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Miqmac

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:37 pm

Ok. funny thing is that I was master doc, shipwright prior to cu. I left game and came back a few months later. I used my respecs to play around with different versions of BH and Smuggler.

I used my final respec and went to Mshipwright, merchant, doc 4000

now I want to master doc but being that we have no ranged heals and in a group the only ones that seem to take damage are the melee types. I get in. heal one person and then run for 10 minutes and drain my mind keeping myself alive. when all is said and done ... with an 8 man group running bols/pickets i gained a whoppin 6k (apprx) exp for the entire lair.

without respec how did you guys manage to master doc post-cu?

I see that buffs give no exp anymore nor does self healing so how?????

Miqmac

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:41 pm

#2

c'mon someone please help. Or are you all pre-cu or respec docs as it would seem that is the only way to get here without combat skills.

Jakron

Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:39 pm

#3

Ummmm i grinded doc with a group of jedi. and i got 300k a lair healing everyone in group against cl 82's

pre cu you just heal macro then rez macro when you had the ability heh

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jmonty

Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:19 pm

#4

have you thought about getting the area heal from medic, and then just dumping it when you run out of skillpoints? i'm not sure how well it works, but it sounds like a good idea to me.

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Jagii

Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:27 pm

#5

To getmedicalexperience, you need to healsomebody that isfighting the bols (which can include yourself). You will get your experience wheneach bol dies. It doesn't matter how much damage you heal or how many people you heal.

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Keppisuutari

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:22 am

#6

Getting med-xp fast can be done without ranged or area heals, though if you pick up the ranged line from medic, it will be sooo much easier. Bacta spray works wonders, just be careful when using it near lairs so you dont get all the aggro.

Problem is when the group is too good. Meaning allmost all cl80 grinders with roots and snares and few melee tanks. Most things go down without anyone getting any damage to heal.

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st90

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:38 am

#7

I'm currently grinding my way through doctor. I play mostly solo. To gain medical XP I take creature lair missions with a level equiv. to mine. I draw the MOBs induvidually to me and I rely on the default attacks rather than specials.And allow the mob within range so it can do damage. to me, I then heal as I toy with the mob.Then drop it for the kill. I earn medical XP at a fair rate. I'm currently level 65 and I can get as much as 10k to 15k of medical xp per lair with this te4chnique. You won't master doc in a day that for sure. But you will obtain xp.

There is a bad side to this technique. It tears through armor rather quickly. But I find with out the armor I'm in greater risk of being overwelmed and incapped if a second or third mob aggrro while I'm kiting the first MOB.

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TenshiHanaKinu

Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:25 pm

#8

Picking up the Ranged toss would be a good idea as well.

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Miqmac

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:14 pm

#9

ok. seems that many people are missing the key factor in my dilema.

I have ZERO combat skills. do defenses whatsoever. not even novice brawler or novice marksman so when i get in range and heal someone... I am toast. There are two reasons I have problems. the first is obviously lack of defense (or offense for that matter) skills. the second is because the hate system is borked.

example of current hate system.

tank1 pulls agro on lair and attacks one bol for 200damage while the other 2 bol beat up on him. Tank1 has just gerated 200 points worth of hate because of that 200 damage however he has only generated hate with the specific bol he is hitting. I step in and heal tank1 for 199 points of damage. I gain 199 points of hate with every mob that currently has agro on tank1. so although bol 1 is still attacking tank1 who has 1 more point of hate, both bol 2 and bol 3 are now attacking me. because i have 199 points of hate on both. with no defense Im dead very very very soon.

This is my dilema. I want to hear from a doctor who has mastered doctor without using respec since the cu AND who had no other combat skills at all when doing so.

please help

Marrow1

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:45 pm

#10

Miqmac wrote:

ok. seems that many people are missing the key factor in my dilema.

I have ZERO combat skills. do defenses whatsoever. not even novice brawler or novice marksman so when i get in range and heal someone... I am toast. There are two reasons I have problems. the first is obviously lack of defense (or offense for that matter) skills. the second is because the hate system is borked.

example of current hate system.

tank1 pulls agro on lair and attacks one bol for 200damage while the other 2 bol beat up on him. Tank1 has just gerated 200 points worth of hate because of that 200 damage however he has only generated hate with the specific bol he is hitting. I step in and heal tank1 for 199 points of damage. I gain 199 points of hate with every mob that currently has agro on tank1. so although bol 1 is still attacking tank1 who has 1 more point of hate, both bol 2 and bol 3 are now attacking me. because i have 199 points of hate on both. with no defense Im dead very very very soon.

This is my dilema. I want to hear from a doctor who has mastered doctor without using respec since the cu AND who had no other combat skills at all when doing so.

please help

This is a simple case of Hate management.

1. Let the damage dealer build up Hate. In your example, of multi mobs, find a tank that will be using an area attack so that they are damaging all the agroed mobs.

2. Heal them with your lowest heal at the last moment possible before the creature(s) die.

3. Heal them when they have very little damage done to them. Watch their health bar and the second it turns light heal it. Then stop healing until the mob is dead.

In the case of doc b. jab is very good for this since it is a 1 time heal (unlike b. infusion) and as a n. doc it is low power.

4. Dont go up the healing line until the end. This will keeps your heals low.

Why not mix in combat and healing xp? Sooner or later you will need to pick up some combat.

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Oshax

Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:07 am

#11

I mastered Doctor in less than 3 days. Get in a group with level CL80s and hunt Bols on Dantooine. Pikets are ok, but the tend to stampede, better to stick with Bols. The best bet to grab the XP? Bacta Infusion....reason? Duration. Bacta Infusion lasts for, what? 35 to 45 seconds? I'm guessing, but Iknow it's in that range. Toss that on the player doing the pulling, and every creature he HITS (not kills necessarily) while Bacta Infusion is active, you will get full XP when it dies. Even if you're in one of those groups that doesn't use a tank, and they all just go nuts, you should easily be able to keep Bacta Infusion going on the heavy hitters. It's really not that hard, seeing as how the creatures aggro whoever did them the most damage. Alternatively, you can use Bacta Infusion on yourself, then go do an area attack in the middle of the mob, and hope your group takes them out before you die. Don't recommend that approach. Anyways, I like this approach better than soloing lairs, because if you solo, eventually you have to kill the critter, which means your splitting your experience between combat (unarmed in my case) and medical. If you do it the way I described in a group, you get full XP and it all goes to medical. Every point. I made 150k to 250k XP a lair when I was coming up.

Oh, and that's 3 days at about 3 to 4 hours a day. Hope it helps!

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gelfling_winterfell

Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:22 am

#12

I recommend trying to find a group with an MDoc or MCM. Not only will you be able to get on-the-spot training and res'ing but it's really quite refreshing to have someone else in the group who can heal. Last but not least,do get yourself some battle armour. It really does make a difference.

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freak88

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:54 am

#13

i remastered doc as follow, get in a group, pick the player who is taking the most damage, nov tka in my group, /follow them, and target them and heal away, i got surprisisingly fast experience.

or way 2

have your group set up a firing line , you stand behid them and click on their group names, this is even better, but they have to be still so you can keep healing them

you basically have to be grouped and be underfire to heal now. anyhow thats how i did it, recorrect me if i was wrong about anything, but thats how i did it.

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