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Thread: How do I get Action Duration to match all other Stat durations?

DarkViper99
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:22 am
#1

How do I get Action Duration to match all other Stat durations? Pretty much my question.



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Agent001
Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:55 am
#2

use the same resources
Rere
Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:40 am
#3






Agent001 wrote:

use the same resources







Hehe, well that or ... you'd have to experiment with different kinds of organic and inorganic.The reason action usually has alonger or shorterduration it's because people use organics andinorganics with higher or shorterDR than the reactive and avian meat they are using in the other packs. So if you don't want to use your avian meat and reactive gas you gotta do a little mix and match till you get a result that will have a close duration to the other packs.


Personally, I only use organics and inorganics in my action packs, not only because it saves me a precious amount of avian and reactive gas but because as I've learned by selling buff packs, people actually prefer a higher action pack if they can get one. And also I find the whole mix and match till you get a almost perfect match with the other packs challenging. Currently my 880 power packs have a differenceof 10 seconds between the action and all the other stats. So in the end works for my customers, works for me and everybody is happy with that.




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Marrow1
Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:50 pm
#4






Agent001 wrote:

use the same resources







Ohhh, never use avian you Action buffs.... the horror.


To get your duration to match then:


(0.4 * OQavian + 0.6 * DRavian + 0.4 * OQgas + 0.6*DRgas) must equal


(0.4 * OQorg + 0.6 * DRorg + 0.4 * OQinorg + 0.6*DRinorg)


Since you can use any org or inorg it is rather easy to get the equations to match. If you are having a hard time then tryusing the gas but and then looking for an org to replace the avian.


Once you get the durations to match then double check that the PE on the org isabout the same or higher than your avian PE. At that point your most likely going to have an action packwith the same duration but higher power than your other packs.





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zelp
Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:45 pm
#5

Its the only real challange for crafting (finaly all docs have the same "best ever" resources...) so... you have to find out by yourself.

Take some factory-rests of ABECs, ASDS and ACRDs and test a bit around with different resources.

You can also take lower-quality resources for the sub-components maybe, because mostly you hit more power on action only by the resources, so you dont need to waste the best petro-4-fuel in your ACRDs.

I managed to get 4 secs close - Action Enhance has 12395 at 918 Base and the other packs 12399 at 918 Base - and iam a bit proud of it.




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ngp
Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:56 pm
#6






zelp wrote:
Its the only real challange for crafting (finaly all docs have the same "best ever" resources...) so... you have to find out by yourself.

Take some factory-rests of ABECs, ASDS and ACRDs and test a bit around with different resources.

You can also take lower-quality resources for the sub-components maybe, because mostly you hit more power on action only by the resources, so you dont need to waste the best petro-4-fuel in your ACRDs.

I managed to get 4 secs close - Action Enhance has 12395 at 918 Base and the other packs 12399 at 918 Base - and iam a bit proud of it.







How did your charges turn out?
Knocky
Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:12 pm
#7

Bah...just used the same resources.


Nothing like going to rebuff and waiting 15 minutes for your action to finally wear off.
Marrow1
Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:06 pm
#8






ngp wrote:





zelp wrote:
Its the only real challange for crafting (finaly all docs have the same "best ever" resources...) so... you have to find out by yourself.

Take some factory-rests of ABECs, ASDS and ACRDs and test a bit around with different resources.

You can also take lower-quality resources for the sub-components maybe, because mostly you hit more power on action only by the resources, so you dont need to waste the best petro-4-fuel in your ACRDs.

I managed to get 4 secs close - Action Enhance has 12395 at 918 Base and the other packs 12399 at 918 Base - and iam a bit proud of it.







How did your charges turn out?





charges will alway be higher assuming the inorg had UT since the gas does not.




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Datto
Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:16 pm
#9

This is a topic I enjoy thoroughly. I find it to be a challenge to match materials to avian/gas and look forward to doing it.

What I start by doing is add your OQ of gas and avian together, write down that number; add the DR of your gas and avian and write the number down. Lastly, write down the PE of your avian.

Quite simply, you try to match all 3 numbers as closely as possible. I use SWGcraft.com extensively to find the names of materials which meet my criteria.

I recently had a great challenge of 994oq/990+pe with 198 DR avian. That match that took some effort. I ended up with 6 more power and 70 seconds longer. Considering it takes 90 seconds to apply a buff, 70 seconds is within a reasonable amount of time. Instead of paying 225cpu for the avian and 40cpu for the gas, I built it with 10cpu resources available from the bazaar.

Good Luck!
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y-osa
Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:38 pm
#10

Of course same duration sets is preferable to a wildly varied duration action pack, seen some doctors avoid some vendors in preference to others due to this reason for there buff suplies. I always use the same gas as in my other packs and a closely matched or high end organic, reactive gas isnt so hard to aquire, not so costly, and solves half the equation by using the same gas in your action packs, doesnt matter if the action power doesnt match up, long as the sets power is 830+ pp will be happy. I alwaysget my action durration within 6 mins of the others with little trouble that way, of course if your a suplier, doesnt hurt to keep a run on hand in storage using all same avien and gas incase you get a specific request for all same duration packs.
Slash_DPC
Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:41 pm
#11

Gorath loves my 13.8k action buffs that go in my normal sets of buffs that are 12.4k duration.





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Aeron-Blackthorn
Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:22 am
#12






Knocky wrote:

Bah...just used the same resources.


Nothing like going to rebuff and waiting 15 minutes for your action to finally wear off.






Yeh i'm lazy like that too jsut use the avian. I actually get complimented on the fact that my buffs match. Maybe it's my ego but I like that image.



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shagalot
Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:17 pm
#13

wouldnt it be nice if there was just a /dumpBuffs command...
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