - been a while forgotten the stats , i stopped making them
, i stopped making themEs 2.5K - 77/300 not really needed since Bs cover most day to day woundings, i just like the high crg count
On my Poison Cures, State Cures and Fire Blankets i tend to do 100 creds a chrg, and round down to nearest 500creds, so 49 chrges would be 4.5K, but i think these are often found cheaper.
I also sell componets, in crates at 15k a full crate, again regardless of stats, so my ALS are 184s, my ABECs can be 19-21chrg/14-17pwr, Solid Shells Pwr74(we got a 1000OQ dolovite on ahazi, yummy), and Advanced Chems are 25K a crate due to the herb ingredients Pwr varys from 50-65. These sell surprisingly well, many people buyng up 10 sets of serialled crates at a time
Good promotion tatics:-
put shop WP in name on the medkits u make, sell lots on the bazaar for getting ur shop noticed, spam the auction chanel, use a merchant barking droid. One my favorite tricks was to have my droid barking something like this 'Help I'm lost, can u return me to Spiderwell MedKits Dant 3348 5515' as he patrolled around a starport or even in the village! People loved the fact it was a different spam from the average.
Stock your shop with showcase Loots and Stuff, I got one vendor dressed in BH suit, another with a NS bicep, lots of janta meds on display. RIS Suits. mando helm, crazy skill tapes, get all the paintings and etc, or anything that people love tolook at
I understand that ive been a crafting doc for over a year now, and have blown all my cash on decor, its a never ending merry go round for me!
But even b4 i could afford cool stuff i used to make a real effort to construct a serving desk out of ottomans and crate pieces, get an artitect to your house and have him make u things to construct a cool looking shop. my first shop was in a giuld hall and was famous as i put 200 bantha statues in it lol! unfortunately it got lost to a bad lot swapper!
Themed shops look cool and people appreciate it, I like BE shops with tons of animals
Im thinking of making a ranger shop if i retire from meds, and would dress up tuskens and have krayts skulls, hunter trophy etc in it.
But thats IF 
Use the forums to post when you have restocked, and remind people why ur shops so great! (quality and low price or something)
Also when i see docs at starports etc I ask them if they want a WP to a great med shop (this was more in the 5-10min waiting days), but the same rule applys whenever ur standing about (say getting a mind buff), look for new medics who just started playing, etc anyone who might be a potential customer. Im not saying do this all the time, just if u get an opportunity.
Hope this helps some
Ledao
Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:13 pm
#22
WineGuyJr wrote:
I'm fairly new to the crafting business (I'm an 11pt crafter at the moment) so I am selling comparible buffs & stims for a bit less (even after factoring in having fewer charges in some cases). I haven't been around to check all that many med vendors to compare prices, but in general I'd say Ledao higher than normal prices prices but among the best quality products for our server.
Interesting. Do you really think that's still true? (And I ask because I'm curious, not because I want to argue -- If my prices are still higher than average, I'm going to lower them again...)
I haven't done anything like an exhaustive price study in a long time (and if you're interested in a job, I've been thinking about hiring someone to do one for me), but I certainly check out med vendors that happen to be in places that I visit... I've seen a lot of sub-par stim Bs for 3k+, a lot of 26-28 charge enhances for 20k+, and things like rez kits for nearly double what I charge.
I dunno about Billy's Stims and woundpacks, since whenever I go by his shop they're out of stock, but I'm quite sure his enhances are all more expensive than mine... Or at least they were last time I was there.
Then, to return to the topic of the thread... Everything sells. Make it all.
I stopped making "veggie" Stim Bs a few months ago -- even at a 1k discount from the Advanced version, they were just languishing on the vendor...
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