Doctor Archive
Thread: Balance Issues (Voting Closed)
i using this charecter to vote for kwisatz on the valcyn server.I cannot log into these boards for some reason.This is a copy of the game that my roomate and i share.
1.medical survey-It is needed for docs to produce meds.Think about it, docs have to spend time in school to master their profession.This is true for RL and the game.Not being able to walk through a field of wheat and not notice that it is wheat is just plain faulty logic.
2.master doc benifits-right now they are a joke.We need some upgrades here.
now for something that i would like added.A doctor has to take anatomy in school and preform surgery.We can use a knife and have knowlege of anatomy.Why can't we harvest animal resources?We have to pay hunters up to 30 cpu for good meat! And we get flammed when we ask for 15k-25k for a buff by the same players who rape us on meat prices.Or worse they expect us to run around and buff them for free.Please add this skill to the combat medic skill tree.Survey for docs and creature harvesting for CM.This should be a fair trade off between the two proffessions.
(Voting has now ended. Results will be posted later.)
1.Medical Surveying
2.Master Doc Benefits
3.On Fire Cure&
4.Faction Points
5.Medical Harvesting
6.Mind Damage Healing for Doctors
7.AoE Cure State Pack and Poison/Disease Cure
8.First Aid Improvements
9.Money
10.Pet Stimpacks
11.State Pack Persistence/Immunity
12.Medicine Use Skill Granularity
13.Pet Healing XP (or lack thereof)
14.Ease of Mastery
15.Crafting XP Speed Imbalance
16.Crafting XP from Complex Schematics –v- Components
Notes:
* - Denotes Issue has had some change or addition made to it since last posting.
+ - Denotes New Issue since the last posting. (These will always be at the bottom of the listing.)
= - Denotes Issue is listed by Devs as being fixed in either this publish or the next (generally, 4-8 weeks.)
% - Denotes some part of Issue will be fixed in either this publish or the next (generally. 4-8 weeks.)
& - Denotes an Issue acknowledged by the Developers that should be fixed at some undisclosed time in the future.
Please note that items listed as (*To be Fixed*) refer to the fact that the Devs have acknowledged the issue and expect that the issue will be fixed in either this publish coming up, or (more likely) the very next publish thereafter. In general this will probably mean a minimum of 2 weeks before such a fix will reach the Live servers but that it will more likely be closer to as much as an 8-10 week delay. Few of these items, if any, will rate a Hotfix so in order to ensure complete testing these kinds of delays are necessary. Be sure to check the date the statement was posted for a fix and add 8 weeks to it before considering if there is a problem with the fix not getting out. Please do not mistake the wording of a Dev that states “Fixed such-and-such” in these cases to mean that the item is actually fixed. It is simply a patch note method and the problem may not actually be fully fixed or even ready to go out in the next publish yet. Add the words “Will probably be” before that “Fixed” and you’ll have a better idea of how it should be read for now.
(*In Test*) refers to the next step where the issue has been placed onto Test Center for public testing. In general this means a 1 to 2 week test period before the issue will actually make it out to the Live Servers, presuming there are no undue problems. Again, please check the date of when the fix went to test before considering if there are any undue delays for getting the fix out.
(*Fixed*) Means the issue has been fixed and the fix is currently active on the Live servers. Items marked as Fixed will be removed from the very next issues listing if no further issues arise with the fix.
And for those who may not know but were curious, Ben “Marvelin” Hanson is the primary Medical Professions’ Developer (along with the other professions and coding projects that he also works on).
[Edit: fixed incorrect color and coding on Issues #6 & #8.)
Message Edited by Zarlor on 11-20-2003 11:27 AM
Message Edited by Zarlor on 12-01-2003 01:18 PM
1.Medical Surveying
Docs seem to feel the need to survey for their own resources and dislike the need to use skill points in Artisan in order to do so. Let's face it, anyone getting into the Doc level had to craft to get there, so the SWG version of a focused Doc is, in fact, a crafting profession and they want the abilities to self subsist in that capacity in the same way as Artisans do.
