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Thread: Random Acts of Kindness

Munga_Meds
Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:20 am
#1

I know there is probably another thread I can reference... but I'd like to start a new one with new responses and additions.


Here aresome stories that stick with me:


I helped level up a tailor. Gave her encouragement, harvested materials for her, talked to her when she felt like quiting. Met her in a med center and got to talking. Added her to friends list and basically never saw her again after a few months. My priorities changed, hers did as well. Then one day, I get a /tell from here "where are you atm?" I tell her and we meet. She offers me a brand new crafters apron for 500k (going price was 7mil on my server) because she just made master tailor and had the schematic. I was floored. I was also pissed at the devs for not allowing wookiees to wear it, but hey. Sometimes the person you are nice to today will be nice to you tomorrow.


Through the months, I have worked my way up "the old fashioned way" in many med centers across the galaxy. In several, the "resident" doc got put on my friends list because they trained me, taught me tricks, gave me med droids, whatever it was, they got added. Recently, I sent out an email asking to form a co-op of doctors who share waypoints. I already had this with my guild and some very close friends, but I wanted to expand the reach of the program and include people who I don't email/tell on a daily basis. I send out a mass email stating my proposal. I get a few responses. Some people have moved on, some have changed focus. I get some free waypoints from some people, I give a few. I share some stuff I am hoarding, they do likewise. I even had one person give me several MILLION creds worth of subcomponents because he gave up the profession and needed the space in his house. Again, I was floored. I try and pass it on, but I find that if you are nice to people, they are nicer back to you. I always feel on the "greedy" side of the equation.


Because I am feeling greedy from the earlier subject/paragraph - today I see someone in Rori/Narmle. I forgot it was even a starter planet. He's walking around wounded, so I whip out the droid and heal him. He says "thanks" (GASP!) and asks me if I know where to get a good weapon. I check his bio, nada listed. A genuine noob. I ask him how much money he has, as the weaponsmith I want to recommend to him is on Dantooine, and he says "approx 1k". I restrain myself and don't laugh, but he busts out and says "that isn't enough, is it?". I tell him no.... then ask him to trade. I give him a speeder bike (the slow one) 15k for a decent weapon, and a free 2478x6 buff. He says simply WOW. He didn't even know about buffs. I told him the trick about storing your bike across server lines (to save him some cash) and told him to run some missions. I was doing dungeons with my guild so I had to go... but I got /tells ALL day long about how cool it was, and how godly he felt with buffs, and about how a torton finally killed him "... it was 3 stories tall!..." LOL I picked up some loot and met him later to rebuff him, answer questions, and give him some weapons until he could go shopping (loot weapons). End result is - someone helped me coming up as a Doc - and I felt good about helping this person.


Anyway - this whole "feel good" post is kinda my saying "pay it forward". We all know there are asshat customers. Take a chance on a player once in a while. I too only really deal with old friends and guildess these days, but something like the above 3 paragraphs can make it worth the $15 / month you pay to play.


If any of you need help on Flurry - send me an email. I'm feeling generous and willing to help noob docs. If you want to share Waypoints, I'm interested in that as well.


See you all ingame.

/mushystuffoff



Athera- Master Tailor
Talusian Haven, Talus, Kauri
Maximum_Overload
Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:53 pm
#2

Strangely enough, I read this after logging out inside the shop where I buy my Composite Armor, just outside of Correlia. When I logged back in and headed out this morning, I saw a Novice Brawler, in orignal clothes (even that god awful jacket) beating on a Vynock lair. So I examine. No Badges, no guild, one line bio. "He Might be President one day." Heh, I laughed. That's check one complete, he's new to this server even if he isn't a new player.

I say Hi and starting healing his damage. He says Thanks! Check Two Complete. He's polite and spells whole words.

So I break out the bot and give him a full set of buffs, a stack of my +390 Brandy, a Landspeeder, a 179max VK, and my old 75% Comp ChestPlate with an Encumb Slice.

He gushed thanks forever. All I asked in return was that one day, when he has just walked out from buying some half million dollar pre-sliced Composite and sees a newbie, that he help.



