Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
YornCM
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:14 am
#846
"Meshing the live service with JTL is a big challenge since it means it will be the first time anyone has ever integrated a complete RPG and action Space game before."
I think this is the most telling quote of all. JTL is not going to be a flawless release. Historical? Yes. Playable? We'll see. I willbuy JTL, but like many others in this thread, I would rather you fix combat before sending us into space. I've spent a year on the ground and six more months isn't gonna hurt me. Heck, at least weno longerhave to run everywhere.
Kharn_JB
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:15 am
#847
Sivol wrote:This thread just brings out the hate in everyone. People who usually never flame are joining in on the fun.
With good reason it seems. The masses don't like this decision, and people are quitting over it. SOE better open their eyes.
SithCetra
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:17 am
#849
Good thing to keep us up to date TH, thanks.
Personnaly i can't wait for JTL, i am very excited. I will wait combat balance and GCW publishes with my TIE fighter, and it will be very cool
I don't understand why people is complaining about jedi publishes. 6 months ago, the forum was plagued of threads such as "Hologrind is killing swg" or "20 prof i cancel" or "Devs have made swg hologrind-land" So devs have decided to fix that, before others changes on schedule, because of the frenzy of people. Now that hologrind is nearly finished, we heard the voice of people who wanted a GCW and CB change NOW. I am disapointed, devs cannot split up, and the dev-team is not complete. They don't have 33 fingers and 4 brains. They need time... "Rome was not builded in one day". Patience every one, if your are bored of the game, try another prof (other than the ubber, buffed TKA-swordman) try to play the game, talk to NPC, visit planets, make groups with people (other than solo-group) and hunt with a beginner template... Or leave the game... Stop complaining, devs are reading these boards (too much i think) and they are keeping us informed.
Have faith and enjoy
Personnaly i can't wait for JTL, i am very excited. I will wait combat balance and GCW publishes with my TIE fighter, and it will be very cool
I don't understand why people is complaining about jedi publishes. 6 months ago, the forum was plagued of threads such as "Hologrind is killing swg" or "20 prof i cancel" or "Devs have made swg hologrind-land" So devs have decided to fix that, before others changes on schedule, because of the frenzy of people. Now that hologrind is nearly finished, we heard the voice of people who wanted a GCW and CB change NOW. I am disapointed, devs cannot split up, and the dev-team is not complete. They don't have 33 fingers and 4 brains. They need time... "Rome was not builded in one day". Patience every one, if your are bored of the game, try another prof (other than the ubber, buffed TKA-swordman) try to play the game, talk to NPC, visit planets, make groups with people (other than solo-group) and hunt with a beginner template... Or leave the game... Stop complaining, devs are reading these boards (too much i think) and they are keeping us informed.
Have faith and enjoy
Aracon
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:20 am
#850
I pratically turned into Will Smith after reading this thread.
First I was all like "AW HELL NAW!"
Then I'm like "TH, these people don't want this--IS DAT REGISTERIN WIT YOU?!"
I'm sure tomorrow when the Devs are bombarded they'll shout "GET OFF MY CAR!!!".
Syraxen
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:21 am
#851
Hi TH, i know considering the size of this thread and how long its been up that your probbably not reading anymore but i willtry anyway
First of all I would like to say that unlike alot of people I am happy with the proposed changes to the game and the job all you guys are doing lately, please dont let the whiners get you down too much. Secondly i have a little question, in a post about the timeline you said:
The development cycle still has momentum and we still have some other important items, big and small, coming out of the pipeline.Here is what still lies ahead:
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Before publish 10, we plan on launching the character transfer system -
In Publish 9.2 We’re publishing Wookiee armor sets #2 and #3, new crafting quests and the second swoop race -
Publish 9.3 will bring us the third swoop race -
Publish 10 will be the Jedi Trials.This will be the new gateway to the Jedi profession that will by a mysterious path to unlocking Force sensitivity. -
Publish 10.1 is going to bring us an exciting surprise and also a list of Correspondent requests -
Publish 10.2 is focused on the entertainers which features a unique new game experience where entertainers, Dancers and Musicians can perform for an NPC audience for the reward of a new song and dance.
Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager
Time Lines are a great visual aid andI was wondering if you could expand this just a little to add where in the timeline these things would be:- JTLbeta, JTL full release, Combat balance.
Do they all just follow 10.2? Also adding estimated dates to them would be nice, like for example
Publish 10.1 is going to bring us an exciting surprise and also a list of Correspondent requests (September)
Or something like that
Xtremality
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:24 am
#852
haha!! I knew this would happen!
Thats why I quit a month ago. I suggest everyone do the same! SOE should hand this project over to Blizzard, I bet they candevelop a better MMO. "Oh wait, they already are." World of Warcraft , here we come!!
Thats why I quit a month ago. I suggest everyone do the same! SOE should hand this project over to Blizzard, I bet they candevelop a better MMO. "Oh wait, they already are." World of Warcraft , here we come!!
TivoTenook
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:26 am
#853
i love how the guy who wrote in all green on page 32 asks us if we think we are accomplishing anything by venting to TH on that thread and stating our obvious majority opinion. and yet i ask him what he thinks to accomplish by trying to degrade us? its a continuous cycle of man vs man. a power struggle. politics, economics, greed, and war. and in a way hes right, because this will never create a resolution. but you know what, doing nothing doesnt either.
Obi-6
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:26 am
#854
Seriously everyone, did you honestly expect SOE to do anything different then they have since post Luclin with EQ?
Let me tell you how SOE works. They take your subscription, put it towards an expansion, then charge you for the expansion while putting as little as possible into fixing the main game that has been terribly broken for a while. Everything revolves around money, they are unethical, immoral, and even the two most recent CEO's were quoted as saying "The only input we want from our customers in a credit card number"
The only way things will EVER change with SOE is when the money stops rolling in. Period.
If you think this same exact BS will not happen with EQ 2 you are surely mistaken. I find it hilarious that World of Warcraft at the moment is running with more content SWG probably will ever have in the next year (even WITH the expansion) 6 months pre-retail with server stability SWG will NEVER have in the life of it's game. Why? It's being created by people that not only are sick of the way companies like SOE operate in the MMORPG genre, but also because of a quality staff who actually play their own game.
That's right folks. Before Koster was promoted out, he basically had to plead with half the designers to play their own damn game. I do have the quote saved.
You know the funny thing is, if you hit those cancel buttons, watch them crap their collective pants and see just how fast things get changed so they get their money again. But this blind faith in this company HAS to stop.
Period.
Gavvot
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:29 am
#855
I'll be happy when JTL is finished.
Not because I'm waiting for it.
Because that extention has done a very very big damage to what could have been a great game.
Sad, but true.
So finish it faster, and focus on bug fix only on live.
The sooner this piece is away the better it'll be.
Not because I'm waiting for it.
Because that extention has done a very very big damage to what could have been a great game.
Sad, but true.
So finish it faster, and focus on bug fix only on live.
The sooner this piece is away the better it'll be.
Jasnyx
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:33 am
#856
"SWG the finest MMORPG ever"
TH, you are either a horrible liar, or king newb of the MMORPG world,which is it?
Xtremality
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:34 am
#857
/agree 100%
Blizzard is one heck of a company IMHO. They have never let me down and im positive World Of Warcraft wont either.
FOR KAl-thuzad!!!!
Tomper
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:39 am
#858
I can do nothing but join the choire, this is awful news. The Combat Revamp should be priority #1, and the unwanted Jedi should be pushed down. Everyone is looking forward to JTL, but the core game is pretty much useless now. No point what so ever in doing PvP, and even PvE in dungeons and against mobs is getting really really boring with the buffs and the armor and everything. Bleh. 
I'll have to think about whether to keep playing or not.