Since CHers seem to have been given the ability to heal pets without having to take Novice Medic to do so, and CMs have been given a basic scout skill in Terrain Negotiation, providing a partial form of /survey in the Doctor line would not too unreasonable according to many Docs. The other problem comes from the idea put forth previously by the Dev team that Doctors could always just buy their resource needs. However, Docs have many very specific resource needs (Dantooine Berries, Class 4 Liquid Petro Fuel, Avian Meat, Lokian Wild Wheat, etc.) that very few, if any, other professions, other than Medical Professions, truly need. Considering the prevalence of the Money issue for Docs, the market for surveyors to cater to the medic market is simply too small to be successful in comparison to what a surveyor could make catering to one of the artisan professions. In this way it could also be argued that rarely would Doctors be able to actually compete with Artisans on the resource market simply because their normal resource needs are not the needs of other professions. Worthwhile resources for any good medicines are just rarely found on the bazaar, unless that resource also overlaps with an artisan need, and then the price on such an item will be driven by the artisan ability to make far more profit on the item than the average medic pulls in.
Suggestions include providing survey only capabilities to increase with Organic Chemistry (the most common line for ALL of the Medical-based professions) or Pharmacology, much in the way it does for Artisan Surveying, but disallowing the sampling capability and perhaps with a smaller range. Others have noted that without some ability to sample (perhaps limiting Docs to only ever being able to sample 1 resource per sample tick, capping out resource samples so none are ever pulled up if there is more than our minimum, 8, or our maximum, I believe that’s 36, of a resources in inventory, or even just letting the survey tool show the resource values that only a Doc would use from those resources), to test the qualities of a resource if nothing else, the simple ability to survey alone wouldn’t be very useful. Suggestions have also included making the ability part of some kind of decayable survey tool made by artisans that let a Doc survey, ensuring a continued resource stream to artisans to compensate for those few Docs that try to make money as miners instead of as Docs. Or the use of a DE created resource seeker droid that might be able to locate a high concentration of a given resource within some given range and possibly provide either a single sample or at least some of the required stats for that resource, possibly even providing additional capabilities for those with the Artisan Survey skill.
For reference the following thread may be of interest:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=1540
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=5233
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14251
(*Dev Response:
Holo wrote in a thread on /medicalforage on 6/29/03:
“This here is a proposal to tackle JUST one aspect of that. It felt a bit like we got overwhelmed with the sheer number of ideas proposed for medics, so I want to present just two things (one of them based on suggestions from you guys during beta) so we can discuss them, before we move on to tackling other things.
OK, the first suggestion is this:
·Make medical foraging find small herbs/bacta globules/bugs/whatever (think: aloe and penicillin mold) that can be used to make medicines. Not resources, in other words. Because they are not resources, we do not need to worry about undercutting the surveyors and scouts.
·Make the A level stims and wound packs use ONLY these.
·Make higher level medicines use smaller amounts of these, so that profession interdependency increases as you go up.
This would make new medics trying to make medicines a lot better off, I think.
The second suggestion is based on beta tester ideas:
·Make tending use a small device. This device lasts a long time but does eventually break, and is made by artisans.
·Have it have charges.
·Each item that you can medical forage up gives it a charge.
·Take out the current wounding/battle fatigue effect of the /tend commands.
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=medic&message.id=192&highlight=#M192
Holo wrote presumably as a response to our initial Top 5 issues on 8/22/03:
“Healing tasks that aren’t making it in this update, but are on the list as high priorities:
…
·Investigate making /medicalforage more useful.”
Ref:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=394421
Holo wrote on 8/29/03: “We agree with many of the issues you raise, but most of them are not easy to fix. We'd rather fix medical forage than remove it, for example. The group bonus isn't that easy to do. And so on.” Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=443645#M443645
Ben “Marvelin” Hanson wrote on 9/30/03 on the Correspondent Forum:
“I don't want to make it like sampling since I feel that undermines the artisan skill tree. If as a medic you want something that works just like sampling, you should grab novice artisan. So the trick is, that it needs to be different from sampling but not more efficient than sampling for the artisan (I don't want /medicalForage to become a staple skill for non-medics). If you have some suggestions pass them along.
