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Thread: GUIDE TO GRINDING FS SENSES
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Fremen_Feyadkin
Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:58 am
#1
This is the fastest way to grind FS senses xp and is the equivalent of "grenade grinding" FS combat or FS reflexes xp. To start off with you'll need about 15,000 rez kits, 13 hours worth of brandy and someone that doesnt mind dying alot. Here is the scenario: You and your friend run dueling macros and you kill/rez him. With the average rez getting 800 med xp and about 6 seconds between rezzes (time to incap, DB, rez) including the time it takes to convert the xp it'll take about 13 hours to grind a full FS senses tree if you're already a FS senses novice. You need to be standing right next to Paemos to convert because you will cap out in 5 mins and there is no way to completely macro the conversion. Following are the macros used. I called the Doc grinder "Killbot" and the victim "Deathbot."
*P.S. "/m" executes a macro
*P.P.S. I know there are some very childish people that will flame this thread, but those of you that can recognize this is a game and macros are part of the game, just ignore the flames.
Deathbot's macros
macro: death
/follow Killbot
/duel Killbot
/m death
Killbot's macros
macro: kill
/m brandy
/m duel
/m ph3
/m drag
/m coup
/m rez
/m convert
macro: brandy (this macro drinks brandy off your first 4 hoykeys, F1-F4)
/ui action toolbarSlot00
/ui action toolbarSlot01
/ui action toolbarSlot02
/ui action toolbarSlot03
/pause 60
/m brandy
macro: duel
/target Deathbot
/duel Deathbot
/m duel
macro: drag
/drag Deathbot
/m drag
macro: ph3 (any special attack will do. With a low HAM weapon buffs arent needed)
/target Deathbot
/polearmhit3
/m ph3
macro: coup (this is the deathblow macro)
/coupDeGrace Deathbot
/m coup
macro: rez
/reviveplayer Deathbot
/m rez
macro: convert (Due to lag, the macro "p" always executes for me even after the /dump command. Also, your attack speed and damage will affect how fast you cap out, so adjust the pause timer accordingly.)
/pause 280
/dump
/m p
macro: p
/conversationstart paemos
/pause 1
/ui action conversationResponse2
**EDIT: I have found that due to lag sometimes the macros will continue to run after the /dump command in Killbot's "convert" macro. Therefore, I have 3 macros hotkeyed to remedy this: "p", "kill", and "dump" (shown below). Hit "dump", then "p", then after the conversion "kill".
macro: dump
/dump
Message Edited by Fremen_Feyadkin on 01-20-2005 07:06 PM
Fremen_Feyadkin
Wed Jan 19, 2005 2:59 am
#2
This is the fastest way to grind FS senses xp and is the equivalent of "grenade grinding" FS combat or FS reflexes xp. To start off with you'll need about 15,000 rez kits, 13 hours worth of brandy and someone that doesnt mind dying alot. Here is the scenario: You and your friend run dueling macros and you kill/rez him. With the average rez getting 800 med xp and about 6 seconds between rezzes (time to incap, DB, rez) including the time it takes to convert the xp it'll take about 13 hours to grind a full FS senses tree if you're already a FS senses novice. You need to be standing right next to Paemos to convert because you will cap out in 5 mins and there is no way to completely macro the conversion. Following are the macros used. I called the Doc grinder "Killbot" and the victim "Deathbot."
*P.S. "/m" executes a macro
*P.P.S. I know there are some very childish people that will flame this thread, but those of you that can recognize this is a game and macros are part of the game, just ignore the flames.
Deathbot's macros
macro: death
/follow Killbot
/duel Killbot
/m death
Killbot's macros
macro: kill
/m brandy
/m duel
/m ph3
/m drag
/m coup
/m rez
/m convert
macro: brandy (this macro drinks brandy off your first 4 hoykeys, F1-F4)
/ui action toolbarSlot00
/ui action toolbarSlot01
/ui action toolbarSlot02
/ui action toolbarSlot03
/pause 60
/m brandy
macro: duel
/target Deathbot
/duel Deathbot
/m duel
macro: drag
/drag Deathbot
/m drag
macro: ph3 (any special attack will do. With a low HAM weapon buffs arent needed)
/target Deathbot
/polearmhit3
/m ph3
macro: coup (this is the deathblow macro)
/coupDeGrace Deathbot
/m coup
macro: rez
/reviveplayer Deathbot
/m rez
macro: convert (Due to lag, the macro "p" always executes for me even after the /dump command. Also, your attack speed and damage will affect how fast you cap out, so adjust the pause timer accordingly.)
