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Thread: Double buff Bug will lead to exploit, will lead to nerf

KIDD_CHAOS
Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:51 pm
#1

Hi All had sometthing very weird happening Fri evening 1-16-04 while buffing with a group of docs.


While buffing for a raid. I buffed a player who had just been buffed on the same stat. his Health on his HAM was at over 6000. we thought it was a mistake he was pulling our leg. So I had a doc buff me on my buff thinking it wouldn't work. bam I'm sitting with 5400 health.


Reported it as a bug, and am looking for someone else to duplicate. (i've had to go out of town so I can't get back in to test this further but I'm freaked out by it.) My buffs have been all over the board latley, could this be related? You know my fear here. Double buffs will lead to someone who will exploit them and thus start a whining campaign (RightfullyI dont want to fight against someone with 2 to god knows how many times this could be repeated on HAM buffs.) With That happening Poof "NERF BUFFS" will be the cry.


Here's the stats on what I could see as the game conditions this occured under.


All parties were Overt and declared.


All parties near a faction base


All buffs were D level


Doc's Buffing all used Med droid 110 rating


I had Med +30 clothing on not sure about other doc.


I'm not sure if the other player had died, prior to the buff, butI know I had died, cloned and buffed, before the second buff hit me.


As the Doc Community if we police ourselves here we can probably save ourselves from become the next exploit profession, and **edit** this in the bud.


I'll post more test results when I get back into town later in the week, but as i don't know 100% how it happened I though I'd open it to the board to test, and report the bug if you figure what part of the game mechanics triggered the bug.


If this is a known bug, then my bad for reposting....and someone please fix it hehe.


take care,


Pepa


Naritius

_Macabre_
Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:11 pm
#2

The player had *just* been buffed on that stat? Weird. I've only had this happen to me when the buffs on that stat are almost gone. I figured it was something to do with the time not tracking properly with planet hops or whatnot. It doesn't seem very reproducable, just on occasional thing that is not avoidable when using /heale without specifying a stat.



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Traigus
Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:35 pm
#3

I can't get this to happen.. but I haven't tried al lte details yet.

Anyone else get this to happen more then once?

-T



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KIDD_CHAOS
Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:09 pm
#4

Other thing.


it had been almost an hour between my buffs and 15 min between the guy I hit for the second buff and his first one.



pepa

zytecx
Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:48 am
#5

i happen to me last nite in areally laggy area, the person i was buffing told me i double buffed him, but i only it the hotkey once on each stats when im able to. I thought it was just due to the lag. only got the stats buffed message on each stats once.


will hae to keep track of it and if it happens again in a non lag area then i'll /bug it.




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KingLuka
Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:39 am
#6

I had this happen to me a few nights ago. I started the buffs in a camp, stopped after 3 stats for whatever reason. We shuttled into Theed. Outside the starport he asked me to finish up the buffs. Not paying attention I hit my health buff hotkey and next thing you know, he is yelling that his Health bar is over 5400. Just to see, I tried the other stats, but the Health was the only one it allowed me to Double Buff. Weird.


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Malovec
Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:16 am
#7

And you would report this why? Oh yeah I forgot it sucks to have as much ham as your pets right?



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IteIete
Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:01 am
#8

I was buffing myself at Mining Outpost on Dantoonie, would have been Friday also and after a buffing error on my part i managed to buff my constitution to over 6000 =/


Unable to submit a ticket as i already had one that had gone unanswered.


Ite Iete


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Songe
Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:14 am
#9

Yes, it's when you have lost some buffs and you still have one or two left that it happens. Happened to me yesterday as well.



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IteIete
Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:43 am
#10

Nope I managed to do this within a 30 second period of each buff =/



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DroidRacer
Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:50 pm
#11

Is this happening with the radial dial menu or only with the command line?
HealingHands
Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:38 pm
#12






_Macabre_ wrote:
The player had *just* been buffed on that stat? Weird. I've only had this happen to me when the buffs on that stat are almost gone. I figured it was something to do with the time not tracking properly with planet hops or whatnot. It doesn't seem very reproducable, just on occasional thing that is not avoidable when using /heale without specifying a stat.




I also double buff when the other stats are gone...ex. All the stats had just ran out and my action still remains. I rebuff all my other stats but Double my action to about 5100,.. then about 20 mins later when the old timer of the 1st action buff runs out I lose my 1st action buff but my 2nd action buffs remains.


Thats the only time I am able to do this. This can be done to all other stats when its about to end about 15 to 20 mins before you lose it you can double buff yourself but the when the timer of the first runs out you will lose it and the 2nd buff will remain.

PostingAsIntended
Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:40 pm
#13

FYI.. I always double-click the buff pack to buff my target. This bug has absolutely NEVER happened to anyone I buffed. I buff a whole heck of a lot. MANY times I get the 'this person already has an enhancement to this stat' type of message. On a few occations, the person claimed their buffs had already faded. On those people, the only thing that 'cleared' them for new buffs was to be killed and rezed. (I charge an extra 5k for bug clearing services on top of the 10k charge for buffs - gotta group with them, duel, db, rez, heal...bleh)


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