You can tell the players that this is on the radar for a complete revamp. I'd love to hear their ideas given the restrictions that I outlined above.”
Zarlor passed along the following summation from Ben “Marvelin” Hanson’s response on the Correspondent forum on 10/28/2003:
“The SOE team is leaning towards adding a whole new set of items and such (medicines, components, and component enhancements) that can be yanked from the ground, sort of like scout, but with items specifically useful to medics. No final decision has been made, yet, but that's what they are considering at the moment.”
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=17920 )
2.Master Doc Benefits
The benefits of being a Master Doctor seem like a bit of a letdown to some. Suggestions have included moving Resuscitation packs to that level for creation and/or use and/or raising the Med Use requirements on that pack, others feel doing so would be a nerf to non-Masters and suggest only working with additional content in this manner. Other suggestions include Inoculation packs for some form of immunity or resistance to various states. Point-Blank (Doctor centered) AoE state cures have been mentioned as well, as has the ability to harvest creatures at a low level of ability. Mind Stims, especially since Master Docs could care less about any way of exploiting something like this for XP (generally speaking.), consolidated wound packs (also look at the Inventory Issue) or a method to convert Med or Med Crafting XP at Master levels to Experimentation points (since there otherwise no need for that extra XP) or some other purchasable schematics/items.
For a sampling of the discussion see:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=7596
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=8075
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=10330
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14389
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14638
(*Dev Response:
Ben “Marvelin” Hanson wrote on 9/30/03 on the Correspondent Forum:
“I'm open to ability ideas for master doctor.”
[Z’s note: I have passed on the ideas already listed in the above issue, not to mention those in the threads noted above.]
Zarlor passed along the following summation from Ben “Marvelin” Hanson’s response on the Correspondent forum on 10/28/2003:
“They really like many of the ideas for extra doctor abilities in the threads we listed. In particular things like AOE cures, dot resistances, multi wound packs, etc. All seem pretty interesting to work with. They do agree that the doctor could use another reason or two to get the master box. This particular issue may take quite some time to get to and code in, however.”
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=17920 )
3.On Fire Cure&
(To Be Fixed)
The ability to cure the “On Fire!” state created by several attack forms has also been requested.
More information can be found in the following:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=13565
(*Dev response:
Zarlor passed along the following summation from Ben “Marvelin” Hanson’s response on the Correspondent forum on 10/28/2003:
“They do not have a problem with adding some fire dot removal. Fire dots can get nasty on Tatooine where there are only two places on the map to put them out. Again this may take some time to get into the game, but at least it is being looked into now.”
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=17920 )
4.Faction Points
Docs are interested in seeing a share of Faction Points in the same way that we are getting Combat XP. It is considered inappropriate that a medic professional would be out in the field and, being unable to assist in taking out an opposing faction NPC or player (because they are healing those who are doing so), they will not gain FPs and so will progress much more slowly in faction gains, while providing at least as valuable a service as the person providing the offensive capabilities. Other considerations have included gaining FPs for healing Overt faction members, especially considering the dangers involved in gaining a TEF in this manner in a place that is known for finding unsuspecting TEFed characters (i.e. The Med Center, see TEF Issues).
5.Medical Harvesting
Some Docs are having issue with wanting to have some form /harvest scout skill and our need for meat requirements. The situation tends to revolve around the idea that scouts will make far more profit from catering to the Hide/Bone needs of Artisans than they will from catering to Medics.