WTB: Rug In A TrashCan
EMC2
Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:14 pm
#3

Outstanding posts! I make a point to do random acts of kindness at least once a week, where I will even invest up to an hour in search of a new player to assist. Initially when I first started doing this, I thought punching a large tip was helpfull. I have learned (as many of you have likely learned as well) that what they really need is about a half hour of chat, an email of helpful waypoints, and about a one hour tour of some "how to do's" (either crafting, combat, or what not).


I'm so excited to see this type of post. I'm sure there are hundreds of other examples out there too.



FeartheLettuce
Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:20 pm
#4

i usually tip a 10ksih to genuine new people that are trying to do stuff for themselves and not begging for credits.... i will never give a single credit to a beggar....



Twigs
Ahazi

MBH/MC

"I'm sure this is "working as intended," at least until they get around to fixing it." -Spinmove5150
Roustabout
Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:33 pm
#5

I've given people everything from free buffs to weapons to 20k or more credits simply for 1. being new and 2. being civil and having genuine questions that don't constitute a whine. I figure that a few credits, to me, can be made up quickly but giving a newb directions to good shopping centers and a headstart may save him/her days upon days of work. Easily justified in my opinion.


I've also found that helping people out also nets returns that I haven't even though about. I've had people that I've helped and maintain a casual relationship with give me unexpected /tells with janta blood they've looted or items they've found...all for free simply because they have no use for it.


I agree with FeartheLettuce though, I will not ever give credits to someone who's just sitting around begging.


DarthXanthic
Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:44 am
#6

I had a lot of help when I first started as well, I believe its the reason I play the game still.


I was REALLY new, like maybe on for 30mins, and I was in the starport chilling in my mabriweave *shudder* and I started talking to this wookie (I so wish I remembered his name) and we get to talking about jedi.


He has me open up a trade window and promptly fills it with more pearls and crystals than I have ever seen (even now).


He then duels and accidentally DB's someone hahahaha.


Then as the shuttle lands he tips me 100k and asks me not to *spend it all in one place*.


I've done various things for genuine newbies; be it buying/giving equipment or clothes, tipping them so they can get a headstart, giving them some of my extra comp armor, lots of stuff.


As was stated: I can make back the credits a lot easier than a true noob just starting a profession.


I'll never forget this brand new image designer that I had change my hair once.


I think she had JUST mastered because she was shouting about making changed outside coronet.


Well I had her change my hair/color and it took probably like 30 seconds. I tipped her 25k.


When she got done she said "you can tip if you want, or can afford it, if not I understand".


I told her to scroll up and winked at her, then ran off.


I promptly got a tell, with an enthusiastic "your next change is on me".


Heh.


BrodieDGroix
Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:15 am
#7

I do this alot in my travels as well.Sometimes I'll get someone begging for credits and I'll give them 5k or so but if they keep at it it annoys me but usually if I see them I'll buff them up and give them some cash.But one time really struck me as funny I landed on Talus to do some hunting and this guy asks me to get him a ticket so he can meet a friend.First I was shocked his friend didn't do it for him but I said what the hey.So I ask him where he needs to go.And he starts getting mad and calling me a **edit** and a bunch of other not so nice names.It takes several minutes for it to sink into my thick skull to realize he's so new he doesn't understand the big wookie in front of him and thinks I'm playing with him.I finally have to give him a tell just to get him to group with me just to tach him languages.I give him 10k and his ticket then buff him up and send him on his way.He thourghly apologizes and promises to find a way to pay me back.It'll be cool to see if he does someday.I think its our responsibilty to help out the new players as best we can.Maybe thats just me but oh well I also don't approve of griefers.So that should let you know the type of person I am.Hell I won't even buff known griefers if I've heard of them.



Gwarrbacca


GuardianHawk
Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:46 am
#8

This threed is really great to see. And I would like to suggest that a way to sort out a newbie from a veteran begger is to talk to them. Try to start up a conversation and offer to help answer their questions or to give them advice on something. If this turns them hostile I tell them to get a life then a job. If they are actually newbies they are dieing for a little help, someone to walk them through how to make some progress or how the game works. If they can tollerate your "help" from talking then they also get tips or items from me, but only after the verbal "help".


