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I think it is prefect were it is. It's at the top of a tree wear it belongs. I feel vert strongly about this. I am tired of all these nerfs. leave it alone it is fine. If you want to fix something fix the bugs. This is fine the way it is. I am tired of every proffesion I take on getting changed all around.

I am workin on Doc/Crabine and I like both classes very much. I am a veryslow grinder and I plan on going up the res tree first so I have something of value while i work on all the other boxes. No one values me as a doc unless I can res, it's what all the big groups want. Atleast this way I can have a way to make real money as I slowly work on all the other tree's within doctor. Please understand this. I will have to do a lot of work to get to it and dang it I have done a lot of work already to get to it, if this is changed it may be months before i can use this skill, and I think latley I have been more then a casual player. I play like 4 hours each night. I don't try to uber grind and this change would just force me to do that and make things very boring. besides I can't make good res kits till I am master from what I have been told so it only gives you docs a really great way to make money. Once I am master doc I can make my own awsume ones. So master docs who like to sell meds you may just nerf yourself.

I think it was designed very intelligently and I really hope it doesn't get nerfed. These constant changes are really driving me nuts. I love this game.

no repsonces

I think the reason that folks wantrevive skillput up to master medic is because master medic is somewhat of a let-down. There aren't any new skills gained by a master and you don't get any additional experimentation points. Besides some new schematics, you just don't gain a lot for being a master medic than just having master wound treatment. I think that's why so many people want to see the revive skill moved up - to make Master Doctor a little more worthwhile.

Personally, I agree with both sides. I think the revive skill should stay where it is, but I think Master Doctor needs to have some more benefits. Perhaps a bonus to revive - lower sickness time or full heals with a revive (that may be just too powerful). Extra experimentation points.Master doctors need something to entice people to become master doctors.

For me, I'll get master doctor because I DO want those extra schematics. But that's because I'm more of a businessman than a doctor. I make items to sell on the marketmore often than I make them for my own use. But, as I'm not the average doc out there, I wouldn't use me as an example.

Those are my thoughts, though.

Starphire, in my experience, no response is usually a GOOD thing. It means people have nothing more to add to what you already said. Generally it means that folks probably agree with you, or at the very least do not disagree with you enough to want to refute you. So take no response as a positive response.

well if thats true, yay! haha that means somene agree's. I want to know I am not alone. I also agree master doc should have something special or a boost or more then it has currenlty. I mean hey, why not? I can't argue with giving MORE stuff!

Sorry, I don't agree. I feel that revive is very powerful and giving it out at anything less than master doc, belittles master doc. In general I feel that "tree-sampling" is a bad thing, and that players should at a minimum have to get master of tree to get the good skills, and master of a profession to get the truly elite ones.

This crap of a little here and a little there belittles the professions and makes for characters that have no focus and yet have the best of all worlds. My feeling is put enhance at the top of wound treatment, and put revive at master doc.

I have mixed feelings of this. I know novice Doctors climb the Wound Treatment Skill tree exclusively simply to get revive. This, in effect, belittles the Master Doc skill, and cheapens the value of the /revive skill overall. But I also see the arguments to leave it where it is.

Considering that the Ranger class just got some new skills, it is not out of the question that we, as Master Doctors, should get some new and exclusive skills. More powerful revives would be one, but a chance the heal mind damage would give the Master Doctor a skill that would be the envy of all *evil grin*

Dene

Starsider Master Doctor/Master Combat Medic

Offices on Tatooine and Naboo

Dene that is a simply wonderful idea! then they would leave revive wear it is and i would be happy haha!

Creating a better revive skill at master doc might be an option, but I dont see how it could be made better... unless you reduce or remove grogginess. However, mind healing will never happen. Or if it does, we won't be the ones to get it. Ask yourself this:

Who could beat a doc with a combat profession? He could spam every kind of special, and still be able to heal his mind and body to recover move costs and damage. Here is another question: What pool would mind heal drain?

It won't happen.. sorry. If we were to get another skill at master doc, I would like to see something like a skill and wound pack schematic that heals all wounds in one shot. That wouldn't sway the balance of things, and yet it would be very useful. Another idea along those lines is a skill/schematic that removes all states from a target. (blind, dizzy, stunned)

I don't agree, and it is not because I think rez should be master only (which I really don't) but because of what you said.

"...No one values me as a doc unless I can res, it's what all the big groups want...."

Do you mean in a group, doctor have nothing to offer that other medic/CM cannot offer beside rez? I am beginning to feel as if that is true, and I don't like it.

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IlyaMasool wrote:

"...No one values me as a doc unless I can res, it's what all the big groups want...."

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I don't really agree with that statement. I can't rez yet (another 30K XP to go) and my groups are always happy to have me along. The enhancement packs are nice and, with enhancement packs comes the need for bigger stims, which require a doctor's knowing use. And, of course, if you're in PvP, having a doctor around when you happen to run into that combat medic is wonderful luck. They'll kiss your boots all the way home.

Reviving people is a great thing to be able to do, but doctors are at their best if they can keep people from dying at all, so that they don't have to use revive.

Dabbling is fine to pick up decent lower level skills. I see no problem with that. But to pick up enhance with a couple of tier two skill boxes seems extreme to me.

As far as mind healing goes, I have posted before about healing mind by using more mind that you heal. That does seem reasonable to me. However a doc that can self mind heal would be wrong. Possibly in the future we might see an "elite elite" profession of doctor: Psychiatrist This profession might have mind healing. If they did, it should never be self-mindhealing. (Even psychiatrists see other psychiatrists!) To make sure things didn't get too out of balance a psychiatrist mind heal should probably cause some sort of delay or grogginess or other combat preventative measures. Call it the use of drugs or whatever. This would prevent someone from dealing out massive damage with specials and such while his mind got healed.

Who's in favor of a Psychiatrist elite elite profession?

Things should be left alone in this area. We don't want to start getting into everything that's good to require master. Master Docs already make the best buffs which is already reason enough as I see it to become master doc. I am not a master doc yet, I do have revives, but I want to become a master doc for thebuffs. That's only 2 more skill points in the end when all the other trees are done. If anything, maybe the buffs that master docs make should require a medic cabability so that only a master doc can use them. Big groups want docs with revive and we need lots of docs to fill out these groups so why require master? Also, docs have fellow docs as a customer for revive packs(although even master docs will be customers of other docs since sometimes just feel like buying instead of crafting). I don't know what groups you are in, but having someone to heal with Cs or petswith Ds or Es is #1, buffs and revives might fall around the same depending on what groups you have.