6.Mind Damage Healing for Doctors
Doctors would like to have the /mindheal command made available to them. Suggestions have included having it be a Doctor-only command, perhaps even only available at Master Doc. However there seems to be a bit more consensus (a polling would need o be done to ascertain the exact degrees of this) towards giving /mindheal to Master Medic to provide a little something extra for those reaching MM level, as well as then providing the capabilities to both Doctors and Combat Medics. In this way the command is at least closer to being as available as healing of the other Bars is to maintain the proper level of balance for the medical professions. Some have also suggested that the command might also be well served to also go to Entertainers and/or Squad Leaders. Others suggest that that command should only go to Entertainers or Squad Leaders. Some of the threads below will offer more insights into the various viewpoints.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=16728
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=17017
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=16865
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=18644
(*Dev Response:
Zarlor passed along the following summation from Ben “Marvelin” Hanson’s response on the Correspondent forum on 10/28/2003:
“It has been decided for now that mind healing is going to stay with Combat Medics. Combat medics have been in need of another unique healing ability, and they feel this fits the bill nicely.”
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=17920 )
7.AoE Cure State Pack and Poison/Disease Cure
It has been suggested that a counter is needed to the AoE poisons and diseases of CMs. An Area of Effect cure pack for each of those states would provide the proper counter. The argument could also be made for other states as well considering the AoE nature of some MOBs, such as a Kimogilla, that create those states on a group near them. Other suggestions to Poison/Disease counters include timers for how often a state can be applied to an individual, such as the new KD timers, or inoculation packs which would increase resistance to poison. Offering this skill to CMs instead, has also been suggested.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=6476
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=6618
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=10727
8.First Aid Improvements
There is some concern that the new First Aid improvements may not be enough. Some Doctors feel that First Aid should improve further as they move up in the Doctor Profession. Suggestions would be that by Master Doctor a Doctor should be able to completely remove a Bleed State in a single application of First Aid.
9.Money
This topic comes up very frequently on the Medic threads, but just as frequently, if not more so, on the Doctor forums. There is a lot of concern about how a focused medical character should be able to make money. By this I mean that we are talking about a character whose primary skills and interests are in the healing arts (which could include crafting of meds, for the Pharmaceutically inclined Docs) and not, necessarily, combat or resource management. The self-sufficiency of the profession does not really exist except in a few small methods, of which the primary one for making money IN the profession would seem to be the production and sales of Small Stimpack Bs with some income coming from the sale of the service of enhancing stats (not nearly as useful an income source until Master Doc is reached). There is a much smaller niche market for medical resources and components, but most Doctors seem to feel that resource gathering and sales, while obviously an integral part of the Doctor profession, is more of the realm of the artisan and such sales would be, in effect, making money as an Artisan, and not as a Doctor. Overall these markets are really on fully viable once Master, or at least Level 4 Doc Crafting, is reached.
The other methods of making money seem to be far less reliable, or are not well supported by the game. Tips for Doctors and Medics seems to be a small market except in a few locations or servers and medical professionals are often subjected to all manner of verbal abuse for suggesting payment should be made for the service. Primarily, for those interested in providing services such as Healing or Enhancing, there is no secure method of trade to ensure that the Doctor is paid for their service while also ensuring that the customer gets the service they are requesting.
Suggestions have included some form of secure trade window, like is done for normal trading, or having a Doctor’s healing actually use packs that the customer has on their person instead of the ones on the Doctor (and thereby the Doctor could sell the medicine to the player and then heal him with those), requiring or allowing some form of insurance, possibly whereby either the patients set a price they are willing to pay for healing that will be deducted from them if their healer accepts that rate or the Doctor sets a price they will heal for allowing the patient to accept, allowing A packs or stims only to be usable by anyone thereby opening the market for more pharmaceutical products that Doctors or Medics could then sell (for those who are more crafting oriented, although it should be noted that some recent controversy is beginning to surface over this idea, thread is listed below- Doc #11491 & Medic #6938.) Having Doc-specific missions, like the artisan or entertainer missions. Giving Doctors some sort of Vendor ability to encourage pharmaceutical sales. Paying Docs some rate simply for manning a place where they can /register. Some of the threads below show some of the solutions suggested in greater detail.
Again there is no true consensus on the issue other than that most of the Medic classes tend to rely on other methods of subsistence and take time doing those things that they may not be interested in or may not be fun for them (the usual, delivery/destroy missions, for example.) The issue is an important one amongst the player base and receives a lot of attention on the forums and in game from many of the medics and Doctors I have spoken with.