One common thing in SWG is asking for tickets to get somewhere. When I am asked I offer to walk them through how to make the money themselves and stay with them while they do it to make sure they don't run into problems. We go to a terminal and do an in town delivery mission, or a simple hunt mission to pick up a little cash. It doesn't even have to be enough for the ticket, just so they know how to do it. Then after they go through the effort I tip them enough extra to buy a couple of tickets. I figured they earned it by doing the mission. When doing the mission I also don't actually help them in combat unless they get into trouble. Better to let them do it, and just talk them through it. But the tip of extra cash only comes after all the other stuff. Beggers won't put up with playing newbie that long, they are an impatient bunch and unwilling to lift a finger to help themselves.





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ZahrIna
Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:54 pm
#9






GuardianHawk wrote:

This threed is really great to see. And I would like to suggest that a way to sort out a newbie from a veteran begger is to talk to them. Try to start up a conversation and offer to help answer their questions or to give them advice on something. If this turns them hostile I tell them to get a life then a job. If they are actually newbies they are dieing for a little help, someone to walk them through how to make some progress or how the game works. If they can tollerate your "help" from talking then they also get tips or items from me, but only after the verbal "help".


One common thing in SWG is asking for tickets to get somewhere. When I am asked I offer to walk them through how to make the money themselves and stay with them while they do it to make sure they don't run into problems. We go to a terminal and do an in town delivery mission, or a simple hunt mission to pick up a little cash. It doesn't even have to be enough for the ticket, just so they know how to do it. Then after they go through the effort I tip them enough extra to buy a couple of tickets. I figured they earned it by doing the mission. When doing the mission I also don't actually help them in combat unless they get into trouble. Better to let them do it, and just talk them through it. But the tip of extra cash only comes after all the other stuff. Beggers won't put up with playing newbie that long, they are an impatient bunch and unwilling to lift a finger to help themselves.









That is so true. Any one who is really new, would be thrilled to have you walk them threw missioning and such.. to the point they would feel bad for taking your time. I tend to do the same myself, because I like killing nunas. You can tell a "professional newb" or a "fake newb" straight away with this approach. Example. I'm at the bazaar checking for some hide quick and a female avatar comes up in starter wear. She asks if I could help her buy some clothes. Sure I say, first you double click this red terminal. No no, I know how to do that.. I don't have enough for that stuff on there.. ok. So you need to learn how to do missions then; I'm starting to grin inside at this point. I can't do missions, she says, I dont have a weapon. Oh that's easy hun, you don't need a weapon, you can do delivery missions, come with me and I'll show you how. I then motion for her to follow. At this point I'm starting to laugh on my side of the screen. I can already feel her tensions building up. Then it hits. Look, are you going to help me get some clothes or not? Oh, do you mean am I going to give you money that I missioned to earn to buy your clothes with? A few seconds of silence.. followed by me.. you're funny.. welcome to ignore loser.


A truly new person's response is usually, you mean I can do missions and earn credits without a gun? Gosh yes, please show me how. Those I usually walk through how to do the delivery missions, make a new outfit for (or buff - depending which char I'm on) and tip a bit of traveling creds too. Usually I've got an extra swoop around too. I think it's the sincerity of it all that takes us back to our first day and it's honestly just kinda fun to see the response of disbelief when you give them all the stuff




Zahr'Ina :::: Formerly of Everquest~7th Hammer (4yrs), Everquest II~Steamfont (launch) and Starwars Galaxies~Eclipse (Launch). Choosing to ENJOY my playtime. :::: I wish nothing but happiness to all who remain. Ran out of patience: 6/15/05. Husband and wife team. Four accounts and two station passes, terminated.
CraigLowell
Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:58 pm
#10

Pay It Forward


That should be the way we all look at SWG. Not only for the doctor professions, but also the rest of us who have different templates.


I'm a relative newcomer to the Star Wars Galaxies MMORG. Seeing as I come from Singapore (in South East Asia), the lack of technical support and the time difference, meant that I had to think long and hard before actually purchasing the game. But I did, and with the newbie suit and a newbie CDEF and i think ONE healthpack (i took up Medic & Marksman) I started out in Mos Eisley


My first friend was a fellow called Reinei Biossk. I was looking around for something to do, when he took me under his wing. He gave me a decent laser rifle, some new threads and 1000 credits. To me that was a lot, as I had little or no money left. He then took me around to the rebel bases and introduced me to his friends. Another one of them, hearing that I was a newbie, gave me 5000 credits and a few stimpacks.