/pause 280
/dump
/m p
macro: p
/conversationstart paemos
/pause 1
/ui action conversationResponse2
**EDIT: I have found that due to lag sometimes the macros will continue to run after the /dump command in Killbot's "convert" macro. Therefore, I have 3 macros hotkeyed to remedy this: "p", "kill", and "dump" (shown below). Hit "dump", then "p", then after the conversion "kill".
macro: dump
/dump
Message Edited by Fremen_Feyadkin on 01-29-2005 01:15 AM
Mosura
Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:27 am
#3
5*'s
Could you insert /peace; into the deathbot without killing the macro, or is there an option to turn off the auto attack?
Mosschops
Fremen_Feyadkin
Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:24 am
#6
Inserting /peace for Deathbot or Killbot would not work because of the constant spamming of the duel by both partiesand Killbot's constant attacking, howeverKillbot equipping a fishing pole for about 15 seconds every 5 mins is worth trying out. I'll give it a try and update the macros if it works.
Fremen_Feyadkin
Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:58 pm
#7
I couldn't find a fishing pole so i used a slitherhorn instead. Unfortunatly it won't work either way. WHen i hold the slitherhorn and spam polearm attacks I will go into combat mode even though I cannot attack for damage. Since you can't start a conversation with paemos while in combat it seems that no improvments can be made on the macro.
Gawzeera
Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:36 am
#8
this is'nt a flame or anything just simply a question, but would'nt this be considered and exploit?
not so long agao jedi were doing a similar thing to grind force xp and gain rank and alot of them were either banned or had they're rank set back to the lowest possible.
I only ask because i'm currently grinding up doc to help with the FS grind and as i would like to get there as quick as possible i would'nt like to have my account banned for exploiting.
Alysta
Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:18 am
#9
I too am concerned about seeing this "responded" to in a similar manner to the jedi incident. While this is great thinking - and alot of the fun of a game is to think outside the box of normal mundane play - and therefore become better at playing the game - it just seems like everytime someone does this within the context of gameplay, it gets responded to negatively as an "unfair advantage."
This is actually a good topic too - whether this should be considered unfair advantage or superior gameplay. I believe in the latter, since anything the game will let you do inside of it is the law of the universe at that time.Unfair Advantage I believe should be relegated to hacking.
If they want to change those laws in the future, very well, but don't pull ex post facto on us.
ShinjoKazuki
Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:24 pm
#10
Gawzeera wrote:this is'nt a flame or anything just simply a question, but would'nt this be considered and exploit?not so long agao jedi were doing a similar thing to grind force xp and gain rank and alot of them were either banned or had they're rank set back to the lowest possible.I only ask because i'm currently grinding up doc to help with the FS grind and as i would like to get there as quick as possible i would'nt like to have my account banned for exploiting.
well this is no different then afk'ing the geo cave or any other constant spawn, and jedi have gotten in trouble for it for different reasons, its more like the afk grinding ontop of a pa than the killing of friends..
Visnja
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:30 pm
#11
If you're going to do this, you shouldn't be AFK or be right next to Paemos.
I hate when I'm trying to talk to paemos and have a bunch of people fighting, deathblowing and rezzing right next to or onhim just because it's easier and faster to turn in your xp.You end up targeting them, instead .. find a hut like everyone else had to when all this started. Please.
Fremen_Feyadkin
Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:11 pm
#12
Re-read the post. You can't do this afk because you have to convert the xp every 5 mins and you can't completly macro the conversion. Peeps were using huts because your deathbot will start to slide away from you, butthe /drag macro fixes this problem along with the deathbot being on /follow. If you're having trouble targeting paemos, just do /tar paemos.
Visnja
Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:40 pm
#13
Ok .. well, let me put it a better way (I read it once and don't need to read the post again).. find a different place other than ON TOP of Paemos and a bit further out.
I'm not using this macro, the huts that I was speaking of were being usedfor HEALING using STIMS on the BRIA SERVER ... I posted because the people I've tried to speak with numerous times, have ignored my requests.
I already know how to /tar.
Go figure!
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