Of notable reference are the following threads:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=1768
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=1197
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=1650
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=6196
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=10665
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=11491
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=medic&message.id=6938
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14194
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14257
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14012
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=14888
(*Dev Response:
Ood Bnar wrote on 9/24/03 in a thread about Image Designer UI issues:
“We talked about adding a payment option, but this gets into the bigger 'payment for services rendered' issue which I will leave to the designers. They are working on the problem now.”
[Z’s note: This may or may not imply anything, but it seems that there maybe some consideration being given for some methods of handling payments for services universally, if possible, opening part of this issue to a possible need for a wider solution which may provide assistance on this issues as well as for other service-related sales.]
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=image_designer&message.id=2796)
10.Pet Stimpacks
Some Docs are incensed about the idea of giving pet stimpacks to anyone for healing Pets. (Not at the BE’s for making these packs, but that anyone can use them.) Something that was previously the purview of the medic classes. Letting some other class utilize stimpacks, even if it’s just for pets, seems like a slap in the face by giving anyone the ability to use an item that is otherwise exclusive to Novice Medic, when an integral skill required for Medics, Surveying, won’t even be considered for Medics because it would somehow interfere with Artisans (who already have far greater financial stability than the medical professions). Not to mention the ability of these new stims to heal mind damage on the fly when no other class in the game has this ability for use on player characters. Some clarification on the reasoning for this issue or some other form of compensation such as mind healing, a certificate system allowing Pet Stim A use by anyone, but higher levels only to be used by BEs and/or CHs, the removal of the mind heal component of the stim, removal of pet stimpacks altogether has been suggested.
11.State Pack Persistence/Immunity
Docs are wondering if it would be possible to get some level of persistence in Cure packs for States, Poisons and/or Diseases. The states appear to be regained upon the very next hit by a MOB or player. For example, why unblind someone when they are just going to get blinded again before they can even get their own attack off. Some persistence in the state cure packs would provide some level of immunity to being afflicted with the state again immediately. Another possibility would be that state cures offer a temporary increase in resistance against that state.
It should also be noted that many states do not seem to have some very obvious effects and with the timer-related errors involved in state pack usage, few Doctors, or their patients for that matter, bother with State healing, apparently. Considering the defense bonuses now being fully applied to moving characters, getting to a character to apply a state cure is even more difficult (because they keep moving around in order to avoid being hit.) Clarification on the effects of various states, review of their effectiveness and review of their persistence on healing would be welcome.
Some discussions can be found at the following:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=combat_medic&message.id=10613
12.Medicine Use Skill Granularity
Many would like to see more granularity in the base Medicine Use levels for different meds, to encourage balanced increases in the Medicine Use skill. Possibly even reducing some medicine use levels so that Medics can use some Doctor created items, while others could be made more difficult to encourage purchasing of the usage skill levels.
Some discussion on the topic can be found in the following threads:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=646964
13.Pet Healing XP (or lack thereof)
The removal of Pet Healing XP has several Doctors a bit upset. Overall there seems to be some consensus that Pets are primarily being used as the main tank for a party instead of any standard PC class. As such there is now no method for gaining XP from healing the party tank since that tank will almost never be a PC.
Suggested solutions include singly or in some combination such ideas as giving no XP for ones own pets, but allowing full XP on other’s pets, providing reduced XP for any pet healing, capping the XP allowed to be provided from a pet on either a per heal or per combat session basis. Several other responses and suggestions may be found in Q3P0’s post regarding this subject below (#429220).
(*Dev response:
Q3P0 wrote on 8/27/03:
“We’ve been tracking your discussions regarding the recent change to remove XP from healing pets. This post is to explain why we did the change and to let you know what we are thinking of for the future (based on some of your suggestions).
The exploit was a person could sick their pet on a creature that it cannot kill but does a decent amount of damage, sit behind the pet and heal it over and over and gain experience 10x faster than normal. Our solution was to eliminate XP for healing pets.