A week after that, I managed to hook up with a rebel guild called FLCL (yes its taken from the anime series). We were a small guild, and at that time I was only using Mabari Armor and Reinei's trusty laser rifle. Those guys were good to me. They gave me nearly 300 000 credits to purchase composite with, and they powerlevelled me up to master marksman and master medic within a week. They've never asked for anything in return, except that I stay loyal to the guild and try to contribute as much as I can.


As the weeks went by, I rose to 4th IC in the guild (4th fellow in charge). I was doing my first holocron then (MBH believe it or not), and at least I was earning some decent money. Along the way, I fell into a bit of luck (looted a couple of force crystals, and had a really good sale of Tat fiberplast) and so at least I was financially self sufficient. MBH made me a lot of money as well, but I got tired of it and switched to TKM/Master Doctor.


And yes, I do help Imperials as well, even though I have -5000 imperial faction.


I've never forgotten the help I've gotten. And well, I do my bit for the guild (as a doctor, I do come in handy during fights in the Geo Caves and Fort Tusken), and more than that, i do my bit for the rest of the newbies. I do go out of my way to help young ones, even if *shudder* they may be Imperials. I do fondly remember one incident where someone messaged me asking me if i wanted to purchase a Nabooian Medium House. I didn't really have plans for it, but I asked him how much it would cost. It turned out that he had spent all his money grinding architect, and that he was penniless. The Nabooian house was his last bit of property, and he was hoping to stay in it, but had to downgrade to something else. I gave him 50000 credits, and I was happy to do so. I make a fair bit on buffs, and to me, there are less fortunate people than I, so I try to help out as much as I can.


Pay it forward guys. We as doctors are lucky, and we should try to help those less fortunate than us.



Craig

Master Doctor / Teras Kasi Master\

Chilastra



CRAIG LOWELL
CHILASTRIAN MASTER TROLL / MASTER SPAMMER / MASTER EMO
PACE FEDERATION


"La morte è molto più preferibile ad una durata di sofferenza"


Markis
Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:49 pm
#11

this is nice thread to read.



Irodoko: Armorsmith
WobbleMin
Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:57 am
#12

Hiya Craig,


I am from Sengkang. Nice to hear another Singaporean playing.


I was into my 2nd week of play when an outgoing (leaving) character gave me all his pets, droids, full sets of ubese armours and 220k creds. Helped me a lot there and now my guildies chipped in often for me to buy buff packs. Now I sorta label myself Guild Buff Doc.


Wobble Min - Gorath


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Master Medic, Not a Master Doc, Not a Full-Fledged Scout, Not a Full-Fledged Brawler, Beginner Creature Handler

vortexala
Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:51 am
#13

Great Thread

I remember, at the beginning, how hard things were. Getting enough credits to learn a new skill from the npc because no one else was around who could teach it, splitting the cost of the skill with a fellow doc so that one of you could learn and then teach the other. Sampling for hours trying to get enough resources for the week, trading healing for resources to make more packs etc.

As I advanced, and became able to make the better meds, I started sharing what meds I had with the newer medics to help them along their path. Teaching them how to craft, how to heal, and usually giving out a F&C tool or two.

Once I finally hit Master Doctor, I decided to try and help up and coming medics even more. I'd drop my tag and head into a nearby medcenter after a night of hunting, usually with plenty of wounds to go around. I could have easily healed it myself, but I figured I'd give some xp to folks who needed it. Came across a couple Docs, one of whom finally made it to Master Surgeon and needed training. The two of them couldn't afford the cost of the NPC so, after they had finished healing me, I popped up the MD tag, trained her, gave her a handful of RezKits and around 10K. They both thanked me profusely, and it was really pretty cool.

I've also tried to help random folks and new comers with creds and weapons, but have yet to actually go the in-depth route and 'teach' them about the game(other then the medics back in the day). Think I'll try that next time



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