You’ve brought up great points about this and we are reconsidering how best to handle the exploit. Assuming you agree that the above exploit is valid. How about healing your own pet gives no medical XP (just like healing yourself)? Healing someone else’s pet given less XP than healing another player but still gives some. This will make healers still valuable in groups with tank pets, but won’t allow you to gain XP faster than you would with players.
If we go with this, it will take several days to code and probably some decent time on Test Center to test.”
Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=429220
Holo wrote on 8/29/03: “Med XP from healing pets was seen as an exploit because of the hugely high rates of gain it provided. Do you guys not see it that way or agree?” Ref: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Development&message.id=443645#M443645
[Z’s note: The testing time would likely force such an update into the November Publish at the earliest. No word yet on when that publish way be scheduled for, but it will certainly hit Test Center first and I will update you all then if it was able to make it. If not then they MIGHT Hotfix Patch it in, but more likely it would get held off until December Publish. That’s assuming they even go with Q’s suggestions above at all.])
14.Ease of Mastery
Some have also suggested that perhaps Doctor is simply too easy to Master. I am still uncertain whether this is intended or not and whether or not it is really balanced enough compared to possible speed of gain rates for other professions. It may be a situation where, as Holocron has told us before, the game simply does not start until you completely allocate all of your skill points and that philosophy being somewhat counterintuitive to how many other MMORPGs are played. Or if this is truly a valid concern that having Master Doctors within their time frame is unbalancing to the game. Perhaps guidance of the Dev thinking on the issue is needed, or the rate of gain should be adjusted. The crafting requirements will definitely need to be more balanced, however, in most players’ experience, some suggesting either making it easier, or making the rest of the line harder or somewhere in between.
15.Crafting XP Speed Imbalance
Docs are feeling a bit hampered by the crafting requirements of the class. While there are a few who simply do not like crafting at all, many seem to feel that crafting is acceptable, but only if it improves on par with use. An example pointed out on the forums was that a Stim E will often heal for 1500-2500, or about 600-700 Medical XP a heal. That 1 stim E provides about 500 Crafting XP. Since there are 41 charges on a stim E that means a difference of 41*700=28,700 Medical XP, as compared to that 1 stim providing only 500 Crafting XP. A ratio of 57:1 instead of the 3:1 that would be expected for proper scaling of raising the skills evenly. (Actually it has been noted that those numbers are probably a bit off, but the ratio is still approximately valid). Admittedly compared to the time it takes to use those charges enough stims could be made to equalize that ratio, but it is requested that the metrics be looked at again, especially now that Factory XP is back to where it should have been (well, if it is supposed to be at 10%, even though factories are not giving even that now, but that I listed as a separate issue) and that self UXP in components has been fixed and also keeping in mind that there are folks who are just grinding the meds for these lines to catch it up to their other med levels.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=1383
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=doctor&message.id=2020
16.Crafting XP from Complex Schematics –v- Components
Despite the complexity of completed meds, such as stim or wound packs, these provide less XP, relatively, than grinding out components.
[Edit: Fixed wording on Issue #11 to include Poison/Disease.]
Message Edited by Zarlor on 11-20-2003 12:31 PM
Wow, you get an edit button Zarlor ![]()
Anyway, my vote is:
1,6,9,3,2
Keep up the good work!
I would have to vote in order 4, 1, 2 currently!
Nice work putting that all together
- 4
- 1
- 2
- 5
- 9
- 6
- 10
- 14
- 11
- 12
Please ignore previous post, Icouldn't figure out how to edit it ![]()
Thank you.
Yep, i got an edit button. The finally decided that since the Correspondents maintain som darned many lists that we pretty much needed it. So I think we have it on a trial basis unless one of us decides to abuse the priviledge or something.
Morai: Don't wory about the previous posting. Any later posting by any particular ID will overwrite any previous votes from that account.
So It's all good.
2) 9 Money
3) 2 Master Doc Benefits
4) 4 Faction Points
5) 11 State Pack Persistence/Immunity
Comments -------------------
Issue 5: This seems to happen with poisons and diseases as well. This may be related to the latest patch which claims to have added poison and disease attacks to more MOBs.